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northface
post Apr 1 2012, 10:42 AM

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Lots of misconceptions here , first of all you need to know what the Bretton Woods system is. In 1971 the Bretton woods system was ended officially ended by the US and hence the end of the gold standard. Before that, you could walk into an US bank and convert your dollar into gold.

Nowadays the greenback technically has no intrinsic value because so much dollar is in circulation compared to their gold storage in Fort knox. Ppl will ask why US dollar still so strong then, there are a lot of reasons but the major ones are being the USA has been a world power for the past 100 years most ppl see the dollar as a safe haven to store their assets although. Every pension fund in the world has some sort of exposure to USA treasuries, therefore the demand is there for the dollar.

When you buy treasuries you are lending the USA your precious money. Look at China's communist government for the past decades keep on investing in US treasuries. But since the US dollar keep on depreciating, after interest on their treasury investments they still losing 'real' value on their investment.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/20...ow-big-who-owns

For Malaysia, our currency/sovereign certainly does not contain demand anywhere close to what the dollar commands in the international market. Our central bank can definitely keep printing money but then our currency will depreciate quickly. You will see increasing food prices, house prices etc because so much currency is in circulation.

Lately, there's been talk of our debt approaching 55% limit set by our constitution but the UMNO minister say no problem 2% more still far away!! If you travel a lot and go to other countries, you will find food prices in country like Singapore and Taiwan are cheaper than Malaysia although their GDP per capita is higher than us. This just shows you how uncontrolled spending and money printing creates inflationary economy.

Just look at Ah Jib gor, election near go every kampung and hand out money and promises for more $$. Where the money come from?? Surely our tax $$ already used up breeding cows, so the government issues sovereign bonds on the international market to borrow $$ to use.
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post Apr 1 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Apr 1 2012, 02:04 PM)
Isingapore gov debt already reached 96%
First of all, you need to look at debt in the context of foreign & local debt. Singapore is very special in a sense that most of its government debt are owned by CPF, which is EPF in Singapore terms, they have virtually ZERO foreign debt. Using these debt, Singapore government companies like Temasek and GIC have for years generated outstanding returns on their debt. And that money will flow back to their retirees, benefiting their people.

And don't kid yourself Singapore's sovereign debt rating is AAA, the government has not sold bonds on an international market to raise funds since 20+ years ago. To argue that Malaysia's debt standing is actually better that Singapore just shows how myopic you are, really. cool2.gif

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Added on April 1, 2012, 2:29 pmBtw
I don't agree on always compare "inflation" with singapore wan,why?
Let take example of 1 basic food
Example an egg distributor selling to retail shop in malaysia at RM3.50per pack(10 omega eggs),then retail shop sell to end-consumer here also in malaysia  at RM4.50

So should the same egg distributior  export the same egg pack to retailers at Singapore at SGD3.50(RM9.25)??? and singapore retailers should sell it to singapore consumer at at SGD4.50(RM11.25)????
Or is it standard practice to sell the 10-egg pack at perhaps SGD2.50(RM6.25) or even SGD2(RM5),right?

Can see the figure?its seems cheap by SGD value but it already give more  profits to the malaysian egg distributor

Many people are getting the illusion of singapore's "low inflation" eventhough its not,since cannot compare RM and SGD wan,due to many of their food necessities also imported from Malaysia,and many of food price follows the malaysia"s production-costs,not singapore production-cost

Try to challenge the singaporean to produce their own omega eggs and see how much it costs
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Do you even know what you are talking about? Your example is poor at best, but I roughly get your idea.

In economics we can price something in the nominal or real terms. For your egg example, selling for MYR5 or SGD2.5 does not really matter, because surely you can compare food prices in real terms. You can convert price in Sin dollar into RM using today's exchange rate and compare which is higher. If something that sell for RM5, which is SGD2 retails for SGD1 in Singapore, is it not cheaper? So a country that has higher per capita GDP, but yet food prices in REAL TERMS are cheaper than Malaysia, do you NOT see what the problem is?? If you still don't understand, go enroll in a basic economics class.
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post Apr 1 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Apr 1 2012, 05:27 PM)
u the one already failed,not me
basic economics class dont tech the comparison i just quoted
sorry kid,u got much to learn


Added on April 1, 2012, 5:30 pm& this why singapore imported much of their food  especialy from malaysia
coz to produce their own food,the costs wil be much higher & directly will skyrocketing their basic necessity expenses,& directly will make overall expenses there much higher
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Wow you are officially an idiot, ok you have no argument whatsoever so you call me a kid, rofl. rclxm9.gif

Singapore has no incentive to produce food themselves, their service industry fetches higher profits so they can buy cheap food from Malaysia. Malaysia cannot come up with the same level of services so have to resort to lower $$ making industries.

Does this simple concept get through to your seemingly obtuse mind? And btw, get a dictionary and learn how to type.
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post Apr 1 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(legiwei @ Apr 1 2012, 07:46 PM)
Most of Malaysia's debt are also funded locally too, so shouldn't we also deserve the AAA rating too and going by your logic? smile.gif And, it has an even lower debt in comparison in to Singapore, so shouldn't we be better than them? laugh.gif
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Perhaps you should read this.
http://www.indexmundi.com/malaysia/debt_external.html
http://www.indexmundi.com/singapore/debt_external.html

Furthermore, ratings on sovereign debt does not cover debt only if that's the case USA would be junk status. Just compare our GLCs Khazanah/PNB to Singapore's Temasek/GIC, and which one does better with taxpayers money? You tell me .... brows.gif

 

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