firmware can update before or after installing the driver.. u need to follow the instruction by pressing left click right click and middle button simultaneously first and hold it before u insert usb...

still lost........ is there like a vid or guide?

LOL!
Razer newbie..
^^
Reminded me when i 1st updated my orochi firmware..
Took me 20 minutes 2 figure it out myself..
>.<
Btw, sum1 said abyssus is nt a mouse 4 right handed ppl..
Mind helping me correct this awfully wrong statement?

LOL!
Btw, sum1 said abyssus is nt a mouse 4 right handed ppl..
Mind helping me correct this awfully wrong statement?

DA rite? haha...mayb its because the type of sensor? haha, dunno i simply say wan xD

Yea la..
Abyssus not 4 right handed people..
then Razer created a special mouse 2 discriminate right handed users la?
Maybe the person read not enough....
Swt..
most gamers n users r right handed newayz..
He's using Xai la Micheal..
XD

I understand u fine lol..
And u get me wrong..
I said why would razer create a mouse 4 lefthander ppl only?
Swt..
I said it is ambidextrous lol..
I brought up this topic because sum1 said abyssus is nt a mouse 4 right handed people....
So, i was trying 2 state the obvious that abyssus is a mouse 4 right and left hander too..
>.<
And i was pondering y would they create a mouse 4 left hander ppl only if such exist..
U misinterpreted me >.<

Oh, cool. Thanks. It certainly eases my dilemma in choosing between these 3 new additions. Think I'm gonna choose between the Deathadder Refresh and the Imperator.

hmmm, nth wrong for choosing different type of sensor mouse.. its not big deal. ppl buy razer mouse is mainly for gaming... thats the main purpose of the mouse and of coz he wants to buy that mouse mayb not only becoz of gaming, its becoz he loves razer just like any other razer fans.. he cant choose between those two mouse not becoz of sensor or purpose, its becoz he likes both of them, da and imperator. so, there's no purpose or type of sensor like u said that is bothering him to make his choice..

Sorry, I'm not here to insult Razer fans, but to be frank, AVF pawned Razer.

Razer is way overrated.

swtz... don be so cheapskate ma.. =( liddat no meaning liaw lo.. u still don get to feel razer yet.. =.=" go save money on foods and stuffs, then buy one real razer mouse no regret one i tell u .

wait la, im sure a newer CH like mouse will come out.
and it better come out

Yeash..

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Added on December 30, 2009, 5:08 pmTo all Razer Fan here, Ban Leong might have a rep here to help you if your Razer have any problem or inquiry~~"

He/She might not post here but rest assured he/she is reading this thread xD

Cheers..

May this new year bring more cheaper Razer mouse so I cn complete my collection at lower price..

xD

Shout like mad here..

He would or might reply..

Or u can ask me 2 help u ask..

xD

Anyone mind clarifying is the Razer Deathadder (The latest one with the 3G sensor) an optical, laser or Infrared mouse? Some sources I read mention that Laser and Infrared are the same thing in mice so I assume it must be a laser mice however many retailers list it as an optical mouse with a better optical sensor with the enhanced technology made by Razer.

Another thing I quite baffling is that some people in gaming communities seem to argue that optical sensor based mice are superior to Laser based one. But most technical site and even gaming peripheral manufacturers seems to point otherwise.

laser sensor produce less heat compared to the infrared sensor. thats my experience with the difference between 3g infrared and 3.5g laser sensor.
as for laser sensor, even the vibration of my phone will affect my mouse.

laser sensor produce less heat compared to the infrared sensor. thats my experience with the difference between 3g infrared and 3.5g laser sensor.
as for laser sensor, even the vibration of my phone will affect my mouse.

Thats why I asked the question. I had earlier, already read from Razer's official site but it still does not explain what are Infrared sensor mouse, are they enhanced sensor based on either Optical or Laser sensor? or just an entirely new sensor technology used on mice altogether? because this is the first time I ever encounter a Infrared gaming mouse. You could say I'm really curious. 
From what I recall, Optical mice utilize light to detect movement. The light is produced by a light emitting diode (LED). What happens when you operate an optical mouse is that the mouse itself uses that light to take "pictures" (similar to image sensors in cameras and similar imaging devices) of whatever it is "sitting on". It then tracks the location of the pointer on the screen based on the current position of the new image comparing it to the old one.

As for Laser mice, they produce beams that are much more concentrated and narrow with a higher frequency than that of an optical mice. Because of physics, the energy of a laser is much higher (concentrated) than the energy of light that is emitted by optical light, which serves further increases the precision of the laser mouse. So you could say in terms of performance a laser mouse is "better" than optical ones not to mention they based on a newer technology, that's putting the sensor in a general term mind you. However to this day people are still debating whatever Laser mice truly benefit most users especially in gaming.
It's because most optical mice use red light is because it the lowest wavelength in the visible spectrum. Higher wavelengths would consume more energy as well as produce extreme amounts of heat. This means the higher the frequency, the smaller the wavelength; thereby more exact the beam would be (accuracy).

guys, my fren got prob... his imperator driver need to on numlock baru can use numpad... means if he bind numpad 1 to the mouse button, he must on numlock to use that button.. otherwise if he no on the numlock, the button of the mouse will have no function..
how?
me also dunno T.T

i thought everyone knows that if u dont on numlock, the numbers on numpad cannot be used anyway.
and why cant he bind to the numbers above qwerty?

i think this yr we going to have more legends coming up

I thought we already gt 2 legend liao?
Mr. Hellkeeper and Mr. Micheal?
xD

This look to be a great 2010 liao..
2 more years world end btw so better buy all the razers u 1..
xD

Anyways, u can only bind the number pad if you have a kb attached 2 ur laptop..
I can bind numbers 2 my orochi or mamba coz i'm using lycosa with my laptop..
So, np..
xD
And yeash, if ur numlock is off, means thhe number pad is useless..

I know..
xD

Erm, Alienware 17" xD
But i only use at home xD

Razer so ....
Overpriced..
I hope as new year comes, they would chop price 4 mako n megalodon but still, hopes r getting less and lesser..

haha razer packaging s hell more impressive while logitech packaging is crap   i think i b throwing away the G5 soon 4 razer  

well i didnt realli uninstall the firmware..i just merely remove the imperator firmware updater lol and the main problem now is i cannot open the firmware updater..error keeps on popping out..below is the thing i keep on getting

i str8 plug in the mouse before i install both the firmware and the driver.
i realized something was wrong so i uninstalled them and reinstalled the firmware updater first.
when i try to open the updater, that's the error message i keep on getting.
and basically that's it.
i just went to the add or remove program there to remove the firmware updater..i don think that's uninstalling the firmware tho lol