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SeanWong
post Nov 12 2009, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(sammesul81 @ Nov 12 2009, 05:09 PM)
anyone here creative enuf to create WE10 siggy? brows.gif
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i heard TS is a expert on this... rolleyes.gif

see his siggy you know la.. tongue.gif

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post Nov 12 2009, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(ikram_p @ Nov 12 2009, 09:12 PM)
we2010, great game, slow pace, build momentum bit by bit, and the goal...oh the goal, feel different for each goals.
the ball have a really2 good physic, so anything can happen, like a real soccer.
even small no name team can beat a giant team this time around. thumbup.gif
one that i hate about we2010 are the stadium, emptied and liveless..and the keeper are tooo superb.
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the stadium is very good atmosphere what, where got emptied seat bro, it's always full with attendant la, just that for liveless part i agree with you sweat.gif (all the audience are 3D pixel ppl, if you ever play NBA2K series you will know what is call lively audience). However it is accetable for me as one football stadium can accomodate at least 30,000 audience (some even 60,000 ++) so in fact it is very hard to make every one of the audience all look lively, coz football game is unlike basketball game that the audience is not too many.

As for keeper part. thousand of WE & PES fans complained to Konami that the previous 2008 & 2009 version the keeper is easy to beat, and keeper always punch ball inside the field and let opponent score rebound goal...in this version they improve goalkeeper AI still got ppl complain pulak doh.gif If you ever play 2009 version when 1-on-1 with goalkeeper you got 80% can bypass the goalie and score, now this ver. you can't do it anymore, which i think is the best improvement overall.

Personally i like this ver. goalkeeper AI, that is only called realsim and dont allow more cheap goal nod.gif

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post Nov 13 2009, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(lopak @ Nov 12 2009, 10:06 PM)
goalkeeper AI are slightly improve and still easy to score cheap goals.
WE09 1 on 1 with goalkeeper for me 100% can score a goal and WE10 90% can score a goal.

in online mode it's hard to play my prefer style ingame coz of delays in everythings i do.

Me online mode=kecewa.
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sure or not bro? 1-on-1 with keeper in WE10 you 90% can score? You must be very very expert ni.. laugh.gif

Well as for delay passing it's very subjective. For me personally, i like it coz it keep reminds me like real life the players must at least get the ball touch his feet only can perform a good pass, not to mentioned you must avoid interference from opponent in order to execute a proper passing.

Some say it is a delay, but for me i think Konami purposely program it like this way, so that you must play smart and won't be so arcady like you always can perform 100% passing precisely to your teammate, even got opponent in front of you, just like another footy game whistling.gif

QUOTE(ikram_p @ Nov 12 2009, 10:11 PM)
well, keepers movement, reflex and agility are so high/buff on this we2010... realism? but its ok, only a game for fun, rather being beaten like 7 to 1 on previous version.

defenders are quite good/useful this time around. lagging, got no malaysia server, will be coming soon?
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For me WE2009 is really designed for pure fun without much simulation. It can be shown that every person can score like 5-5, 6-6, 7-7 high score almost every match. Some players are unstoppable, and it didn't reward those who can play defensively, and everyone online tends to use those overpower team like Man Utd (with Ronaldo inside the squad), Barca, Inter, and Brazil, simply becoz Konami too emphasize on attacking approach and some players are set with too high stats.

In WE2010 ppl start to use small teams online and if play more tactically, even can beat those so-called big teams anytime. And you can hardly get big score like previous ver., due to Konami has well balance between attack and defend approach. It also reminds me of previous PS2 WE era where you can play in free flowing attacking style, while at the same time, master the art of defending. That's i call simulation and realism. thumbup.gif

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post Nov 13 2009, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Nov 13 2009, 09:30 AM)
Joey: 'Okay, Houston, we've had a problem here.'
SeanWong: 'This is Houston. Say again please.'
Joey: 'Houston, we've had a problem. We've had a different version of Edit File.'

At first, I tried copying the Edit File from USB drive to the PS3 system. Fine. Encountered corrupted file. But I found out the problem which is the folder creation part. (This has been rectified and fixed. I managed to upload the whole file, one by one into the system)

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However, when I slotted in the WE2010 disc, it loaded until 66% and this pop up window came up, which triggers not only frustration but also I started off cursing right in front of my LCD monitor.

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Anyone can guide me so that I can enjoy the edited kits, please?

Regards, Joey

p.s: Currently I'm using Firmware 2.80. (Seems to me I didn't download the latest Firmware) could this be the problem? The one reason that I could think of is the Konami patch that I've yet to download.

Oh before that, mine is WE2010 Region 3
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oh perhaps you must try to update your fw to latest 3.01 1st then go online with WE. download the 1st patch from Konami (a mandatory update), then after that go in-game, proceed to "sys setting"-->"download" there to update 2nd patch from Konami. Then only you follow the step-by-step on front page on how to copy inesen's OF to your HDD, i believe all will be sort it out bro.

Coz almost all of us already update to latest fw 3.01 in order to play online, so i never expect that one will affect the OF's being compatible to your WE copy. My bad.

Definitely it work if you follow what i mentioned above. As all of us have been enjoying inesen's decent OF with all EPL & La Liga fully license kits thumbup.gif

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 13 2009, 09:49 AM)
Hey... u copy my word....   tongue.gif  I was mention b4, this is not delay pass, this is due to the situation, believe me if u play football in real life or watching football match u can see why the player got chance to pass the ball but he dint pass it and still carry the ball. This is my own experience as i have play many years football in real life although i m not a professional player.  whistling.gif

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Haha the more i watch those football match from EPL, La Liga and Serie A, the more i think WE is resemble to the real life match, thats why i share the same feeling like you, that the players can execute nice pass based on situation. And only WE offer me with such realism and randomness in-game like real life football rclxms.gif


Added on November 13, 2009, 10:37 am
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Nov 13 2009, 10:23 AM)

p.s: Sometimes I found it very distracting especially when I want to build up my attacks from the mid field. Makes my eyes all peeled up and making decisions on the fly on who to pass the ball to or switching side to side. Overall, I'm still getting the hang of it. Got my score 3-0 against Panathinaikos F.C. (Difficulty setting is at Professional)

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Regards, Joey

p.s: The goalkeepers are slightly improved, but definitely still prone to silly mistakes. But it wouldn't hampered much to cheap goals.
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you try to play in super-star level the goalkeeper are much more improve and reliable icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 13 2009, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Nov 13 2009, 09:53 AM)
The stadium is well packed. Full house. Anyway, for the drawback for WE2010, it would be:

1. Bloody annoying commentaries by Jon Champion and Mark Lawrenson. I have to admit,  Martin Tyler and Andy Gray's commentaries are spot on and they are on a different level. If only KONAMI would bring them in and bin Jon and Mark off.

2. Where's the fukken "sudden cheering" when you scored a goal??!! Where??!! Where??!! Where's the uproar when someone scored a goal??!!

3. The full licensing issue. Although the UEFA Championship indeed look good. But it would be complete if they managed to bag the full license. (I know this is too much to ask but as an end user, I am entitled to voice any dissatisfaction(s) so that they can improve)

4. The inclusion of email from our team helpdesk would be a nice add on. They should come up with something more like a professional football management office. (similar to FIFA10)

So far, these have been the setbacks that I could see from WE2010. The rest are top notch. Even my wife says the faces of the players are more realistic in WE2010 than FIFA10.

Regards, Joey

p.s: The tempo of running and the build up tend to be quite pacey. Is it me or is it something else? I've read a few postings here by others and most of them are saying the tempo is a bit slow? Hmmm~~~~
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1. Yeah i agree JC and ML commentary is disgusting as always. I dont seem to hear any passionate lines come out from their mouth doh.gif So i used to switch to JP commentary, although i dont understand what they said, but their high tempo is really made the game more exciting to play with. "Shooootooo, Goalllllllllllllll" haha rclxm9.gif

2. Are you score a goal when you are a away team? the audience wont cheer up for your score coz you are a away team.

3. Licensing issue is now not a prob for us, as we have some smart guys like inesen who can produce a stunning and look-alike real kits.

4. hmm..this one is a nice suggestion and i hope konami can include in next year title. nod.gif

5. Yeah if you ever play online match, you can obviously found out that online pace is much slower than offline match. Buy overall it is very subjective, some think the pace is perfect, some think the pace is too fast.


Added on November 13, 2009, 10:59 am
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Nov 13 2009, 10:49 AM)
Eh! Wait a sec~~~Am I supposed to delete the OPTION FILE? If I'm not mistaken, I DID NOT DELETE the option file.

Is it Option File folder or Edit File folder that needed to be deleted?

p.s: Oh bummer! Now I'm having headaches. Should I just bloody delete everything off? I'm terrible, horrible, and vegetable when it comes to download and upload stuff. I'm getting rusty on technological procedures. Sigh~~~Download at 36%
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you can try not to delete the OF first. Just update Sony fw, then update 2 patches from Konami (refer my previous post), then delete your "EDIT SAVE" (at Save Utility) only, re-copy inesen "EDIT SAVE" from your USB drive (coz the previous EDIT SAVE will back to default after you update Konami patch), kits just leave it there, then in-game there try to go system setting to re-load the OF, see it will complete the whole process or not.

I hope you can get what you want Joey icon_rolleyes.gif

P/S: JUST "EDIT SAVE" file being delete, others (system file, kits and etc.) you just remain there.

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post Nov 13 2009, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Nov 13 2009, 11:08 AM)
Wookie! I'm going bonkers with all these. I'll try all the available options possible. But to be honest, I've got a bad feeling about it.

Aiks! I have to go back and reconfirm if I'm on the Home ground or Away ground.

Regards, Joey

p.s: I'm still experimenting the game. Still haven't read the manual booklet yet. Having a family at home really saps away your time.
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Don't worry Joey. If you follow the steps you definitely can get the kits package. Then you will know what a good work done by inesen that make the game even more realism, apart from player likeliness rclxms.gif

P/S: haha i'm also having disturbance from family matters but still enjoy the game as well tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 13 2009, 11:14 AM)
Noted. Print and sent to Sean's wife laugh.gif

Hahahaha... tonight play or not?
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i.....see.....got.....chance.....or......not.......

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 13 2009, 11:23 AM)
Just say today Friday nite is "My WE NITE. DO not disturb me!".... hahaha rclxm9.gif
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"WE10 and DAUGHTER, which one more important?"

That is what i've been questioned everytime... sweat.gif

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post Nov 13 2009, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Nov 13 2009, 11:34 AM)
I laughed my pants off. Good catch there! At least the game will last until the World Cup comes next year. Well, it's just months away but I'm looking forward to it as well.

Download at 92%. I'll do some readings on the KONAMI patch first. See how the process goes from there.

Regards, Joey
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remember insert your game while the internet connectivity on first. Then you'll be prompt to update a mandatory patch from Konami. After update the 1st patch, go in-game there, "system setting", "download" to update 2nd patch from Konami.

Then only you proceed to delete your own "EDIT SAVE" file in Save Utility, plug in your USB drive, re-copy inesen's "EDIT SAVE" to your ps3 again (the other kits that you've been copy just remain there). Then go to in-game there again to load your OF & Edit Save file (if you still didn't see it, you can go to sys setting there, just manually re-load the OF again).

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QUOTE(pojiekun @ Nov 13 2009, 11:48 AM)
Of coz playing in the weekend la  sweat.gif . This morning i woke up early juz to test whether my online gaming was smooth or not. My wife juz shake his head shakehead.gif . Only one game coz hv to rushed to work.
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so you have test few times on the speed test during 8pm onwards to see got stable connection huh?

Do you know lately Streamyx will screw the speed from 8pm to 12am everyday? at least that's what happen to me. My speed will drop drastically during this certain period which they classify as "peak hour" where there are traffic congested due to too many ppl online at the period..

Dont know whether it is applicable to you or not...
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QUOTE(pojiekun @ Nov 13 2009, 12:10 PM)
Yup yesterday i did speedtest several time on my ps3 around 7pm like that n the speed is consistently gud for online game. But then play with amad_jay around 8pm above, it turn red. Demmm.. I guess what ur saying is true about peak hour. Even when i try to open msg from somebody it took sometime to open u know. But this morning everything is damn fast n smooth. U open ur msg n it just pop up in a matter of second only.
p/s: amad_jay is dangerous....beware sweat.gif
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who know maybe amad_jay's connection got prob but not yours?

i played with him before, so far 4-5 matches i'm not mistaken, all no delay or lag whatsoever.
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post Nov 13 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(inesen @ Nov 13 2009, 12:21 PM)
i hate it when i copied the saved formation in data management they only copy the formation but not the lineup
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bug? blink.gif
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post Nov 13 2009, 12:43 PM

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i remember i like to play BAL in WE2009..

But now not even have time to touch at ML, and CL only progress half way, so not to mentioned about BAL...

Damn i wish i got more time to play WE2010 but lately too many family commitment that delay my gaming time..

i envy some of your guys that are still college students, can enjoy your gaming time as long as possible..
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Nov 13 2009, 12:48 PM)
You wrong. I also a college student yet have to give commitment to my other half every night. Only 3-4  matches every night only.
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At least you can have 3-4 matches EVERY NIGHT.

Mine can only played during weekend, and provided i didn't ask to be a driver to fetch my family go shopping when my wife suddenly think she want to buy some stuff, then whole day gone cry.gif

QUOTE(lopak @ Nov 13 2009, 12:48 PM)
i envy you coz have ur own family to look after. rclxms.gif
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Just take my words. Do enjoy your gaming life as much as possible while you are not engage in any family matters now.

You'll know what i mean after you got married... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Nov 13 2009, 01:03 PM)
Very true indeed. I'm married too and a kid will be coming this December. Even now (sometimes, dependant on my other half), I can't even have a night for gaming. Sometimes during weekends, when I thought of having the whole day for gaming, then suddenly wife wants to go shopping. Usually half a day will be gone. Sigh~~~there's significant difference when I was still studying and where I'm standing right now.

Regards, Joey

p.s: I'm playing games while my wife is sleeping. Sneaking mode. Hihihi~~~
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haha when you get your 1st kid you will even lack of time to enjoy your gaming time cry.gif

i remember when i was studying i can play as long time as i want, now is totally different. doh.gif
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QUOTE(inesen @ Nov 13 2009, 01:08 PM)
hehe same here....but you should also look from your wife's point of view..

weekdays you go to work... weekends are the only time both of you can go out for a date and shopping... but instead you wanna play game tongue.gif

give and take thumbup.gif  maybe afternoon evening play games....nite go out for dinner...shopping....

dont take your family for granted wub.gif
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yeah thats why i would not argue with my wife when she need me to do something for her, like shopping la, or take care of kids.

Therefore i have compromise with her to allow me for gaming during weekend, i help her to do everything during weekdays. If she need me to do something on weekend, i'm also ok and nothing quarrel, coz i understand it's not easy to take care of child, plus she is also tired after work nod.gif

So bro when we gonna have our re-match? miss your Liverpool laugh.gif
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QUOTE(inesen @ Nov 13 2009, 02:03 PM)
tonite or tomorrow nite maybe brows.gif

btw i need you to do me a favor again notworthy.gif
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what's the matter mate?
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post Nov 14 2009, 11:51 AM

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sorry guys that i have msg yesterday but suddenly have to turn off the console.

i was sneaky wait my wife & daughter sleep and wake up at 1am to play WE, just msg all your guys but since all of your guys were playing halfway so just managed to play 1 ranking match with a HK player, then suddenly my wife wake up and ask me to help to feed baby, so no choice got to off the console...

Just managed to play 1 match yesterday, adoi... doh.gif
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er...why still got ppl asking how to copy inesen's OF into the game? sweat.gif

First, you must ensure your ps3 is update with latest Sony firmware 3.01, then on your internet connection and on the game, you'll be prompt to update 1st Konami patch (v1.01). After that go inside the game, "system setting" ---> "download" there to update 2nd patch from Konami (v1.02).

Then follow every single step-by-step from front page of this thread. (remember to delete your own "Edit Data" - 1 file only at your PS3 Save Utility there before you copy all the inesen's file to your PS3).

Done!

Very simple and straight forward. smile.gif


Added on November 16, 2009, 2:53 pmlast saturday managed to play only 1 match with nagakeciks sweat.gif

So this is the 1st time i encounter 2 secs delay...lolz score 3 own goal and the match suddenly dc and pop up a msg "the game has been ended due to improper conduct" something like that doh.gif

when i first enter the match i know that must be something wrong there (how come vs local the opponent signal can be red colour? if foreigners i understand la, but local? sweat.gif )

So for your guys information, if you happen to play with a local and his signal is red colour, confirm got delay 2-3 secs, coz suppose vs locals should get yellow/green signal status (that's so far what i have experience).

But still, i remember i play with inesen from JP his signal always in red colour, but the game smooth like silk.. hmm.gif still wondering how to know whether the game will be smooth or not b4 it start.. blush.gif

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post Nov 16 2009, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(pojiekun @ Nov 16 2009, 02:59 PM)
I think the msg says "the game has been ended becoz the transmission is worsen" la sean. I know becoz it happened to me thousand time already. Im the expert on this..LOL sweat.gif . Dont play2 k
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No that one i know. you try to play with someone in ranking match, and if you score 3 own goal that match will automatically end with a message "the match has been ended due to improper conduct", not the transmission worse statement.

QUOTE(inesen @ Nov 16 2009, 03:02 PM)
@sean

maybe its because your line is 4mb and mine is 100mb hmm.gif
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hmm...perhaps.

nagakeciks told me his connection got prob..last time WE2009 the host will be decide the smoothness of the game. This year title some said it is based on both party connection status..i wonder.. hmm.gif

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