Hi worldbiz,

This sounds interesting, could you please describe in more detail what do you mean "battery (power down) problem?"
By the way, my problem is "power up" instead...

I did the hard-reset for the third times --- just for today...!

This morning, I checked SW Update and saw a new item: Memory reorganiser 1.0
I installed it, the installation took quite long (few minutes here, at least in my case).
I reboot the phone manually and yes, I reboot my phone quite frequently...
Then it stuck at Nokia screen again!!!

After several hours of attempts trying to get it to boot up but failed... I gave up, did the hard reset!
I format the Mass Memory as well as recommended earlier in this v3 thread.
Restore only Contacts, Messages, Calendar, Bookmark, Setting etc...
Several reboot was done to make sure everything is working properly.
I then installed this Memory reorganiser 1.0 once more time,
very effectively, the next reboot took forever!
Did hard reset for the second time!

I repeat the restore work again...
Until I installed Garmin Mobile XT v5.00.60,
It cannot reboot AGAIN~!

Did my third hard-reset for today~!

I restore again, installed Garmin Mobile XT v5.00.50 instead of .60 this time.
I installed a few important apps. and did some reboot all went fine.

Then at one time, the reboot stuck at Nokia screen again!
And surprisingly, another reboot was successful!
But one strange thing, the phone show "Installing..." when it boot up, then said "Unable to install from memory card...".
Can't find anything unusual in Application Manager as well.

Until now I did 4~5 test reboots all successful~!
I did not install that Memory reorginiser 1.0 anymore.

I still have 1 strange entry in my phone though...!
Despite I formatted drive C and E, restored only Contacts, Messages, Calendar, Settings etc... (EXCLUDE all "user files" from C and E)
I still have Gmail in my phone which I cannot uninstall.
It also cannot re-install from Gmail site, saying Certificate error?!?!?!
Could this (corrupted Gmail) be the main reason for the reboot error?

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Added on December 19, 2009, 11:07 pmThis is also why I'm looking for ways to downgrade my firmware to v12,
but I can't find a good guide to do it~!

Tried JAF, but don't know which setting should use for firmware downgrading,
it reported "unable to prepare phone for downgrading"...
Should I use "Dead USB" option to downgrade?



This post has been edited by G K Lai: Dec 19 2009, 11:07 PM

You mean that Nokia logo white screen have strikes again?

Although I can't find the real reason for this stuck issue,
but I think it is not related to Garmin Mobile XT as someone told me (maybe?).
I uninstalled my Garmin and it also hang~!!!!

I also don't think it is related to the recent update of "Memory reorganiser 1.0".
Even now I didn't install this update, the phone would hang as well~!!!!

Believe me or not? Until now I still have this issue despite I already hard-reset the phone so many times for today!!!
Really really can't find out where is the culprit~!

I do notice one thing quite strange...
When I pressed the power button trying to switch ON the phone,
the screen not always appeared (light up) the same way, it acted randomly:
When the power button fully pressed and after the vibrate:
1) The screen stays dark for a few seconds, then light up...
2) The screen stays dark for a few seconds, then light up 1 or 2 second and goes off (light off) then lights up again...
3) The screen lights up instantly then goes off for 1 or 2 seconds then lights up again...
4) The screen lights up instantly and stayed...
None of the above tells whether the boot will be successful or it will stuck...

I had 3 successful attempts to make it boot up after a failed booting,
at least a temporary solution that I've succeeded for these 3 attempts:
When it stuck at Nokia logo screen, the only way is the take out the battery, do it.
Then put the battery back, switch on the phone until you see the first lights up,
immediately remove the battery to interrupt the booting process.
Put back the battery and the next boot (most likely) will be success (but not guaranteed).

Hi PyOsE,

Because I find it tedious to uninstall so many applications, I finally decided to do hard-reset and format the Mass Memory all at once.
No more "Installing..." issue.
I then restore only Msg, Contacts, Calendar, Bookmark, Notes, Settings.
The phone still hang at Nokia screen without warning after a few reboot (to test it).

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Added on
Strangely, I did not have Windows Live Messenger installed before.
I even don't know what that Boingo App Uninstaller.
Am using the built-in default black theme with no customization.
The phone still hang on start-up!

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Added on

Right, it's hard for us to do backup everyday.
Sometimes new and important SMS comes in,
sometimes just added new contact numbers etc...
If the phone hang, we're gone! The new data is gone!

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Added on
Me too reboot the phone regularly to "refresh" it.
Really hard to live with a phone that I cannot reboot, what a joke?
If I go outstation for several days then if the phone acted strange,
I think I reboot it, but this reboot could be a lethal one~!

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Added on
Since last few days the phone hang at Nokia screen many times in a day and after my many attempts to reset and restore it.
It seems the problem still there as the phone hang again on Sunday morning when I try to power it up.
(I shut it down so it can rest overnight, but it won't wake up after that)

I then do hard reset again, but this time I restore my data as describe above but exclude "Settings".
Then I can start to abuse it by installing, rebooting etc...
So far it performed quite well, and even better in some points:

* Was having the issue with photo gallery. When enter to view a single picture in full screen, then I choose [Back], the entire gallery exit instead of go back to thumbnail view. This problem is gone!

* Was unable to choose MID file as alarm clock tone (only amr, mp3 were listed out), this problem is gone, I can now choose MID as alarm clock tone as well!

* The Facebook widget/application work faster than ever, it never run this smoothly since the first day I bought this phone!

Up to now, I guess my problem was due to restoring a corrupted "Settings" back to the phone, so the problem always still there and making me hard-reset the phone so many times in a day.
Also guess, the NSU's firmware update wasn't perfectly convert or treat the old settings from previous firmware.
Could be compatibility issue between the old and new firmware that Nokia did not sort out before publishing this v20 firmware (that's why we have problem only after v20 firmware update).

The phone works perfectly until now, but I really don't know when will it strikes again...
Just hope it won't happen at the moment that I need it the most~!

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Added on December 22, 2009, 1:53 amUsually, after we've formatted the phone (drive C:), most, if not all application that were installed in drive E: still show up inside [Apps.] in the menu.
Does it due to the phone always scan for all memory storage (built-in 32GB, and MicroSD card, if we inserted) for installed application during booting up?

Actually I had an issue earlier:

After hard reset and formatted Mass Memory, I restore my Msg, Calendar, Notes, Bookmarks, Settings and reboot the phone.
Then I only realized that my "Gmail" application still in [Apps.] menu!

The application won't start, can't be uninstall (no reason given, just error), cannot install a new copy over it so that I can remove it later.
The icon just stuck there and I cannot uninstall it, run it, reinstall it~!

I then connect the phone in Mass Storage mode, go to the [Private] folder then find and delete all traces of the Gmail, reboot the phone...
Shockingly, Gmail still in the [Apps.] menu...!
Meaning it is in my newly formatted drive C: ?

In my last hard-reset and restore my data without restoring the "Settings" option, the Gmail is gone. I can then install a new copy of this application.

This experience make me think, the "Settings" in our backup not really just some phone settings but certain application folder also included in the backup?



This post has been edited by G K Lai: Dec 22 2009, 01:53 AM

So far mine is ok...

In case your phone stuck again (touch wood),
no harm you try hard-reset, format mass memory then do not restore your old Settings and see whether it helps?

Lol~! Me too, not dare to install anything more than i really need it~!


Use the built-in backup from File Manager, it will backup to your mass memory.
I use it more now, so that if I really need to hard-reset the phone while out of home,
I can still have a copy to restore.

But no matter you use the phone's backup program or PC Suite/Ovi Suite,
after the backup, you have to go to Messaging to change your storage back
to E: drive (unless you choose to use Phone memory to store all your msg).

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Added on

Does anyone been able to run CIMB mobile banking application in N97?
I tried but no luck, it cannot enter text, so can't login.
Wish this is not *only my phone* problem~!

Opps! I'm sorry because I have a MicroSD card inserted,
and the backup was indeed saved in this memory card and
I do not know it will not save the backup to mass memory (E:)...
Why Nokia decided to do this strange behavior again?

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Added on December 24, 2009, 1:26 amMany thanks for sharing this...

Unfortunately, I lost the hack capability after the hard reset...
Although signed the SIS file, but when install, an error message
[Requested application access not granted] appeared and
the installation was canceled~!



This post has been edited by G K Lai: Dec 24 2009, 01:26 AM

am using opda cert. and wonder which cert will be granted?

HelloOX cannot installed on v20 N97.
The phone once updated to v20, it cannot be hacked this way at this moment (yet).
Read more info here (scroll down to 27th Oct 2009, N97 section): http://helloox2.com/?page=news

This is really frustrating~!
Why don't you try not to restore the "Settings"?
I don't have this issue since I discarded my "Settings" and redo all settings manually.
I also find it behaving differently that I never seen after my previous hard-reset.

I don't know which is the best way, but I would do the following which you can consider:

For SMS messages, go to Menu -> Messaging -> Options (bottom-left) -> Settings -> Other -> Memory in use and choose the E: Mass memory drive.

For personal folders, photos and videos, I would connect the phone to computer and move the files and folders using the computer.



One possible problem, maybe... moving your photos might cause the phone to display duplicate or broken thumbnails... but I'm not so sure...

This post has been edited by G K Lai: Dec 30 2009, 08:24 PM

If your main concern is the Messaging folders and pictures inside the MMS etc...
I think PyOsE's suggestion is the best way to backup all those.

If you don't like to use PC Suite/Ovi Suite, another way is to use File Manager's Backup
function to backup all your SMS/MMS to your MicroSD. The backup files will be save
in a hidden folder called Backup on your MicroSD.

If you want to format the MicroSD as well, then temporary copy that folder to your
computer. Copy it back to the card after you've done formatting.

I use the phone to post comments on Facebook, either using the phone's default browser or the Facebook application,
the little phone icon does not appear next to my comments... tried post comments using GPRS or WLAN connection, all the same.

The little phone icon was there, it was working well, several days after my last hard-reset of the phone.
I remember I didn't do any major customization to the phone, no application was installed as well.

I have no idea this is the problem of my phone or Facebook itself?

Anyone noticed the same problem?

Apparently, my phone sucking big ass already....!

Actually not that little icon so important, but this tells that my phone should have something wrong...

Anyway, I will try clear the cache and history then try again tomorrow...

Ovi Map with free navigation? You mean voice guidance?

Sorry for a little off topic:
Actually I want to ask this earlier (but always forgot)...
Why we got voice guidance navigation with no extra fee when we buy a GPS navigation device like Garmin Nuvi etc...
But our phone isn't cheap, and we have to pay Nokia extra subscription fee to use this feature?

N97 Mini have largeer C: drive than N97?
I just wonder why N97 Mini can, but N97 cannot....
Maybe the "Memory Reorganiser 1.0" in the phone's SW Update is design to solve this problem?

I find it so funny, this is like a joke. Nokia R&D design this phone, so that even themselves would find
the C: drive space is not enough...!

Hi PyOsE,

We cannot download the actual map file and manually install onto our phone right?
Then how to download this Ovi Map for N97 Mini and install to our N97?

I have Nokia Map Loader, my C: drive still have 53.1MB.
When I hook up my phone, choose the Malaysia map and required language for voice guidance,
it start to download.

But, how can I know if this is the latest v3.3 with free navigation support?

When you say Ovi Map, does it means "map data" in Nokia Map Loader?

I'm quite confuse with all these...

The time and effort to upload, then quote the download links here...
Plus, the installation instructions...
My tribute to you Xploit Machine... very much appreciated, thank you~!

So, these are actually the "application" of the Nokia Map with free navigation,
and what we've downloaded through Nokia Map Loader are just the "data" of the application.
Am I correct with this?

I finished downloaded all the files, I will install it now and post the result here later.

Many thanks for your helpful efforts...!

P/S: I can download the Malaysia map and voices through Nokia Map Loader,
you can save your time and no need to upload that large file.
But anyway, maybe your upload could benefit other user as well?
Thanks~!

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Added on January 24, 2010, 4:58 amDownloaded.... installed.... tested....
I would say it is interesting.... but one error I found up to now...

Share location function work as expected,
it post my location to Facebook without any problem,
but the problem is, while the description is correct,
when clicked on the link it posted on Facebook,
Ovi Map shows I am in the middle of the sea at Gulf of Guinea, Africa...!!!! LOL.....!

You can try the link: http://bit.ly/4qqwF7

I think this is the problem of Ovi Map itself...?
It actually correctly show my location on the map in my phone.

I can't stop laughing on this~!!!!!!!

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Added on January 24, 2010, 5:39 amThe actual Ovi Maps 3.03 for N97 will be available on 28th-Jan-2010.
Nokia employee said this: http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discus...thread.id=16086

He said this is for for those without Operator varient firmware, but I'm not sure if our Avaxx and Zitron set consider "operator variant"?



This post has been edited by G K Lai: Jan 24 2010, 05:39 AM

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