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post Oct 27 2009, 01:44 PM

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Living in Mars is different from landing on the moon. We might have the technology but will we have the capacity to do so?

It is possible that by that time we could attempt a smaller scale lifepod like experiment where the structure is built here on earth and transported there to sustain life for maybe a few people. Very risky but plausible. As an experiment.

But a full scale colony, I don't see that happening that soon. It will have to be the greatest human endeavour ever. Biggest structure built in space.

We still haven't colonised our oceans and I think that will be a more ermmm cheaper alternative as an experiment(think Bioshock except without the crazy ideologies and gene altering science). If we can survive in an artificial environment without sun light, it becomes more plausible to colonise other worlds.
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post Nov 12 2009, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(Boolean @ Nov 11 2009, 10:33 PM)
i always wonder why the monkeys in zoo negara stopped evolving. if we were the monkeys, shouldn't the monkey be us now?

or are they the "defects" evolution stunted halfway, as it is with the rest of the animals.

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Your point being? Monkeys make better astronauts or something?
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post Nov 13 2009, 01:55 PM

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I believe the general understanding is that Mars used to have water a long long time ago. The theory was that the canals seen on Mars were speculated to be rivers.

But right now there is none. Astronomers think that there might be frozen ice on the polar caps of Mars and this is what they think could be used as a source of water.

refer to this on frozen ice on Mars:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/...x-20080620.html
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEMGKA808BE_0.html

Still it cannot be said if this water source is enough for a colony on Mars or if there is a deeper water source. I think the article TS shared was an overoptimistic estimate.


Added on November 13, 2009, 3:53 pmIt was the Italians that discovered what they called 'canali' on Mars in the late 19th century. But translated to the ENglish canals it made it sound like these were there work of some intelligent life form. Much of the speculation about these canals led to famous work like HG Wells War of the Worlds. Today we can clearly say that many of the canali that Sierchi and Schiaperelli saw were mostly due to optical illusions. Telescopes at those times weren't powerful enough to view those distances clearly.

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In reality now, there is only a few valleys identified that might have held water in Mar's past.

Based on newer picture of Mars(based on what we know), do you see any canals?
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post Nov 14 2009, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Amrik @ Nov 14 2009, 05:25 AM)
As far away as Mars is, we have our closest neighbor to examine. The moon. And it has been made official, there is water ice on the moon.

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Quotations in your article was from 2005 and 2008, it is outdated.
Mars had water a long time ago ?

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"Based on newer picture of Mars(based on what we know), do you see any canals?"

Are we geologists or terrain examiners in the forum ? Let the work be done by the people who are in that line instead of making assumptions, I mean hey, are you going to tell a plumber how to do his job ? If you get what I am saying. By the way the image that you are showing is an image from 2008, it's not really 'new'.

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Yes well that is what I said. There is frozen ice(which is water) on Mars. My point about canals was not really in response to the article in question but really something I wanted to share with others. In the past we believed there were many rivers on Mars (based on Piettro Sierchi's assumptions). An interesting(albeit outdated, you are right) idea really that people used to believe there were intelligent beings on Mars.

PS : Seeing whether there is canals on Mars is a simple request. It doesn't take a geologist or an expert to see that. It not like I'm asking forumers to guess the composition of the soil on Mars or something. The image is new enough to compare with Schiaperelli's image of canals on Mars which was my point. With better quipment we can now have sharper images of planets compared to what olden days astronomers used.

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