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klthor
post Oct 17 2013, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(yohannes @ Oct 17 2013, 05:13 PM)
Hey guys,

Till today I am still confused about this.

I am living and working from home in Malaysia. My company is in Singapore. My salary is TTed to me on a monthly basis from Singapore but to my Malaysian bank account.

In this case, is my income taxable?
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actually its very simple, they tax you base on how and where you earn your money. If you earn your money working in malaysia, doesnt matter who pays you, you are taxable. unless you work in sinagpore, bring the cash back into malaysia, then LHDN would not tax you. Eg you work in SG, but your employer bank into your tiger bank in malaysia, then they will not tax you since its not derived from malaysia. the word derived from malaysia is the key of this whole thing. for your case, its derived and received in malaysia. only income received in malaysia but derived outside malaysia is exempted from income tax.
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post Feb 25 2016, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(JaggedEdge @ Feb 25 2016, 05:00 PM)
Thanks! I needed this info! But I got additional questions.
The situation is this: I work in software development from home. The company who hired me does not have a branch here and they pay me directly from their company based in London through Paypal. We communicate through the internet.

So based on your reasoning, I would still need to pay income tax because even though the physical location of the company I work with is in London, during my working hours I am still here in Malaysia. The keyword being "derived from Malaysia" means "when you were working you were physically here in Malaysia", correct?

My question is this, if my company was already deducting my pay for taxes in London, wouldn't that mean I am being double taxed? Or is there a clause somewhere that says if I'm being taxed in London I won't have to be taxed here?
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/...eaties-in-force

should be this one. if your tax paid in uk is higher than malaysia you dont have to pay, but if its lower then u have to topup. if my memory serve me right uk tax rate should be way more higher. just make sure you keep all the tax paid supporting

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post Feb 25 2016, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 25 2016, 05:23 PM)
Yes, correct, subjected to Malaysia tax.

I do not think your company deducted taxes behalf on you in London, as you have no file with the UK tax authority, how can they deduct tax there on your behalf?
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witholding tax i suppose... but i doubt about that since he did not work there at all.
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post Mar 1 2016, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Mar 1 2016, 03:12 PM)
If a freelancer work in Malaysia through an international freelancer site, does the income taxable?
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make it simple, as long as you work in malaysia = taxable. doesnt care who pays u and where they are based, you are 'exporting' your service from malaysia.
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post Apr 1 2016, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 1 2016, 12:21 PM)
Not working in Malaysia if you stay less than 182 days in Malaysia.
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this sort of answer is really scary.
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post Nov 6 2017, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(iqbal1975 @ Nov 6 2017, 05:39 AM)
Hi,

Need advise on the following, I’m a Malaysian residing in Malaysia and currently employed by a foreign company registered in Dubai, appreciate advise for the following;
1) my job requires me to travel overseas so I get a travel day and work day allowances and normally it’s a 3 day job, I’ll send them invoices for service rendered either at job completion or monthly. Am I liable to pay tax....
2) the job requires that I may need to check/correct/submit the report part in Malaysia so does this meet as job overseas....

Appreciate any advise on this matter...
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do you pay tax in dubai? or dubai is a tax free country ? and from there, why you do not need to pay tax in dubai? slowly using logic, you might get your answer.
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post Feb 1 2018, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(vijaiananth @ Feb 1 2018, 12:49 AM)
May I add that there's some minor correction to be made to your statement. The statement "Only income received in Malaysia but derived outside Malaysia is tax-exempt" is not necessarily true in all cases. If the employer is a Malaysian company and sends the Malaysian employee to a Korean company (secondment) for work purposes eg: 2 years, and the employer completely remunerates the employee, he would be subject to Malaysian tax. In this case, although income received in Malaysia but derived outside Malaysia, still, it is taxable. Hence, your statement is not quite right.

Alternatively, if the Malaysian employer sends the employee to Korea to work closely with a Korean company, and the secondment agreement is such that the employee shall be remunerated by the Korean company for the 2 years, then the scenario is that the work done overseas is for the Korean company. This will constitute income received in Malaysia but derived outside Malaysia.

In a nutshell, two conditions to fulfill the criteria: 1) Employee shall not perform work in Malaysia  &  2) The Employer shall not be Malaysian employer (if the employer is any foreign companies based in Malaysia, this automatically means Malaysian company)
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that is another full can of worms to confuse ppl. wages related to employment in malaysia. which is well, hard to define unless you knlw the in and out of each situation.
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post Feb 2 2018, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(vijaiananth @ Feb 2 2018, 11:37 AM)
Well, I'm afraid it is not to confuse people. It is the law, and the responsibility lies on the individual to research the laws of the land in detail and plan the "arrangements" accordingly to safeguard oneself from taxation.

I'm attaching a Malaysian employee secondment to overseas scenario. You may want to read it at your leisure.[attachmentid=9564907]
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thanks, but i have read it maybe 7 to 10 years ago... you can even throw in more such as withholding tax, double taxation agreement etc etc. the reason i said its confusing is for layman, to me im just generally explaining what is consider derived from malaysia and what is not. layman normally thinks received from overseas = derived from oversea which is not right at all.
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post Mar 9 2018, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Feb 14 2018, 12:13 PM)
I see. But if I'm dealing with financial products then this doesn't apply right? After all everything is capital gains. But a profit nontheless. So it would be reported as a profit from financial trading.

I don't see how transfer pricing is applied here.
I'm basically saying:
1)I'm a director of xyz swiss. xyz swiss is a financial trading company registered in switzerland and pays tax there.
2)I put money into xyz swiss under my personal capacity for investment purposes. Not as a director expanding his company.
3)Profit from xyz swiss is sent back to me in malaysia as investment gains every quarter under my personal capacity.

Bonus question: 4)If trading profits are repatriated fully, meaning the company doesn't report any gains or losses, and thus is not taxed, is this considered fraud? Because:
1)Swiss company doesn't gain or lose anything thus not eligible to tax in swiss.
2)Yet money is coming back to me in malaysia as capital gains from overseas investment. Therefore not taxable.
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xyz declare such income to you as dividend or salary or comission? i guess this will differentiate the treatment. and what makes you think that is capital gain in malaysia ? anyway, good luck.. this is as far as i can share my knowledge... im tired of explaining what is income, what is foreign income, and what is capital gain.
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post Mar 9 2018, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(horc00 @ Mar 9 2018, 11:40 AM)
That's right, I am paying tax in SG for my SG salary and tax in MY for my MY salary. I travel to SG once every few months. Is this considered double taxation?
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well double taxation is to avoid same income but taxed twice. its far more complicated when we drill down, for example SG tax you 15% then malaysia tax 18%, then malaysia might want to tax the different 3% smile.gif. but since you are pay tax for all income, you should be quite safe, normally wont bother much unless you have to study DTA in and out. every DTA is different.
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post Mar 16 2018, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(chrisling @ Mar 15 2018, 02:44 PM)
Hi Cherroy,

Hope you're still around and active.

My situation is similar to some of the existing cases here.

1. I work for US company, get paid from Singapore TTed into my Malaysia account.
2. I based in Malaysia.
3. The company is not a registered company in Malaysia.

I know that I'm a taxable person in Malaysia. In this case, how can I get EA form from my employer? As in EA form, employer need to state down their company registered number. Any other format of the file similar to EA form accepted by the LHDN?

Hope can get an answer from you.

Thanks. smile.gif
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US has a very unique taxation, please check if you are paying any tax in US or not. if yes, then check if there is any double taxation agreement with malaysia.
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post Mar 16 2018, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(chrisling @ Mar 16 2018, 11:49 AM)
Thanks for the heads up, I just check with my director and theoretically I work under SG company, cause my pay is come from a SG registered company.
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then u might want to check if you are paying SG tax or not. If yes, check the DTA. general rule, if SG tax > MYR Tax you dont need to pay anything. if SG tax < MYR Tax, you might need to top up the different. have to study the DTA which i didnt smile.gif thats as far as i can tell you.

 

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