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 Budget 2010: 1Malaysia, Together We Prosper, Summary & Discussion

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post Oct 24 2009, 06:11 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Oct 24 2009, 01:34 AM)
If our government manages the money they stand to gain well, we have no doubt lor. But given their record, its like pouring money into their pocket.

GST is worse than ah long. Imagine manufacturer->stockist->distributor->dealer->enduser... 4 x 10% GST. I think thats what holding them back. Malaysian in general aint ready for this.
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GST only applies to end user.
The rest of the guys are in business, they can claim it back.
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post Oct 24 2009, 10:04 AM

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And the saying goes, the poor will be tax the most (percentage wise) and the rich sometimes pay 0% tax.
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post Oct 24 2009, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(dh007014 @ Oct 24 2009, 12:14 PM)
Our government never fail to 'impress' the people with their thoughtless decision. For example, an average joe earn RM3k a month. Not only he has 11% less after deducting EPF, he has to contend with the possibility of having government taxing 10% of it for SPENDING. Ontop of that, he still have to pay income tax. How is that suppose to benefit the people?
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Tax is an expense for living in a civilize society.
The government had paid for schools, build roads, heavily subsidize hospital bill, etc.
That is the benefit you are talking about.
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post Oct 24 2009, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Oct 24 2009, 01:01 PM)
Not only that, our taxes paid also go to some ppl's pockets as "extra income" by paying extra to contractors & suppliers for gov projects & barang used in office, which is always more expensive than the market prices  vmad.gif 80% of our taxes to benefit them & remaining 20% benefits the citizens of Malaysia, this is a fact, we cannot deny it, we have use to it & have to take it because this is Malaysia, Malaysia always boleh!
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That is because Malaysians choose to have such a government. We can only blame on ourselves.
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post Oct 25 2009, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Oct 24 2009, 10:49 PM)
Pro BN supporter. Anyway, we paid road tax dont we? We even pay tolls. So road is out of the equation. The lousy school is nothing to shout about. I never been to a government hospital. I think I'll be dead before they even attend me. Besides, how many new hospital have we really seen? Its laughable.
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No matter who is in power, the government is my partner.
And their tax law is written in my favor.
That is how I look at it.

Government needing more money is a sign of mismanagement.
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post Oct 25 2009, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 25 2009, 12:22 AM)
@jasonhanjk,
And u don't agree our G is mishandling our funds?! I mean come on... RM48k for 1 unit of computer/laptop is totally ridiculous!  And, there's so much more.
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Yes, there are mishandling.
I wish I am the one selling them that laptop. icon_rolleyes.gif


Joke aside.
When government mismanage money like this, the likelihood will happen next is more tax and more printing of the ringgit.
Inflation will be coming in, that will jack up the prices of everything.
Adding that the interest is so low, high inflation is inevitable.

I already acquired a few kg of silver and some properties this year just to position myself if such things happen.

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post Oct 25 2009, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 24 2009, 02:04 PM)
@jasonhanjk,
I'm quite sure there's corruption everywhere; it's just that we're too 'open' about it here.  Having said that, I too agree the government should get their act together even before they start burdening us with more taxes sad.gif

As it is, we're oredi paying a lot of tolls [at least in Klang Valley we are!] plus really, is our petrol being subsidised & are we really not paying more for petrol by introducing RON 95 at the price of RON 97?
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Here is what my uncle from UK told me.

~All politicians are corrupted.
~If he is not corrupted, he is not a politician.


The petrol in Malaysia is already subsidized.
For the benefit of Malaysians and our neighbor (Singapore and Thailand).
The more benefit we want from the government, the more we have to pay back in taxes.
That is how the equation works.

The problem now I see is our subsidized fuel benefit people from other countries.
Our money is being transfer to them.
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post Oct 25 2009, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(sco @ Oct 25 2009, 08:13 AM)


Time to vote these people out! I have done this last election.
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Haha.
No matter who is the government, the end result would be the same.

If Anwar is elected, he promise he will give more fuel subsidy.
Then one would ask, how would he come up with the money? hmm.gif


Cut back at government spending is one way, but which one to cut?
The best answer would be the NEP.

NEP had created many poor people, beating it's purpose of creating wealth for the bumis.

NEP ensures bumi have more Universities entries, creating a back door for not so smart students having the chance to study.
Then what about those bright non-bumi students? Generally they go other countries to study and work there.
So what is the cost?

The real cost would start when these not so smart bumi cannot find job in the private sector, so the government create jobs for them.
Employ them at a meager salary which is so low, there would not be any taxes. For 40 years of their working lives.
Don't forget, we pay taxes to employ them.

Now take Singapore for example, they absorb those bright students that are turn down by Malaysia's University.
After they graduate, they are employ by private company at a very high wages.
They are tax for 40 years, it's an income for the government.
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post Oct 25 2009, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Oct 25 2009, 12:44 PM)
Well, if Pakatan takes over, and weeds out corruption, then the Govt can give more subsidies WITHOUT imposing more tax on the taxpayers. How? If the Govt is transparent in open tenders, alot of money can be saved. Instead of now paying more than RM40k for a laptop.
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Then the questions is again throw back to the citizen.
Are we willing to support a clean and corrupt less government?


Giving more subsidies is a form of corruption.
I give you something back if I am elected. Sounds familiar? ohmy.gif

 

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