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post Oct 22 2009, 12:18 AM, updated 17y ago

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Lagi harga alatan 'tidak masuk akal' dikesan

KUALA LUMPUR 19 Okt. - Laporan Ketua Audit Negara masih lagi mengesan tindakan pembekalan alatan kepada badan berkanun Persekutuan pada harga 'tidak masuk akal' bagi tahun 2008.

Antaranya, laporan itu mengesan pembekalan dua unit komputer riba yang harga pasaran hanya RM9,000 tetapi dibeli pihak Majlis Amanah Rakyat (Mara) untuk kegunaan makmal di Kolej Kemahiran Tinggi Mara (KKTM) Balik Pulau, Pulau Pinang pada harga RM84,640.

Kolej itu juga dibekalkan sebanyak 15 unit pencetak laser jenama Hewlet Packard P3005X pada harga RM7,722 seunit berbanding harga pasaran RM5,000 seunit.

"Jumlah yang dibayar oleh Mara adalah RM40,830 lebih tinggi daripada harga pasaran," menurut laporan itu.

Antara kelemahan lain yang dikesan adalah pembelian 204 manual pengajaran kulit keras antara harga RM1,393 dan RM2,945 yang berjumlah RM358,476 dan kesemua manual itu sebenarnya tidak digunakan.

Pembelian alatan berjenama sama tetapi pada harga berlainan juga dikesan menyebabkan kerugian mencecah ratusan ribu di kolej berkenaan.

"Wujud perbezaan harga setiap peralatan yang sama di makmal dan bengkel berlainan, harga itu didapati tidak konsisten antara makmal yang terlibat, walaupun peralatan berkenaan mempunyai spesifikasi dan jenama sama," katanya.

Mara juga dikesan gagal menguna pakai pandangan yang diberikan pihak perunding.

"Pada pandangan audit, kos peralatan oleh perunding dan harga pasaran perlu digunakan sebagai panduan semasa menetapkan harga kontrak.

"Selain itu, kajian pasaran peralatan perlu dibuat dengan teliti sebelum perolehan diluluskan. Mara sepatutnya mengoptimumkan perkhidmatan perunding untuk menjalankan kajian pasaran peralatan bagi menjamin harga yang ditawarkan adalah munasabah," katanya.

Wujud juga permasalahan tuntutan bayaran di luar syarat kontrak.

Laporan Ketua Audit Negara 2008 turut mengesan beberapa kelemahan dalam pelaksanaan projek Maktab Rendah Sains Mara (MRSM) Kepala Batas.

Antara kelemahan yang diperhatikan adalah kontraktor gagal menyiapkan projek dalam tempoh masa yang ditetapkan.

Walaupun diberikan tiga kali lanjutan masa iaitu selama 251 hari, bangunan MRSM masih belum memperoleh Sijil Kelayakan Menduduki sehingga kini menyebabkan Sijil Perakuan Siap Kerja tidak dapat dikeluarkan.

Selain itu, denda ganti rugi yang ditetapkan tidak dikenakan ke atas kontraktor atas kelewatan menyiapkan projek.

"Di samping itu, bangunan yang siap mempunyai kecacatan dan kurang berkualiti.

''Berlaku kebocoran paip dan resapan air di asrama dan kuarters guru hingga meninggalkan kesan ketara di dinding, kemudahan di pavilion dan di padang tidak dapat digunakan kerana pembinaan tidak mengikut spesifikasi," katanya.

Selain itu, Jabatan Audit Negara juga telah melakukan audit terhadap 11 projek pembinaan di lima kampus Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) iaitu di Sabah, Shah Alam, Puncak Alam, Puncak Perdana dan Kelantan.

Pengauditan dijalankan antara Oktober hingga Disember 2008 mendapati beberapa kelemahan dalam pengurusan projek pembinaan dan penyenggaraan kampus UiTM.

"Antara kelemahan adalah kurang perancangan di peringkat awal menyebabkan banyak perubahan kerja dibuat dan pertambahan kos.

"Pengurusan pemantauan projek juga tidak berkesan menyebabkan projek lambat disiapkan dan pembinaan kurang berkualiti," katanya.


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post Oct 22 2009, 12:20 AM

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wtf 2 unit laptop rm84000???!!!! i bet the laptop spec is crappy...

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post Oct 22 2009, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:22 AM)
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Oct 22 2009, 12:20 AM)
Now I know why MARA now freezing ALL scholarship fundings.
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Our company doing some projects with MARA.. now all terbengkalai.. who is gonna pay us the salary?! Damn this money sucking machine! mad.gif
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RM84K can buy a japanese car liao... they got brain or not?
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QUOTE(satayboy2003 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:26 AM)
MARA loan all gone?
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maybe the laptop can transform into optimus.
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QUOTE(Panadol @ Oct 22 2009, 01:28 AM)
maybe the laptop can transform into optimus.
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another one can turn into magatron.

them they f*ck each other in MARA.
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QUOTE(peewee @ Oct 22 2009, 12:28 AM)
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i heard it from other sources...
current in proccess gonna stalled!

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post Oct 22 2009, 12:32 AM

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post Oct 22 2009, 12:34 AM

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plz understand, the laptop is powered by quad core. not your pariah notebook.
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post Oct 22 2009, 12:34 AM

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how many cores?
lcd inch?
hdd?
ram ?
gc what chip?sli?cfx?

pm me best price..
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:34 AM)
plz understand, the laptop is powered by quad core. not your pariah notebook.
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the complete specs listing?
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the previous screwdrivers case has not solved yet right?
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some ppl jeles mara buy $$$ laptop, that's why. this is what is called state-of-art facility, all high tech stuff. if using pentium how to run up-to-date engineering and simulation software that use to analyze and decode dna.

this money cannot be held back and well spent. just like some institution pour money in r&d, please be considerate.
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Dun play play with this laptop you know ....

The specs damn shocking one you know ...

At least using Xeon 100Core edi .
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Oct 22 2009, 12:35 AM)
the complete specs listing?
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quad core overclk 6.66 GHz
16GB DDR2 RAM
1TB SSD HD

etc etc
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post Oct 22 2009, 12:38 AM

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>>RM84000 laptop

It has the power of three PS3s and could run Far Cry 5 at 125FPS on maximum settings.
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QUOTE(xen0 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:34 AM)
how many cores? 100 ( 99.9GhZ ) Intel LoLWut Processor . With LuLzTechnology
lcd inch? 14.5
hdd? 20TB Super-ATA
ram ? 2TB DDR-Six 99999Mhz
gc what chip?sli?cfx? X99 Intel . Sixth-SLI . Can run 100 Crysis without a hitch . Simulation program no nid say la ... kacang ....

pm me best price.. RM84000
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QUOTE(SkyNet000 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:37 AM)
Dun play play with this laptop you know ....

The specs damn shocking one you know ...

At least using Xeon 100Core edi .
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probably some advance chipset and cooling system that enable the processors overclocked 4x. no play play.....
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:38 AM)
quad core overclk 6.66 GHz
16GB DDR2 RAM
1TB SSD HD

etc etc
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what brand? phenom ah?
what branding also dunno u want to defend them
simpan ur kulit zakar lah

summore still DDR2 RAM, fukken lol

1TB SSD, u find for me lah, u stole from intel labs ah

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it can perform complex mathematical formulas such as dividing by zero.
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QUOTE(Hangmen @ Oct 22 2009, 12:38 AM)
>>RM84000 laptop

It has the power of three PS3s and could run Far Cry 5 at 125FPS on maximum settings.
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PS3 is lousy lah... it has microprocessor that can sequence genome in matter of minutes... probably 1 complete cicak in 154 seconds....

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maybe oso can render juta juta polygons in seconds that dreamworks take pains in days.....

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Oct 22 2009, 12:40 AM)
what brand? phenom ah?
what branding also dunno u want to defend them
simpan ur kulit zakar lah

summore still DDR2 RAM, fukken lol

1TB SSD, u find for me lah, u stole from intel labs ah

cool2.gif
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because the chipset cannot support ddr3 mah...... so have to downgrade a bit. but got great power overclock factor.


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amd is a trash. have to pakai jewish intel for the moment...

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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:43 AM)
because the chipset cannot support ddr3 mah...... so have to downgrade a bit. but got great power overclock factor.
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amd is a trash. have to pakai jewish intel for the moment...
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bro.. siggy extent 15 lines de...
better change it !

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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:43 AM)
because the chipset cannot support ddr3 mah...... so have to downgrade a bit. but got great power overclock factor.
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amd is a trash. have to pakai jewish intel for the moment...
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha..
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:43 AM)
because the chipset cannot support ddr3 mah...... so have to downgrade a bit. but got great power overclock factor.
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amd is a trash. have to pakai jewish intel for the moment...
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then i know the quad core u mean is Q8xxx or Q9800, these chips are crap compared to phenom ii
mana ada great overclock factor, it can burn easily by just OC it a bit rclxm9.gif


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just ridiculous.....

agak2 la nak mark up harga pon....
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is this SUPERCOMPUTER..??

so there are really superlaptop in Malaysia?? mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

MARA sucks Malaysia tax payers money... we should not have PTPTN if MARA manage the money well..

are they idiot or what!!!! vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

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QUOTE(hack3line @ Oct 22 2009, 12:49 AM)
is this SUPERCOMPUTER..??

so there are really superlaptop in Malaysia??  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

MARA sucks Malaysia tax payers money... we should not have PTPTN if MARA manage the money well..

are they idiot or what!!!!  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

@#$%^&*()_#%^&*()_@#$%^&*()_+#$%^&*()_+@#$%^&*()_+|#$%^&*()_
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Oct 22 2009, 12:48 AM)
then i know the quad core u mean is Q8xxx or Q9800, these chips are crap compared to phenom ii
mana ada great overclock factor, it can burn easily by just OC it a bit rclxm9.gif
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you think rm84000 laptop techonology anyone can buy ke? can buy on street ke? rm84000 laptop must be very powerful one - dump in current mC and improves 100x on chipsets.....
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Oct 22 2009, 12:49 AM)
is this SUPERCOMPUTER..??

so there are really superlaptop in Malaysia??  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

MARA sucks Malaysia tax payers money... we should not have PTPTN if MARA manage the money well..

are they idiot or what!!!!  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

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why angry...
there someone said it is for R&D propose !
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Oct 22 2009, 12:49 AM)
is this SUPERCOMPUTER..??

so there are really superlaptop in Malaysia??  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

MARA sucks Malaysia tax payers money... we should not have PTPTN if MARA manage the money well..

are they idiot or what!!!!  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

@#$%^&*()_#%^&*()_@#$%^&*()_+#$%^&*()_+@#$%^&*()_+|#$%^&*()_
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it's not ftec.
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:51 AM)
you think rm84000 laptop techonology anyone can buy ke? can buy on street ke? rm84000 laptop must be very powerful one - dump in current mC and improves 100x on chipsets.....
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and why only improves chipset not memory, gc n etc??? rolleyes.gif
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can claim.....
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and why only improves chipset not memory, gc n etc??? rolleyes.gif
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ir comes together lah.... you chipset if takada slot for memory than how to fit? hmm.gif and buffers ovc and stuff like that....


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lol...mcm mane supplier x overcharged....payment so late....7k project takes more than half a year to get payment....when they want those stuffs...keep pushing us..."we need to use it ASAP!!"...but when asked bout payment..."dunno..ask those finance.."...bullshit...summore...the 84k laptop...i think the actual price maybe 30k...the rest r for the person in charged...markup untuk diri sendiri...most of the staffs r like that...no wonder their live never improves..x berkat maaaa....

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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:53 AM)
ir comes together lah.... you chipset if takada slot for memory than how to fit? hmm.gif and buffers ovc and stuff like that....
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use USB to connect lo
LYN used to have USB RAM, now its realized via Vista readyboost

now gomen can invent USB chipset liao rclxms.gif

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who knows it is actually ibm trial on using photons circuitry .... .....

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gilo apo nak claim sampai 84k untuk 2 laptop....
mesti kautim dah semua org ni... tu yang jadi banyak cam tu

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QUOTE(deddo @ Oct 22 2009, 12:54 AM)
laptop ni leh main ps3 game ke
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laptop ni leh main ps3 game ke
haha doh.gif
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no problem... as long got ppl write emulator for it to convert into jewish intel language....

can even overclock 10x ps3 games,..

canggih...
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QUOTE(Panadol @ Oct 22 2009, 12:55 AM)
lecturer wan play crysis on their laptops only. rm84k dem berbaloi.
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can play crisis, turn on mp3 (if got 2nd monitor), surf /k/ and facebook. all in 1 and at 1 time.....
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:55 AM)
no problem... as long got ppl write emulator for it to convert into jewish intel language....

can even overclock 10x ps3 games,..

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no problem... as long got ppl write emulator for it to convert into jewish intel language....

can even overclock 10x ps3 games,..

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10 PS3 only rm15000, but they spent rm84k to achieve 10x PS3

overbajet, phailed
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lecturer wan play crysis on their laptops only. rm84k dem berbaloi.
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can play crisis, turn on mp3 (if got 2nd monitor), surf /k/ and facebook. all in 1 and at 1 time.....

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10 PS3 only rm15000, but they spent rm84k to achieve 10x PS3

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probably use for genome sequencing..

or computer graphic studies..

or neural network, artificial intelligence studies...

it's not those dell, acer, ftec you know. to boost in education institution reputation, i say this money is well spent...
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what da heck Acer Aspire 5052 price at RM42,000 each???

HOI MARA, LU ORANG TERLAMPAU BUTA ILMU KOMPUTER!!!

user posted image <-- this ACER 5052 one, cost RM42,000 each??

this is supercomputer iran which look like laptop but that Acer is Taiwan company!!!


let's bring MARA, ACER, TAIWAN, and Muhyiddin Yassin (Mlaaysia minister of education to court of justice!!!)

ini la natijah pemimin suka sangat baca teks, menyampah betul dengan Muhyiddin Yassin.. kalau orang tipu dia dalam teks tu pun... wa confirm 900% dia percaya bulat2... Malaysia akan hancur dipimpin Muhyiddin Yassin yang hanya tahu baca teks.. LET'S BRING THEM TO COURT OF JUSTICE! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
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u try lah do this with your pc....
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u try lah do this with your pc....
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what da heck Acer Aspire 5052 price at RM42,000 each???

HOI MARA, LU ORANG TERLAMPAU BUTA ILMU KOMPUTER!!!

user posted image <-- this ACER 5052 one, cost RM42,000 each??

this is supercomputer iran which look like laptop but that Acer is Taiwan company!!!


let's bring MARA, ACER, TAIWAN, and Muhyiddin Yassin (Mlaaysia minister of education to court of justice!!!)

ini la natijah pemimin suka sangat baca teks, menyampah betul dengan Muhyiddin Yassin.. kalau orang tipu dia dalam teks tu pun... wa confirm 900% dia percaya bulat2... Malaysia akan hancur dipimpin Muhyiddin Yassin yang hanya tahu baca teks.. LET'S BRING THEM TO COURT OF JUSTICE!  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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when kerajaan hadkan bajet for rnd you ppl scream and complain ... what lah..
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actually MARA fund come from where ar ?


UITM is sponsored by MARA izzit ?
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what da heck Acer Aspire 5052 price at RM42,000 each???

HOI MARA, LU ORANG TERLAMPAU BUTA ILMU KOMPUTER!!!

user posted image <-- this ACER 5052 one, cost RM42,000 each??

this is supercomputer iran which look like laptop but that Acer is Taiwan company!!!


let's bring MARA, ACER, TAIWAN, and Muhyiddin Yassin (Mlaaysia minister of education to court of justice!!!)

ini la natijah pemimin suka sangat baca teks, menyampah betul dengan Muhyiddin Yassin.. kalau orang tipu dia dalam teks tu pun... wa confirm 900% dia percaya bulat2... Malaysia akan hancur dipimpin Muhyiddin Yassin yang hanya tahu baca teks.. LET'S BRING THEM TO COURT OF JUSTICE!  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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i currently do it now....watching porn while listening to mp3 n surf /k/ n facebook...feel good man..
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actually MARA fund come from where ar ?
UITM is sponsored by MARA izzit ?
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aiya .... 10x ps3 is minor feature... i said it's R&D...

probably use for genome sequencing..

or computer graphic studies..

or neural network,  artificial intelligence studies...

it's not those dell, acer, ftec you know. to boost in education institution reputation, i say this money is well spent...
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well spent eh, if well spent then why Audit bising-bising?
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if 2012 is true, they will be judged infront of god by then smile.gif
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sorry lah... they do it for the country. so it's good conduct.....

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well spent eh, if well spent then why Audit bising-bising?
yeah, it's not those dell, acer, ftec that i know, it's user posted image
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wtf 2 unit laptop rm84000???!!!! i bet the laptop spec is crappy...
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"pembekalan dua unit komputer riba yang harga pasaran hanya RM9,000 "
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crysis is so 2007, nowadays ppl pay rm10000 to play this
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i can get an alienware full spec m17x... and 295 4 Piece AMD Phenom2 965..
liquid cooling.. Microsoft X6 X8.. Z5500.. HD sound cards... Iphone... Headphone AMP... Audio Technica w5k.. Blue Ray Rom.... 52" LED TV for my comp.. 500GB external Drive.... 160GB Kingston Solid State Drive... Corsair Dominator 1333 8GB....... and end with a Kancil 850cc
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you kambing to troll is it?
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i can get an alienware full spec m17x... and 295 4 Piece AMD Phenom2 965..
liquid cooling.. Microsoft X6 X8.. Z5500.. HD sound cards... Iphone... Headphone AMP... Audio Technica w5k..  Blue Ray Rom.... 52" LED TV for my comp.. 500GB external Drive.... 160GB Kingston Solid State Drive... Corsair Dominator 1333 8GB....... and end with a Kancil 850cc
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hello, 2 pentium 500Mhz processor cannot match 1 core dua 1Ghz...

in processor it's not like 1+1=2...

you orang kampung ke?
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The laptop spec is not crappy

"pembekalan dua unit komputer riba yang harga pasaran hanya RM9,000 "
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i'll buy this komputer riba for that price
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i'll buy this komputer riba for that price
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i agree.. @ that price i also can pay!
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crysis is so 2007, nowadays ppl pay rm10000 to play this
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man....that's what i call kickin ol'skool style... thumbup.gif rclxms.gif ...back to the topic...hoho...purchase 2 laptops for 80k+? better buy supercomputer then... cool2.gif
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i can get an alienware full spec m17x... and 295 4 Piece AMD Phenom2 965..
liquid cooling.. Microsoft X6 X8.. Z5500.. HD sound cards... Iphone... Headphone AMP... Audio Technica w5k..  Blue Ray Rom.... 52" LED TV for my comp.. 500GB external Drive.... 160GB Kingston Solid State Drive... Corsair Dominator 1333 8GB....... and end with a Kancil 850cc
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with that price i can get honda civic type r.....

oh wai~
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Thank you for the audit, now we can know the story.
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Thank you for the audit, now we can know the story.
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What to do, delay this and that.


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I think this laptop can fly and do Cobra maneuver.
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What to do, delay this and that.
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hello, 2 pentium 500Mhz processor cannot match 1 core dua 1Ghz...

in processor it's not like 1+1=2...

you orang kampung ke?
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84K for 2 laptop

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Imagine Microsoft wasting money like these guys. Microsoft will bankrupt already.
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wow MARA is so high tech...student grad from MARA sure high tech oso
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now, i really gonna sell thing to MARA.. i offer them RM30k
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84K for 2 laptop

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20tb hdd more cheap how about 20tb SSD harddisk? wub.gif
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QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:27 AM)
I think this laptop can fly and do Cobra maneuver.
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Is the price pre bundle with any softwares for that matter?? AutoCAD + Full Adobe Suite + Etc, etc...

Laptop Hardware itself might just costs RM4k++ plus fully upgraded - Max out RAM and Harddisk Drive + extra batteries + Mobile HDD + All additional accessories u can think of - 4k???

Software?? OS Vista Premium in box - 1k?? Antivirus Premium + 5 yrs license - 1k?? Autocad - 22k?? Office suite in box - 5k?? Full Premium Garphic Suites - 5k??

Is there anyone here who is really in the IT retail industry (Hardware & Software) who can enlighten us on how to achieve the reported figures realistically?? I just wanted to know how far fetched that figure can be from the audit done by the auditors (which I presumed non-IT literated, or don't know the actual pricing of those pre-bundle softwares).

But then again the published extorted price could be just for 2 blank laptop with pre-installed OS only. Who knows?? Is there a listed BQ of the laptops' available for viewing online or issit OSA documents??

SO many questions.... Please don't get me wrong. I'm not protecting them MARA purchasers nor am I approving them spending our hard-earned tax payer money in such horrific way but I'm just trying to put the priced items into a more idealistic perspective.
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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Oct 22 2009, 12:41 AM)
audit sahaja
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QUOTE(itchibawa kasigaru @ Oct 22 2009, 02:42 AM)
Is the price pre bundle with any softwares for that matter?? AutoCAD + Full Adobe Suite + Etc, etc...  

Laptop Hardware itself might just costs RM4k++ plus fully upgraded - Max out RAM and Harddisk Drive + extra batteries + Mobile HDD + All additional accessories u can think of - 4k???

Software?? OS Vista Premium in box - 1k?? Antivirus Premium + 5 yrs license - 1k?? Autocad - 22k?? Office suite in box - 5k?? Full Premium Garphic Suites - 5k??

Is there anyone here who is really in the IT retail industry (Hardware & Software) who can enlighten us on how to achieve the reported figures realistically?? I just wanted to know how far fetched that figure can be from the audit done by the auditors (which I presumed non-IT literated, or don't know the actual pricing of those pre-bundle softwares).

But then again the published extorted price could be just for 2 blank laptop with pre-installed OS only. Who knows?? Is there a listed BQ of the laptops' available for viewing online or issit OSA documents??

SO many questions....   Please don't get me wrong. I'm not protecting them MARA purchasers nor am I approving them spending our hard-earned tax payer money in such horrific way but I'm just trying to put the priced items into a more idealistic perspective.
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They never said software purchase, the report just mention the purchase of laptop, 2 laptops to be exact.

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This is even more disturbing and there is no way to justify this!!

Minyak petrol RM300 seliter

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Looks like someone in Penang is buying petrol at a rate totally different from us - the normal citizen. And the claims are made within minutes of each others. Anyone with the Lim Guan Eng office care to enlighten us with how to fill in such claim forms. I just wanted to learn how to do so as I'm eligible for petrol claim as well, but how to claim RM300/litre in your claim form and where do u get such a receipt printed from?? Please share la!!

Hahaha....

Trully 1Malaysia when we came to corrupt practices, it doesn't matter which race or age or political parties you are from, but 1Malaysia provides you the opportunity to drain the Rakyat Money with ease.

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QUOTE(itchibawa kasigaru @ Oct 22 2009, 02:42 AM)
Is the price pre bundle with any softwares for that matter?? AutoCAD + Full Adobe Suite + Etc, etc... 

Laptop Hardware itself might just costs RM4k++ plus fully upgraded - Max out RAM and Harddisk Drive + extra batteries + Mobile HDD + All additional accessories u can think of - 4k???

Software?? OS Vista Premium in box - 1k?? Antivirus Premium + 5 yrs license - 1k?? Autocad - 22k?? Office suite in box - 5k?? Full Premium Garphic Suites - 5k??

Is there anyone here who is really in the IT retail industry (Hardware & Software) who can enlighten us on how to achieve the reported figures realistically?? I just wanted to know how far fetched that figure can be from the audit done by the auditors (which I presumed non-IT literated, or don't know the actual pricing of those pre-bundle softwares).

But then again the published extorted price could be just for 2 blank laptop with pre-installed OS only. Who knows?? Is there a listed BQ of the laptops' available for viewing online or issit OSA documents??

SO many questions....  Please don't get me wrong. I'm not protecting them MARA purchasers nor am I approving them spending our hard-earned tax payer money in such horrific way but I'm just trying to put the priced items into a more idealistic perspective.
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There is no way MARA would be so stupid to buy expensive AutoCad software and put it on an Acer laptop.. They should buy volume licensing if they really intended to..

Its either the report is false, or there's indeed corruption in MARA's site..
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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Oct 22 2009, 04:09 AM)
There is no way MARA would be so stupid to buy expensive AutoCad software and put it on an Acer laptop.. They should buy volume licensing if they really intended to..

Its either the report is false, or there's indeed corruption in MARA's site..
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It is really funny reading your statement above - MARA is not stupid to buy expensive AutoCad software and put it on an Acer laptop.. Yet are they stupid enough to submit expenses account for 2 laptops for RM80k++??.. OR the statement above is...... or theOne writing the statement is......

Sorry, don't meant to be rude but I just couldn't help it after reading such a reply!! Again the AutoCad software was just a suggestion on how to jack up the invoice and it might not be AutoCad in the first place. Heck! That laptop might not even be able to support AutoCad in the first place but I used AutoCad as an example of "other" pre-bundle softwares that might jack up-ed the invoice. Or no software at all as I mentioned earlier!!!

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QUOTE(itchibawa kasigaru @ Oct 22 2009, 04:36 AM)
It is really funny reading your statement above - MARA is not stupid to buy expensive AutoCad software and put it on an Acer laptop.. Yet are they stupid enough to submit expenses account for 2 laptops for RM80k++??..    OR the statement above is......    or theOne writing the statement is......

Sorry, don't meant to be rude but I just couldn't help it after reading such a reply!!
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What I incline was, your suggestion about Mara include AutoCad software or such in a laptop is nonsense.. Its simply either the report is false, or if it indeed happen, its totally Mara's fault, that's it.. And if so happen Mara did include AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops, it sounds very wrong..
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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Oct 22 2009, 04:41 AM)
What I incline was, your suggestion about Mara include AutoCad software or such in a laptop is nonsense.. Its simply either the report is false, or if it indeed happen, its totally Mara's fault, that's it.. And if so happen Mara did include AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops, it sounds very wrong..
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And if so happen Mara did include AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops, it sounds very wrong.. - How do you justify installing AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops is sounding very wrong?? I'm getting more and more baffled with your comments as if you're trying to sound more and more....... Professional software doesn't comes cheap and only those who needs it can justify the purchases of it. In any case, MARA might not even know what AutoCad is in given the mentality that "they've portrait" in such purchase!

Hahaha!!

Gosh, you're making me sounding like I'm defending MARA for making such decision but please understand that I condemn corruption and corrupt practices very much. I'm just trying to make some sense in how such an amount for such asset acquisition can passed the account/finance side for approval in the first place. I'm more incline to discuss the technicality of the purchase than the morality of it. And yes, it sounded very suspicious but we could be really barking up the wrong tree mate!
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RM84K for 2 laptop, even full with professional software also wont cost that much...
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RM84K for 2 laptop, even full with professional software also wont cost that much...
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that is the curse of having very bad internet connection..

even current price of laptop also donno  doh.gif

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And if so happen Mara did include AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops, it sounds very wrong.. - How do you justify installing AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops is sounding very wrong?? I'm getting more and more baffled with your comments as if you're trying to sound more and more....... Professional software doesn't comes cheap and only those who needs it can justify the purchases of it. In any case, MARA might not even know what AutoCad is in given the mentality that "they've portrait" in such purchase!

Hahaha!!

Gosh, you're making me sounding like I'm defending MARA for making such decision but please understand that I condemn corruption and corrupt practices very much. I'm just trying to make some sense in how such an amount for such asset acquisition can passed the account/finance side for approval in the first place. I'm more incline to discuss the technicality of the purchase than the morality of it. And yes, it sounded very suspicious but we could be really barking up the wrong tree mate!
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I won't argue with you whose wrong or right.. Just some food for thought..

Even those who handles the purchase is dumb enough to know the exact price of proffesional program, doesn't the responsible person will question such huge amount or approve it blindly? There's IT department in MARA and eventhough they aren't responsible for the purchase, at very least Mara can ask their technical point of view..

And, to put it, have you ever heard of Volume Licensing?

There's no justification at all to buy professional program and put it into ONLY TWO LAPTOPS (unless for personal purpose).. So.. You can do some critical thinking on your own..

I'm done arguing.. Also, I don't say that you defending MARA, I don't even know you.. gosh..

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RM84K for 2 laptop, even full with professional software also wont cost that much...
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Another one plucking statements out of thin air. I wonder if you've bought any professional software in the first place or knew how to define software as in for professional use.

Just some simple eg. MS-SQL database with X-no. of users can costs more than those two notebooks combined. Google it up and you will know how much! And since you're at it, please look out for CADCAM/AUTOCAD software prices too, and not forgotten Desktop Publishing Software/Graphical Software as well, etc. etc. etc.

Like I says in my comment earlier, there might not be even a single software installed in the laptops in the first place. Just simply jacking up the prices by plucking the figures out of thin air!!!

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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Oct 22 2009, 05:19 AM)
I won't argue with you whose wrong or right.. Just some food for thought..

Even those who handles the purchase is dumb enough to know the exact price of proffesional program, doesn't the responsible person will question such huge amount or approve it blindly? There's IT department in MARA and eventhough they aren't responsible for the purchase, at very least Mara can ask their technical point of view..

And, to put it, have you ever heard of Volume Licensing?

There's no justification at all to buy professional program and put it into ONLY TWO LAPTOPS (unless for personal purpose).. So.. You can do some critical thinking on your own..

I'm done arguing.. Also, I don't say that you defending MARA, I don't even know you.. gosh..
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Please don't get mad at me for continuing questioning your point of views but it is somewhat educational in ways that I have not thought of or some facts that I didn't know at all. Again quoting you on Volume Licensing and justification on buying professional program to put into ONLY TWO Laptops, what if the situation arises only for the setting up of ONLY TWO such Laptops, say for 2 new personnels who just joined them and who has the needs for them? Volume Licensing does it applies to 2 licenses (like I say, I really don't know how many to justify Volume Puchases) or will it be better off buying 2 separate Single licenses because the situation only calls for the setting up of ONLY TWO such Laptops or you will do it otherwise by buying Volume Licensing (ie. for 5 users or more) even if the needs is only for TWO?? (maybe it is considered cheaper by buying volume for future needs but then again will it be obsolete if kept too long, and again the end-price might ballooned up 2 or 3 or 4 times more when we buy and store)

As you can see, I have applied critical thought on this but still lacking the actual facts there are. If you do have a copy of the BQ for the requisition and it is non-OSA, could you please post it up here to further justifying your comments or our disagreements. Maybe you could well help lightened the work of our MACC by supplying all the questionable doubts there are. The only real fact here is that I don't know how or what has been bundle in the invoice of that purchase in order for it to make it thru requisition in the first place. Hope there's no heart feeling, I'm just playing "devil advocate"!!
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And Dear fenzodahl512,

Something else for you to ponder on too....
-- HOW TO JUSTIFY PETROL RM300/litre in EXPENSE CLAIM??

Petrol RM300 per litre

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Hahahaaha, now this is truly a joke!! 1Malaysia BOLEH
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MARA procurement: u can recommend 2 gud laptops to me leh? tat laptop iz use for microsoft word, chatting, and play dota in office.
Seller: ya.. i suggest u tis laptop vely gud wan..
MARA: how much tis wan?
Seller: for gov agency iz got special price.. wait arr.. aaaa 9k onli.. vely the cheap
MARA: err ok... *psst.. u can include prawn until full hard disk meh? brows.gif
Seller: tat wan i charge higher, 90k lorrr
MARA: alarr cannot cheaper a bit lehh? my bos give me budget till 85k for two laptop onli..
Seller: ok lorr is sell u tis 2 with full prawn RM84,640 lahh
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huhuhu, maybe the laptop is using intel core i9 x3, gtx 395 4-way sli and got 3d screen.....
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QUOTE(fral @ Oct 22 2009, 07:59 AM)
In a shop at lowyat

MARA procurement: u can recommend 2 gud laptops to me leh? tat laptop iz use for microsoft word, chatting, and play dota in office.
Seller: ya.. i suggest u tis laptop vely gud wan..
MARA: how much tis wan?
Seller: for gov agency iz got special price.. wait arr.. aaaa 9k onli.. vely the cheap
MARA: err ok... *psst.. u can include prawn until full hard disk meh? brows.gif
Seller: tat wan i charge higher, 90k lorrr
MARA: alarr cannot cheaper a bit lehh? my bos give me budget till 85k for two laptop onli..
Seller: ok lorr is sell u tis 2 with full prawn RM84,640 lahh

MARA : Later we bahagi the money sama rata, okay?
Seller : Okay, bos. That's why I really like to have a business with government agency.

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Another RM 50 screwdriver case. The BIG Question is "Will anyone head will roll and any action will be taken?

Btw. I can already get 2 MAC for less.

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QUOTE(itchibawa kasigaru @ Oct 22 2009, 06:39 AM)
Please don't get mad at me for continuing questioning your point of views but it is somewhat educational in ways that I have not thought of or some facts that I didn't know at all. Again quoting you on Volume Licensing and justification on buying professional program to put into ONLY TWO Laptops, what if the situation arises only for the setting up of ONLY TWO such Laptops, say for 2 new personnels who just joined them and who has the needs for them? Volume Licensing does it applies to 2 licenses (like I say, I really don't know how many to justify Volume Puchases) or will it be better off buying 2 separate Single licenses because the situation only calls for the setting up of ONLY TWO such Laptops or you will do it otherwise by buying Volume Licensing (ie. for 5 users or more) even if the needs is only for TWO?? (maybe it is considered cheaper by buying volume for future needs but then again will it be obsolete if kept too long, and again the end-price might ballooned up 2 or 3 or 4 times more when we buy and store)

As you can see, I have applied critical thought on this but still lacking the actual facts there are. If you do have a copy of the BQ for the requisition and it is non-OSA, could you please post it up here to further justifying your comments or our disagreements. Maybe you could well help lightened the work of our MACC by supplying all the questionable doubts there are. The only real fact here is that I don't know how or what has been bundle in the invoice of that purchase in order for it to make it thru requisition in the first place. Hope there's no heart feeling, I'm just playing "devil advocate"!!
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if it is a one of thing perhaps id say you have a point, but then again such cases are not rare and far between. you might be tad naive to justify it when it is public knowledge that such events do happen.

its really simple, ask any business man who deals with the government and he would tell you the same story.

sickeningly inflated prices for something thats normal
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42k laptop sure sound superb laptop
maybe full of cad soft complete 3d soft and others engineering soft
plus mayb proc sure super fast la need to run all that soft
and the GC sure super fast2 one
no wander 42k per laptop

but if cap ayam laptop dem u maderfaker mara corupt officer
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I am beginning to wonder, are all government agencies and GLCs really should be classified as Non-Profit-Organisation!!
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actually its not only the government, its the middlemen that inflates such prices then use it on the government. basically its the people and the government that supports this.

its part of our system, "protecting" malays and all. which in reality is just siphoning people out of the market and allowing a small few to monopolize the middle men market through corruption and some malpractices. i can be as simple as datuk A gives B a contract due to relationship and then B abuses it.
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actually its not only the government, its the middlemen that inflates such prices then use it on the government. basically its the people and the government that supports this.

its part of our system, "protecting" malays and all. which in reality is just siphoning people out of the market and allowing a small few to monopolize the middle men market through corruption and some malpractices. i can be as simple as datuk A gives B a contract due to relationship and then B abuses it.
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RM 84K can setup a lab oredi... which consist 30 Desktop, a projector and network....

Maresia need ICAC....
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What is RM 84,000 to mara?

They have wasted BILLIONS already, man !

Have you been to the mara facilities? If you have, you would know what type of equipments they have there, and they are GATHERING DUST !!!

Equipments that costs BILLIONS and they just sit there, gathering dust
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RM 84K can setup a lab oredi... which consist 30 Desktop, a projector and network....

Maresia need ICAC....
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kite ada MACC ! lagi baik ! lagi seronok ! lagi best !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Laptop said = Acer Aspire-5052ANWXMI

Check out the review of the laptop
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RM 42k for that laptop???? wow.. i bet MARA finance dept is damn pro...

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no, it can onli make 1

old selangor fags i mean... feds has white gajah ploject that cost similar pricing

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QUOTE(itchibawa kasigaru @ Oct 22 2009, 05:06 AM)
And if so happen Mara did include AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops, it sounds very wrong.. - How do you justify installing AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops is sounding very wrong?? I'm getting more and more baffled with your comments as if you're trying to sound more and more....... Professional software doesn't comes cheap and only those who needs it can justify the purchases of it. In any case, MARA might not even know what AutoCad is in given the mentality that "they've portrait" in such purchase!

Hahaha!!

Gosh, you're making me sounding like I'm defending MARA for making such decision but please understand that I condemn corruption and corrupt practices very much. I'm just trying to make some sense in how such an amount for such asset acquisition can passed the account/finance side for approval in the first place. I'm more incline to discuss the technicality of the purchase than the morality of it. And yes, it sounded very suspicious but we could be really barking up the wrong tree mate!
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I don't know what are you trying to justify the expenses of Rm84k for the purchase of 2 lappy.

The argument of inclusive so call professional software or AUTOCAD really a big smack on your own face. Either you are questioning the credibility of the auditor or yourself have a very low IQ.

For the purchase of equipment, everyone can make easy comparison between market price and quoted price. For me if there is fluctuation between 1%~5% is still acceptable but the auditor's report writtten the price paid is about 1000% more than market price. We only can question the auditor credibility after MARA give strong and solid evidence to justify the price paid for the 2 lappy.

2ndly, using professional/commercial software to be inclusive into the same quotation is the most unprofessional ethics.
REASON :
1. Once it is inclusive into the hardware price, who going to give the software after sales support?The hardware supplier have to give this service instead of software maker. So again the hardware supplier jack up the software price again. (smart way to make more cut-throat $$$ with no responsibility in sense)
2. I checked the spec of the lappy
sos kicap :
http://www.laptopviews.com/acer-laptops/ac...-anwxmi-laptop/
the IGP definate can't support the AUTOCAD program smoothly. If use for education or presentation purpose, it will be phailed
[in this case, that add 1 more reason y MARAs' grad so unemployable]
3. Software security greatly compromised. If really the $$$ is spent for the software, who would control the software's license?Having a retail license means I can resale the program to 3rd party. BTW the software license is belong to government. Getting the volume licensing policy is much more better in cost and software control. But then this license policy is only provided by software maker. If the hardware supplier can quote this license policy into their quotation, I believe its violate the business rights.

Now I start to understand the "1Malaysia" thingy.
It is just a propaganda to ensure all Malaysia to have 1digit IQ




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tapi kite ade !!

kite ada MACC ! lagi baik ! lagi seronok ! lagi best !!!!!!!!!!!!
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MACC can do
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Oct 22 2009, 11:55 AM)
I don't know what are you trying to justify the expenses of Rm84k for the purchase of 2 lappy.

The argument of inclusive so call professional software or AUTOCAD really a big smack on your own face. Either you are questioning the credibility of the auditor or yourself have a very low IQ.

For the purchase of equipment, everyone can make easy comparison between market price and quoted price. For me if there is fluctuation between 1%~5% is still acceptable but the auditor's report writtten the price paid is about 1000% more than market price. We only can question the auditor credibility after MARA give strong and solid evidence to justify the price paid for the 2 lappy.

2ndly, using professional/commercial software to be inclusive into the same quotation is the most unprofessional ethics.
REASON :
1. Once it is inclusive into the hardware price, who going to give the software after sales support?The hardware supplier have to give this service instead of software maker. So again the hardware supplier jack up the software price again. (smart way to make more cut-throat $$$ with no responsibility in sense)
2. I checked the spec of the lappy
sos kicap :
http://www.laptopviews.com/acer-laptops/ac...-anwxmi-laptop/
the IGP definate can't support the AUTOCAD program smoothly. If use for education or presentation purpose, it will be phailed
[in this case, that add 1 more reason y MARAs' grad so unemployable]
3. Software security greatly compromised. If really the $$$ is spent for the software, who would control the software's license?Having a retail license means I can resale the program to 3rd party. BTW the software license is belong to government. Getting the volume licensing policy is much more better in cost and software control. But then this license policy is only provided by software maker. If the hardware supplier can quote this license policy into their quotation, I believe its violate the business rights.

Now I start to understand the "1Malaysia" thingy.
It is just a propaganda to ensure all Malaysia to have 1digit IQ
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please lah. the way you argue is so stupid that i lol....

so what if the supplier bundle with software together, it makes his sservice outstand its competitor, that's why mara chose this supplier. if you have windows+office+autocad+3d studio max + photoshop ~ 48k, it worths the monay man....
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A laptop that makes coffee!

And irons your cloths too!
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it is not a laptop.. it is a supercomputer d.. wonder who supplying it? which company? any1 care to korek?
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A laptop that makes coffee!

And irons your cloths too!
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we already have laptop like that....it is called women and cheaper than 84K
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QUOTE(tomcruise014 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:07 PM)
i think if they really have original software included
it suppose to use EDUCATIONAL license, it is DEFINITELY MUCH CHEAPER than real commercial license
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educational version is stupid..

just like orcad and autocad. you gun for max if you want to master the skill, not half bucket one....

no wonder lah it';s 48k, and it's worth spent. mara finally open its eyes to invest more on R&D. syabas!
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QUOTE(mrhulk @ Oct 22 2009, 12:07 PM)
we already have laptop like that....it is called women and cheaper than 84K
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I doubt its cheaper

You forgot One time fee and monthly payment
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QUOTE(tomcruise014 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:07 PM)
i think if they really have original software included
it suppose to use EDUCATIONAL license, it is DEFINITELY MUCH CHEAPER than real commercial license
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agreed..

if all the packages makes the price rm84,000, audit negara wouldnt giv a damn to ask...

they should get cheaper AFAIK...dis is obviously overpriced...


remember IKBN case...???

cheap screw driver bought at RM2** pricetag...???

same old, same old.... doh.gif
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agreed..

if all the packages makes the price rm84,000, audit negara wouldnt giv a damn to ask...

they should get cheaper AFAIK...dis is obviously overpriced...
remember IKBN case...???

cheap screw driver bought at RM2** pricetag...???

same old, same old.... doh.gif
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obviously? it is indeed overpriced!!! 4.2k in investment and the result is crappy laptop with crappy spec.

those peeps must have their brains in their pen*s; they can't really think unless blood being pumped, and when blood being pumped, they can't think straight!!!
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:04 PM)
please lah. the way you argue is so stupid that i lol....

so what if the supplier bundle with software together, it makes his sservice outstand its competitor, that's why mara chose this supplier. if you have windows+office+autocad+3d studio max + photoshop ~ 48k, it worths the monay man....
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Give me one company who can supply all the above software (OS not included)you mention.
Please no pirate/bootleg version. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:12 PM)
agreed..

if all the packages makes the price rm84,000, audit negara wouldnt giv a damn to ask...

they should get cheaper AFAIK...dis is obviously overpriced...
remember IKBN case...???

cheap screw driver bought at RM2** pricetag...???

same old, same old.... doh.gif
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we need to wait the answer from mara side...
we dunno what inside the laptop...
even the auditor just talking the value of computer but not giving any specification detail...
and what the purpose of that laptop... (oh yeah.. autocad really expensive.. few years ago... my company bought it around RM40k)

for IKBN, or a lot of gov project... got many problem inside especialy not under monitoring by auditor / jkr
u see... like the collapse school lab... its not under profesional monitoring but under ministry..
wth ministry know the standard when build a building... thats JKR job.. let they do their job...
and pls dun say the current gov now suck... u never see what pkr did at selangor... they suck too..
when current gov rules selangor, u need to give..
pkr rules sel... lol.. still need to give...
so.. both suck...

sometime... the officer that take care the contract thinggy not sensitive with current situation/their background not related with the contract... lets say 1 of forummer here sit at Mara and his job to approve the contract that related with the computer thinggy... do u think the contractor easyly cheat him... kehkehekhe... unless he want his part...
everybbody now want to use honda/toyota... who cares proton (accept low income people or no choice)..
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p/s : do blast my opinion, not my personal.. we are learning, sharing and loving but not warring...
the other things that i think a lot of malaysian have a bad habit... they can't accept criticm... sweat.gif

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Give me one company who can supply all the above software (OS not included)you mention.
Please no pirate/bootleg version.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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i'm not work in equipment or it so i donno. but sure these "value added services" provided by suppliers out there who are fighting nail and tooth for contracts.....

you don be creative and think out of box, you lose business, heard of this maxim ....
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:09 PM)
educational version is stupid..

just like orcad and autocad. you gun for max if you want to master the skill, not half bucket one....

no wonder lah it';s 48k, and it's worth spent. mara finally open its eyes to invest more on R&D. syabas!
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wow, so educational version is just half bucket...

and audit negara didnt know dat...

and yeah....R&D....put all that heavy software inside the 2 crappy laptop...

sooo R&D....brilliant...and even audit negara didnt know dat...

SYABAS MARA.....!!!

& SYABAS oso to u, bilabong...!!!

ps: & we still didnt know wat is the packages included in the RM84k worth of 2 lappy...if ure clean, why not just explain it briefly...???

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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:38 PM)
i'm not work in equipment or it so i donno. but sure these "value added services" provided by suppliers out there who are fighting nail and tooth for contracts.....

you don be creative and think out of box, you lose business, heard of this maxim ....
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This is the problem of 1Malaysia

said it is VAS

but when gomen implement VAT

everyone fart.............. (TBC)
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:38 PM)
i'm not work in equipment or it so i donno. but sure these "value added services" provided by suppliers out there who are fighting nail and tooth for contracts.....

you don be creative and think out of box, you lose business, heard of this maxim ....
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value added? running those stuff in crappy laptop is like trying to carry an elephant using beca.

which idiot would get that kind of equipment in the 1st place?

OH WAI-
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 22 2009, 12:44 PM)
value added? running those stuff in crappy laptop is like trying to carry an elephant using beca.

which idiot would get that kind of equipment in the 1st place?

OH WAI-
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 22 2009, 12:44 PM)
value added? running those stuff in crappy laptop is like trying to carry an elephant using beca.

which idiot would get that kind of equipment in the 1st place?

OH WAI-
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crappy? you must be joking... the laptop is different from the specs on the catalog (must be the extreme type) and that's why it's worth that money....

probably 1TB SSD, 16GB DDR2 RAM, dquad core overclock, etc etc
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:49 PM)
crappy? you must be joking... the laptop is different from the specs on the catalog (must be the extreme type) and that's why it's worth that money....

probably 1TB SSD, 16GB DDR2 RAM, dquad core overclock, etc etc
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Are you kididng ? how big is that laptop donna be ?
somemore how carry ? If RnD n no needed to carry around why bother with a laptop ...
alienware and voodoopc laptop maybe ? But they don't make those monster price laptop anymore,
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QUOTE(wch5274 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:38 PM)
we need to wait the answer from mara side...
we dunno what inside the laptop...
even the auditor just talking the value of computer but not giving any specification detail...
and what the purpose of that laptop... (oh yeah.. autocad really expensive.. few years ago... my company bought it around RM40k)

for IKBN, or a lot of gov project... got many problem inside especialy not under monitoring by auditor / jkr
u see... like the collapse school lab... its not under profesional monitoring but under ministry..
wth ministry know the standard when build a building... thats JKR job.. let they do their job...
and pls dun say the current gov now suck... u never see what pkr did at selangor... they suck too..
when current gov rules selangor, u need to give..
pkr rules sel... lol.. still need to give...
so.. both suck...

sometime... the officer that take care the contract thinggy not sensitive with current situation/their background not related with the contract... lets say 1 of forummer here sit at Mara and his job to approve the contract that related with the computer thinggy... do u think the contractor easyly cheat him... kehkehekhe... unless he want his part...
everybbody now want to use honda/toyota... who cares proton (accept low income people or no choice)..
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p/s : do blast my opinion, not my personal.. we are learning, sharing and loving but not warring...
the other things that i think a lot of malaysian have a bad habit... they can't accept criticm...  sweat.gif
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agreed...

im no BN nor PR side...

im in rakyat side...
hell if sombody says current gov is ok...sucks oso, just not as bad as previous..

dats wat i mean...audit ask, u explain..not like audit ask, u settle diam2 kat luar, then ask press to STFU...
like IKBN case, wats the story now...??? shh.....just like usual...
its easy to calm people like me...
just explain it briefly, wats up wit the price...?? wat are the specs, the packages include, the vas, etc2...
i know certain software are very pricy...so, wat are the softwares dat MARA bought wit the lappy...??? dats the question...

nowadays, people gets very sensitive wit gov's purchasing...
not all the purchasing got prob, but because of certain people making money in gov sect, habis rosak susu sebelanga...

ps: MARA is good, oni the people inside make it bad name...
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tolonglah faham , laptop tu pakai intel core i7 dan 9000TB harddisk dan 9000TB Ram , tak macam laptop kamu yang lain...sampah
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:49 PM)
crappy? you must be joking... the laptop is different from the specs on the catalog (must be the extreme type) and that's why it's worth that money....

probably 1TB SSD, 16GB DDR2 RAM, dquad core overclock, etc etc
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haha...!!

yeah....i just know dat acer got special laptop dat hav special specs...

hey, they can even hav special oc quad proc, in laptop...!!! an oc proc inside laptop...!!

damn...!!!

i want one..!!!

ps: damn u brilliant, bilabong....!!! thumbup.gif
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this is only small part of it.

People, pls accept the fact that corruption will still there, disregard race, gender, position, political party, etc. It's the greed of human nature.
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:58 PM)
tolonglah faham , laptop tu pakai intel core i7 dan 9000TB harddisk dan 9000TB Ram , tak macam laptop kamu yang lain...sampah
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itu mau tipu pakcik2 kat dalam hutan boleh la..
org skrg suma sudah pandai la..
sumer dah kenal apa itu Alienware, apa itu Acer
rakyat tak suka ditipu...

(pandai buat kecoh pun ramai jgk la)
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 22 2009, 12:44 PM)
value added? running those stuff in crappy laptop is like trying to carry an elephant using beca.

which idiot would get that kind of equipment in the 1st place?

OH WAI-
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how we know that laptop are crappy...
we dun know right...
n dun forget... even the old pentium4 can run thats stuff...
only processing time taken make its different with new lappy

p/s : my company still use IBM laptop for autocad.... cry.gif
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QUOTE(wch5274 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:02 PM)
how we know that laptop are crappy...
we dun know right...
n dun forget... even the old pentium4 can run thats stuff...
only processing time taken make its different with new lappy

p/s : my company still use IBM laptop for autocad....  cry.gif
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yosh..

in lot of tech freaks term..
CAN RUN mean..
can use that kind of program without the user have to scratch their head, bit their finger, smack the keyboard etc etc.
waiting to its finish their job..

and a 42k system "must run" most of software blazing fast..


Added on October 22, 2009, 1:12 pmP4 still fast?

try open a browser loading 4-6 tab webpage
loading youtube etc..
if u can handle ur self.. without any stress
u can apply for work with MARA rite now..

This post has been edited by salimbest83: Oct 22 2009, 01:12 PM
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user posted image
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wooo....

must put |sample| or |contoh| on dat...

nanti polis cari sama u woo...
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:09 PM)
yosh..

in lot of tech freaks term..
CAN RUN mean..
can use that kind of program without the user have to scratch their head, bit their finger, smack the keyboard etc etc.
waiting to its finish their job..

and a 42k system "must run" most of software blazing fast..


Added on October 22, 2009, 1:12 pmP4 still fast?

try open a browser loading 4-6 tab webpage
loading youtube etc..
if u can handle ur self.. without any stress
u can apply for work with MARA rite now..
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how we know that laptop are crappy...
we dun know right...
n dun forget... even the old pentium4 can run thats stuff...
only processing time taken make its different with new lappy

p/s : my company still use IBM laptop for autocad....

do read my old post before hitting me...

p/s : now i also can't accept criticm... biggrin.gif
what to do... im also local... tongue.gif
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Now u know why people dont want to pay back their MARA and PTPTN loan.
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QUOTE(wch5274 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:23 PM)
how we know that laptop are crappy...
we dun know right...
n dun forget... even the old pentium4 can run thats stuff...
only processing time taken make its different with new lappy

p/s : my company still use IBM laptop for autocad.... 

do read my old post before hitting me...

p/s : now i also can't accept criticm...  biggrin.gif
what to do... im also local...  tongue.gif
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Your job can claim OT? brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Oct 22 2009, 01:28 PM)
Your job can claim OT?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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thats the good thing using old stuff running advance software... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Gamerz_Paradise @ Oct 22 2009, 10:40 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Laptop said = Acer Aspire-5052ANWXMI

Check out the review of the laptop
Source Review

RM 42k for that laptop???? wow.. i bet MARA finance dept is damn pro...
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The quoted price said also Rs. 46,999, MARA got it cheaper
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QUOTE(tomcruise014 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:30 PM)
this is good excuse.. haha


Added on October 22, 2009, 1:31 pmor bagi alasan.. tunggu kerajaan jadi 'bersih' dulu baru mau bayar.. lulz
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Borrowers have always felt this way. I mean they can just burn money, so why should borrowers pay back?
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The quoted price said also Rs. 46,999, MARA got it cheaper
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it's Rs28,271 u dum dum...

proof

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Borrowers have always felt this way. I mean they can just burn money, so why should borrowers pay back?
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do u make a loan with ptptn?
recently i got a letter inform me that i need to pay RM4xx.... or they will sue me or not allowed me fly outside..
i pay them every month... and still say im not paying them starting this year...
wth they are doing.... i already 2 years never receive any ptptn loan statement...
already email and call... nothing...

i like MARA... if we do honest with them, they'll negotiate with us..
during my jobless time, just inform them then they tell me, u pay if u can afford it..
if not pay later till u get new job..
n u can pay them RM20 still they accept it... PTPTN???.. u pay RM20, ur interest already RM56/month..
so ur loan increase....

however im still paying both are them... im a borrower and i know my responsibility...
but for ptptn, i tak halal duit interest tuh even u said its for management thinggy...
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 22 2009, 01:42 PM)
it's Rs28,271 u dum dum...

proof
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With value added software included = Rs. 46,999
very reasonable oledi
u think ringgit malaysia roda lembu keh?

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The laptop runs on

4x Intel Athlon i9000 Mobile processor ( soft modded by johnkor to enable AMD PowerNow technology on Intel processor 9.99Ghz each (which makes it up to 32 processors - 16 real and 16 virtual processors)
1EB HDD (Solid State Drive) x 2 (RAID)
32GB DDR5 RAM (OC'able)
Graphics is powered by ATI GeForce 9999XTS 12GB GDDR10
Super long life battery powered by nuclear energy (lasts up to ∞) (your battery life just sucks , this gives you unlimited battery life , that means you can game on the go)
Other notable stuff : Internet2Go - you can enjoy blazing speeds up to 100000Mbps !

I don't see why not
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QUOTE(prasys @ Oct 22 2009, 01:48 PM)
The laptop runs on

4x Intel Athlon i9000 Mobile processor ( soft modded by johnkor to enable AMD PowerNow technology on Intel processor 9.99Ghz each (which makes it up to 32 processors - 16 real and 16 virtual processors)
1EB HDD (Solid State Drive) x 2 (RAID)
32GB DDR5 RAM (OC'able)
Graphics is powered by ATI GeForce 9999XTS 12GB GDDR10
Super long life battery powered by nuclear energy (lasts up to ∞) (your battery life just sucks , this gives you unlimited battery life , that means you can game on the go)
Other notable stuff : Internet2Go - you can enjoy blazing speeds up to 100000Mbps !

I don't see why not
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imma c*m playing dotard with this...

OH WAI-

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QUOTE(wch5274 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:23 PM)
how we know that laptop are crappy...
we dun know right...
n dun forget... even the old pentium4 can run thats stuff...
only processing time taken make its different with new lappy

p/s : my company still use IBM laptop for autocad.... 

do read my old post before hitting me...

p/s : now i also can't accept criticm...  biggrin.gif
what to do... im also local...  tongue.gif
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aik..
marah nampak..

u gov supporter ke ?
or just happen to work wif them.
okay la..


"sorry sir..
i cant complete ur application today..
can u come back tomorrow..
my PC is so damm slow..bocz someone oredy bought a super fast lappy with our budget"


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The guy who approve this amount of purchase is pure stupid, really show 1Malaysia smile.gif
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That DAP guy, Lim Guan Eng?
yeah lah before Pakatan wins, Penang never has corruption.
Now sampai $300 a litter petrol

Pasal DAP, IMalaysia suffers
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Maybe the laptop made from titanium kot...
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QUOTE(prasys @ Oct 22 2009, 01:48 PM)
The laptop runs on

4x Intel Athlon i9000 Mobile processor ( soft modded by johnkor to enable AMD PowerNow technology on Intel processor 9.99Ghz each (which makes it up to 32 processors - 16 real and 16 virtual processors)
1EB HDD (Solid State Drive) x 2 (RAID)
32GB DDR5 RAM (OC'able)
Graphics is powered by ATI GeForce 9999XTS 12GB GDDR10
Super long life battery powered by nuclear energy (lasts up to ∞) (your battery life just sucks , this gives you unlimited battery life , that means you can game on the go)
Other notable stuff : Internet2Go - you can enjoy blazing speeds up to 100000Mbps !

I don't see why not
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you forgot to add

The design of airflow is using Ferrari + BMW cross technology, with Recycle-able Dry-ice Cooling system so therefore enables you to Run the PC without any heat problems, and also can act as a air-conditioner since it is powered by recycleable nuclear tech where you won't complain there is no air-cond in where-u are, it has also anti-condensing technology, so therefore you won't end up sticking your face on top of the LCD while sleeping on a a.k.a cold and easy Laptop

each and every keyboard buttons are made from titanium alloy, therefore fully cooling effects can be given all the time, and inspired by italian designers., touchpads can be remodified into a hand-held joystick plus speed controller and others that enables you to control a MiG inside the aircraft carrier nearby to do a bombings to each and every states you like (in real life)

i don't see why not it's worth up to RM84000
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Oct 22 2009, 02:22 PM)
That DAP guy, Lim Guan Eng?
yeah lah before Pakatan wins, Penang never has corruption.
Now sampai $300 a litter petrol

Pasal DAP, IMalaysia suffers
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You really think when DAP wins over Penang they bring their whole battalion of civil servant to Penang? Those corrupt bureaucrats and civil servants are there since the era of Sukun.

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We can laugh all we want...

Call them stupid, idiot, no brain, etc...

Ultimately, who do you think gets screwed?

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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:51 AM)
it's not ftec.
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belilah barangan buatan msia
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QUOTE(rayz1031 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:08 PM)
You really think when DAP wins over Penang they bring their whole battalion of civil servant to Penang? Those corrupt bureaucrats and civil servants are there since the era of Sukun.
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AGREED...
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:55 PM)
AGREED...
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QUOTE(darreinz @ Oct 22 2009, 03:56 PM)
10000x agreed
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wanna start a poll??
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:58 PM)
wanna start a poll??
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coool.....
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why post all these news if no ones at the top kena prosecuted or jail ??????
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Because they can?
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post Oct 22 2009, 04:48 PM

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maybe buy 2 laptop free rm80k kfc voucher
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 22 2009, 04:09 PM)
why post all these news if no ones at the top kena prosecuted or jail ??????
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to lets us know the truth la
not that ppl that just know to say..

"ur order sir" or
"work..work..work". icon_idea.gif

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Acer claims Aspire 5738DG as its first 3D laptop, we worry over the future of things

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3D theaters? Okay, that's acceptable. 3D HDTVs? Sure, go ahead and waste your dollars inventing something that no one's asking for. But 3D laptops? We're pretty sure the line was somewhere back there, and now it's been decidedly crossed. Acer's Aspire 5738DG (not to be confused with the two-dee Aspire 5738PG) is the company's first portable machine to utilize its 3D CineReal technology, which is little more than a "3D coating" on the display that gives off mind-bending effects when viewed with a pair of polarized eyeglasses. The 2D-to-3D conversion takes place thanks to the bundled TriDef 3D Experience software (meaning that no special GPU is needed), and while we are told that the rig will be based around a Centrino 2 platform with up to 4GB of RAM, the only other information we're given is a NZ$1,999 ($1,484) price tag. Now, if only we could decide if laughing or crying would be the appropriate reaction here...


http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/acer-cl...-we-worry-over/

(2.2GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM, and ATI Radeon HD 4570 graphics).
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2354515,00.asp




Price is just RM 5k for a 3d laptop.
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:55 PM)
AGREED...
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QUOTE(darreinz @ Oct 22 2009, 03:56 PM)
10000x agreed
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incompetent is incompetent. shit is shit...

before mac 2008 penang is steady, healthy and prosperity state... after mac 2008 jenayah menjadi jadi, korupsi menjadi jadi, orang tak ada rumah menjadi jadi, papa kedana menjadi jadi... apa apa buruk menjadi jadi...
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petronas 1 day generates how much money...this small amount u guys are crying like sissies
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Oct 22 2009, 02:22 PM)
yeah lah before Pakatan wins, Penang never has corruption.
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How do you know Penang never has corruption during the previos administration? Things we do not know =/= fact.
I bet there were tons and tons of corruption cases prior to that, but only were not exposed.
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 11:15 PM)
incompetent is incompetent. shit is shit...

before mac 2008 penang is steady, healthy and prosperity state... after mac 2008 jenayah menjadi jadi, korupsi menjadi jadi, orang tak ada rumah menjadi jadi, papa kedana menjadi jadi... apa apa buruk menjadi jadi...
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Steady maybe, healthy failed (look at how many years they spend on Sungai Pinang and the river keeps getting worse), prosperity what is that (as Singapore Sr Minister said, there's NO progress in 30 years)
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Oct 23 2009, 01:06 AM)
Steady maybe, healthy failed (look at how many years they spend on Sungai Pinang and the river keeps getting worse), prosperity what is that (as Singapore Sr Minister said, there's NO progress in 30 years)
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xder exp la ..
budak2 kecik lagi..
kena la ada org 'show how to do'..
its better than keep BN doing the bad job, overusing ppl money since 1957..
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lulz if Penang was "steady, healthy and prosperity state", the city would have surpassed KL in terms of development.

But it isn't. Not even close.

Failsauce anyone?
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2 laptops also can discuss 12 pages thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Syphon @ Oct 23 2009, 07:35 AM)
2 laptops also can discuss 12 pages thumbup.gif
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12 not enuf..
its should be 83k pages..@ 1 buck per page
lets this thread alive
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MACC must investigate Penang CM, Lim Guan Eng, hope he won't suicide
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Oct 23 2009, 11:27 AM)
MACC must investigate Penang CM, Lim Guan Eng, hope he won't suicide
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how the heaven u can relate MARA with Lim? blink.gif
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The 2 laptop is from Acer??
Maybe not, and what they bought is something like this shown in the video. biggrin.gif



Then MARA campus would be damn cool man! Full of transformer... thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Oct 23 2009, 11:31 AM)
how the heaven u can relate MARA with Lim?  blink.gif
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Why his official car change new tayar every week?
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Oct 23 2009, 11:27 AM)
MACC must investigate Penang CM, Lim Guan Eng, hope he won't suicide
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MACC should check Ali Rustam first whistling.gif whistling.gif

QUOTE(Kinitos @ Oct 23 2009, 11:36 AM)
Why his official car change new tayar every week?
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Ada sauce? No sauce GTFO.
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if u ever work with Gov, u will know what is their rule in purchasing.
They must get a quotation from a registered local company with BUMI status. Normally the price from the quotation is higher than the market price as the company will markup the price. The one of the reasoning is that it's slow to get the $ from a local order. and there is some other reason.... *imagine urself*
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QUOTE(hkhk @ Oct 25 2009, 07:11 PM)
if u ever work with Gov, u will know what is their rule in purchasing.
They must get a quotation from a registered local company with BUMI status. Normally the price from the quotation is higher than the market price as the company will markup the price. The one of the reasoning is that it's slow to get the $ from a local order. and there is some other reason.... *imagine urself*
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well, half correct. purchases under rm 500k must from bumi status companies, unless there is none. tenders above rm 500k, can get quotation from non-bumi companies. The quotes are normally higher than market price coz they are not paid in cash.

MARA has long been a 'lubok' for cronies companies to make money. MACC have been going to MARA to investigate, but intervention from politicians is way MACC is unsuccesful to nab many of those who are involved
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QUOTE(hkhk @ Oct 25 2009, 07:11 PM)
if u ever work with Gov, u will know what is their rule in purchasing.
They must get a quotation from a registered local company with BUMI status. Normally the price from the quotation is higher than the market price as the company will markup the price. The one of the reasoning is that it's slow to get the $ from a local order. and there is some other reason.... *imagine urself*
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Markup the price also, it shouldn't be 1000% than the market price isn't it? Simply way too much!
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QUOTE(yhoong @ Oct 26 2009, 10:31 AM)
Markup the price also, it shouldn't be 1000% than the market price isn't it? Simply way too much!
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Don't you know? NEP menhalalkan rasuah. As long as the money is goes into a bumiputra pocket it's all ok. RM10 mouse sell to government as RM100 mouse. No problem.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 25 2009, 08:40 PM)
well, half correct. purchases under rm 500k must from bumi status companies, unless there is none. tenders above rm 500k, can get quotation from non-bumi companies. The quotes are normally higher than market price coz they are not paid in cash.

MARA has long been a 'lubok' for cronies companies to make money. MACC have been going to MARA to investigate, but intervention from politicians is way MACC is unsuccesful to nab many of those who are involved
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call ICAC mali!

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QUOTE(automan5891 @ Oct 26 2009, 10:46 AM)
Don't you know? NEP menhalalkan rasuah. As long as the money is goes into a bumiputra pocket it's all ok. RM10 mouse sell to government as RM100 mouse. No problem.
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Paraok and predictable for peasants. Mareshia kena jual!!
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My friend's supervisor for his FYP/thesis at UTM, he bought 2 laptops cost RM10k++ but the spec only cost less then RM3k for teaching purpose....He earn RM7k wei....
If got 100 lecturer in UTM, everyone also want to buy laptop,

RM7k * 2 * 100 = RM1.4 Millions shakehead.gif

If every local uni in malaysia also buy laptop like this doh.gif
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nth special for malaysia .......
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QUOTE(cyc85 @ Nov 8 2009, 07:02 PM)
My friend's supervisor for his FYP/thesis at UTM, he bought 2 laptops cost RM10k++ but the spec only cost less then RM3k for teaching purpose....He earn RM7k wei....
If got 100 lecturer in UTM, everyone also want to buy laptop,

RM7k * 2 * 100 = RM1.4 Millions  shakehead.gif

If every local uni in malaysia also buy laptop like this doh.gif
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Nais, it's good to be king UTM lecturer.

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