who are the 'some ppl'?
protein is required during both bulking n cutting phase.
protein is much harder to digest compared to carb, therefore our body requires more energy to burn it, therefore effective in increasing the metabolism.

there is nothing wrong when taking whey during cuting. During cutting you take about 1.2 to 1.5 x lbs of bodyweight. That is alot and if you want to eat solid food. So whey will help you to provide the protein needed.

This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Jul 18 2010, 08:59 PM

i take whey daily and after my workout...
not looking at building too much mass, but more tone...

was considering to take other protein too for post-workout and after workout.

was looking at Universal Nutrition Storm(creatine i think) which i can get from ego nutritions...

should i go for casein or creatine protein?

Let say i m taking True Mass. Shud i take it daily or juz after workout? If take it after workout, shud it be after or b4 workout? or both? FYI i workout 3 times in a week. etc mon, wed, fri.

weight gaining is about calorie in > calorie out
whether you work out or not, the same equation applies.

i suppose u mean consume on daily basis rite?? Btw wat is the source of healthy n high calories which can be get easily ??

take before and after workout and if u want during breakfast

Not sure whether there is healthy n high calorie food. But the trick is keep eating! Even low calorie food can b accumulated to bcome high cal.

Hey Dude,

really need urs precious knowledge on this. been work out for like 3 mths, and taking mass gainer.

before : 170cm, 55kg
now : 170cm, 62-63kg(home scale), 64-65kg(scale in gym)

My Daily Meal.

Morning Breakfast:
1 apple, 2 slice of wheat bread, butter, tuna, some cabbage, one slice of cheese OR
1 apple, 2 slice of wheat bread, butter, one egg, some cabbage, one slice of cheese

Lunch:
Normal lunch outside(rice/chic chop)

2-5pm:
1/2 banana, one slice of bread(if workout later on)

before gym:
mass gainer(1 sccope only with milk)

after gym:
mass gainer(1 scoope with milk)

dinner:
normal dinner, rice, 1/2 eggs, some vege or fish, orange juice.

before sleep:
mass gainer(1 sccope with milk)

basically thats my routine....but now my weight kind of stagnate 62-63kg..any suggestion? should take some protein supplement?

maybe like mass gainer mix with protein to get some extra?? one more thing, my tummy getting bigger, thoough my arms and chest are getting bigger too( slightly bigger to be exact compare to my belly and butt!!!)

its lengthy, but hope there is some suggestion on this. shoot me if u want too....hope no..haha.

thanks beforehand.

hi bro, take more eggs, and more meat. I've gained 3kg in a month, without any mass gainer. i feel that mass gainer consists of too much empty calories.

ur gainer...maybe u can add additional thing in the shake...such as olive oil, peanut butter, almond, banana, milk, icecream
i also like u before, my weight stagnant...then i add those stuff, weight increasing again.
but i take whey protein not gainer....increase 10kg

and u definitely need more protein from meat, eggs etc

Are On whey protein and daily diet meal enough to build up a body ?
Should i take weigh gainer or pro complex ?
Please advice.
thank you.

my whey routine is like this. waking up in the morning brushes teeth and immediately gulp down 1scoop of whey with 6oz water. almost 2scoops with water postworkout. and 1scoop with milk at night/1scoop p.blends with milk for slow releasing thruout the night

ive trained for 4months everyone around me said i've grown alot thicker and 'da jek'.. and they said that is fast?? =)

ON whey seems to be giving me constipation issues....any other alternatives?

can always try scivation.. or whey that 4rings sells..

I mean whey is just protein UNLESS you are really planning to scrutinize and be that discplined on your diet like a competing bodybuilder, then go ahead and be really specific with your whey protein. Otherwise its just additional protein in your daily diet. And with a few side perks such as BCAAs.. I think generally many ppl tend to rely on shakes a lot.. I would too if I lived in a country where whey is cheaper than solid protein or if it's not easy to obtain solid protein.

just my rm0.02

I eat little meat daily, so protein powder helps...
Of course, when I hv the chance to, I will...Jus tat normal habit hard to change...

eat more fibres and drink more plain water

ya, i drink at least 4 litres of water daily and fibres definitely more as i like veggies too

at home eat brown rice mixed with red cargo rice

add one lemon juice into your 4 liters water to accelerate metabolism.

I love how you guys discuss protein shakes, as if it's actually all that important. There's a reason why supplement companies are so huge, and guess who's the main contributor to these companies gross and nett revenue? No wonder they pay millions on marketing.

Before you even go on and on about protein shakes, first do a HCl test and identify how much, of what's ingested, is digested. You can ingest a cow, but if you seem to still be hovering at 140LBS, where'd the food go? Then, do a check on your toxicity level and your large intestine health.

Also, the reason the general public's health is so awful, is because the conditions we live in and the foods we consume, are no longer what they were 15-20 years ago. Now, if your car's got bald tires, but you upgrade the engine, chances are you're gonna hit the divider. Your body isn't actually all that different from that car.

You've to be healthy on the inside, to look good on the outside. A perfect example of, beautiful on the outside, disastrous on the inside? Malaysia politics. Look what happened. Same once again, with your body.