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Headphones [REVIEW] 6 IEM from Fischer Audio, From Russia, with love.

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post Oct 17 2009, 11:50 AM, updated 16y ago

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[Prelude]
Just a few weeks ago, I have no knowledge what-so-ever regarding Fischer Audio. I would be crazy to even consider recommending any of their IEM models to you. After all, there are literally hundreds of small companies dumping ships-load of zero quality knock-off and generic Chinese made headphones into the market. It is often a very difficult job to sort through these 'offering' and find the handful of brands that actually do pay attention to detail and take the time to fine tuning the sound of their products. I am happy to report to you that Fischer Audio is just one of these companies that do things right.

Before the review begin, I want to take the chance to thank Fisher Audio for sending me the IEM for review and especially Alex (company rep.) for the communication and his boss for finding me. If you guys are reading this: Please do consider selling your products internationally.

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[Spec]
There will be 6 models of IEM being reviewed here: The FA-999 is the latest entry of FA's "Premium" series, targeting budget orientated consumers who are interested in the bang-of-the-bucks deal. The Omega is one of FA's "Signature" series. It is a step up of "Premium" series and targeting people who are seeking a better sound with a limited budget. The Paradigm v.2, Enigma, Silver Bullet and Eterna are all in the "Fundamentals" series , which is more audiophile orientated.

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FA-999
Frequency range: 20-22000 Hz
Sensitivity: 101 dB
Impedance: 16 Om
Input power: 60 mW
Cable Length: 1.1 M
Includes: Single flange eartips (S, M, L) and manual.


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Omega
Frequency range: 12-22000 Hz
Sensitivity: 105 dB
Impedance: 32 Om
Input power: 60 mW
Cable Length: 1.25 M with Oxygen-Free Copper cable
Includes: Single flange eartips (S, M, L) and manual.


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Paradigm v.2
Frequency range: 10-20000 Hz
Sensitivity: 104 dB
Impedance: 16 Om
Input power: 60 mW
Cable Length: 1.25 M
Includes: Single flange eartips (S, M, L), soft pouch and manual.

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Enigma
Frequency range: 8-22000 Hz
Sensitivity: 102 dB
Impedance: 18 Om
Input power: 60 mW
Cable Length: 1.25 M
Includes: Single flange eartips (S, M, L), soft pouch and manual.


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Silver Bullet
Frequency range: 12-22000 Hz
Sensitivity: 102 dB
Impedance: 18 Om
Input power: 60 mW
Cable Length: 1.25 M
Includes: Single flange eartips (S, M, L), soft pouch and manual.


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Eterna
Frequency range: 8-22000 Hz
Sensitivity: 110 dB
Impedance: 18 Om
Input power: 350 mW
Cable Length: 1.25 M with Oxygen-Free Copper cable
Includes: Single flange eartips (S, L), Bi-flanges eartips, Silicone ear guides, soft pouch and manual

*All come with 3.5mm L-shaped, gold plated mini plug.


Added on October 17, 2009, 11:54 am[Packaging and Build Quality]
Besides FA-999, which has a blister pack over the paper box, all the models are well packed in a hard paper box with transparent window access so you can get to see what you are going to buy. As you can tell from the pictures, the packaging are neither top notch nor shabby. It is what I'll describe as better-than-average.

For most of the models, you will get a decent soft pouch, though I do hope FA will include a hard case for the better models. I won't even mind paying a little bit extra since it really 'completes' the whole package. This is especially true to Eterna since its ear guides are rather big and a hard case can really be helpful. Being the lower end models FA-999 and Omega don't have any pouch, but Omega does have a Velcro strip on the cable to help managing cable when unused. While most of the models have very well built mini plug, the cable are less impressive. Beside Omega and Eterna (which have thicker yet flexible cable), the rest of the models use what seems to be the same type of black cable mostly found on Sony or Panasonic earbuds back in the 90's. While the cable isn't much to look at, they are still adequate for the job.

One thing that doesn't come with most of the models (except FA-999) is the shirt clip. However, since microphonics is generally pretty low on the plain looking black cable FA used, it really isn't a big problem at all. Out of all the models, Silver Bullet is the only one with full metal housing. The housing is gorgeous to look at and has some weight to it (feel like steel btw), but the included eartips are really too soft to get a good seal. Weird enough, I only found the eartips on the Silver Bullet package to be too soft. Those on other models are actually pretty good. Their isolation are all very decent. Basically they are Eterna > Enigma > Paradigm v.2 = Omega = Silver Bullet (w/ generic single flange) > FA-999. To give you a rough idea, the isolation on FA-999 is about -20dB, which is about average on my scale and enough for daily use.

Granted none of them is built like tank, I find the overall build quality is very solid for their asking price - except for Eterna, which has a better build quality than the rest of the group and comes with ear guides, as you can see on the pictures above.

[Sound Quality]
As always, I put in roughly 40~50 hours of burn-in (each) before the audition. I do not find any major change on most of them except FA-999, which shows a noticeable better bass control after the process.

FA-999 is one for the basshead. It sounds warm, smooth and very full with a pretty good bass response going down to the 20Hz. Treble rolls off early at 16kHz and the the air killing fullness makes it veil. Bass can be a bit boomy on bass heavy music. Overall, FA-999 is a decent deal for its asking price of $21.

Omega sounds fairly balanced without any major flaw. Good treble and airiness though lacks very fine detail, Vocal is neither too close nor too far, bass is very solid and goes down deep with good slam and speed. Soundstage is better than average. Overall, Omega is definitely the best sub$30 IEM I have ever heard. The SE530 like design and the good fit also add more points to the listening experience. For an asking price of $22, it represents a big jump in SQ over FA-999.

Paradigm v.2 is the vocalist of the group. Slightly warm with very decent treble and bass response (which also goes down to 20Hz but much less in quantity compared to Omega), the strength of Paradigm v.2 lies in its clear vocal and mid range, yet remains fairly neutral without too much coloration. Soundstage is about average. Overall, the $31 Paradigm v.2 is a solid performer.

Enigma sounds warm and full with a good treble and an excellent bass response. Vocal is slightly more laid back but not to a point of being recessed. Soundstage is very good but the warmness does reduce the airiness a bit. It plays well with all type of music genres but really excels in none. Overall, the $40 Enigma does well worth the price.

Silver Bullet is all about soundstage and airiness. Once you replace the stock eartips with any good quality single flange, you will find a slightly warm sound with good airy and well detailed treble, better than average bass that is a bit low in speed and impact and a recessed yet not totally out of place vocal. The sound signature resembles that of TF10 except Silver Bullet is even more laid back with bigger space. While not everyone will like the very airy and specious presentation, the overall performance is still commendable for a pair of $53 IEM.

Eterna is a pair of very musical sounding IEM - it is not about accuracy of the sonic reproduction, but the 110% dedication to fun and music enjoyment. It has a slightly warm and an upfront presentation. Treble is there but not on the center stage. Midrange is full and vocal is sweet. Bass has a really good body, depth and decent speed though it still misses the deepest of sub-bass compared to that of real bass monster (i.e. Atrio). Airiness and soundstage are almost spot on for a pair of IEM, neither too far or near and yet still retains clear separation and layers. This is by far one of the best dynamic universal I have heard (placing it alongside with IE8 and just slightly ahead of RE0) and to best them all - it only costs $59. I dare to say I even prefer it over almost dull sounding SE530 and almost on par of TF10 (only because TF10 offers better accuracy with less coloration). To add more points to Eterna, it is almost as comfortable as UM2 and has a really good build quality. If I have to pick a weak point from Eterna, it is the lack of hard case since it is rather bulky with the ear guide in place. Highly recommended with a Sonic Diamond™ Award.

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[Conclusion]
It is kind of strange to just discover Fischer Audio even though they are in business for quite a few years now (not to mention they really have a good line-up of products). In our first email exchange, I remember Alex @ Fischer Audio introduced the companies' products as 'not quite good as Ultimate Ears but definitely better than Philips.' Well, I am quite happy to prove him wrong. They are in fact every bit as good as many of their larger competitors. At the end, the only remaining question is of course "where to find one?" Hopefully this review will give Fischer Audio a bit more incentive to venture out to the international market. For now, those who are in Russia and Scandinavia should really start looking around for stores that carries these lovely babies. Hopefully some of the bulk order organizers in the forum can also pick up some of these models for the local market as well.

A quick sum-up can be found here.

p/s: I'll be gone for a days or two for a family trip and should be able to return home by Sunday to answer any question.

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the eterna sounded way too promisng I am hoping i could get one. already sent an email to them through their site. if no reply will try their HK rep tongue.gif
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How much will these be?Pricing range?I'm up for investment icon_idea.gif
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Price??
THey look effing nice !
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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Oct 17 2009, 03:08 PM)
How much will these be?Pricing range?I'm up for investment  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(killz23 @ Oct 18 2009, 02:12 PM)
Price??
THey look effing nice !
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All prices are discussed in the SQ section.
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I like the one with SE530 design, walk on the street ppl tot u r using SE530 xD Anyone's going to bulk on this?

P/S: Clieboss, saw ur comment on head-fi regarding the Senn MX W1, hv you tried them b4?
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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Oct 18 2009, 05:15 PM)
P/S: Clieboss, saw ur comment on head-fi regarding the Senn MX W1, hv you tried them b4?
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Not real motivation to try one so, no.
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FA999 - reminds me alot of bijou... >.< and the rest also reminds of me of other brand like soundmagic design... i guess some of the name is kinda corny...

well await ur review on the sound signature~

>.> TS is definitely tempting me bck to IEM world...
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both HK rep and FA contactform ppl no reply... guess no chance of getting them outside of Russia yet like Clieboss said. sigh.
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er.. i have to tell u guys.. i'm in russia now and i've many frens who went ahead with my recommendation and bought a few of them..
so far all spoilt.. lolx..

so i can assure u guys the build quality is not there..

i myself bought fisher audio equilibrium.. which is the one right in the middle of fundamental line.. having the most neutral sound without bias into bass or treble..

no doubt it sounds very fun albeit muddy, but trust me on this.. it is a very fragile piece of cans

mine one side of the cable is loose and falling off, after less than 2 months of usage..

the reason of it still hanging is cos i upgraded and stopped using it..


Added on October 19, 2009, 11:25 pmbtw bro clie, where u got them from?

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QUOTE(evolutioner @ Oct 19 2009, 10:51 PM)

Added on October 19, 2009, 11:25 pmbtw bro clie, where u got them from?
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As described on the prelude, Fischer Audio sent them to me.
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wow.. nice..
btw i wonder why they didnt send u evolution and equilibrium..

btw, omega is the only model in signature series which is worth getting
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QUOTE(evolutioner @ Oct 20 2009, 06:16 AM)
wow.. nice..
btw i wonder why they didnt send u evolution and equilibrium..
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guys, I got in contact with the HK rep miss Alla, she said postage can be done. But say only can post by speedpost like DHL, EMS etc, which will cost 50-60USD. i'm like OMG......

so i'm think if we could arrange a bulk it shud be good. BUT, how to bulk without kena kastam clamp? and how reliable is FA in terms of reputation etc. ClieOS bro any idea?
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QUOTE(nders @ Oct 22 2009, 03:17 PM)
guys, I got in contact with the HK rep miss Alla, she said postage can be done. But say only can post by speedpost like DHL, EMS etc, which will cost 50-60USD. i'm like OMG......

so i'm think if we could arrange a bulk it shud be good. BUT, how to bulk without kena kastam clamp? and how reliable is FA in terms of reputation etc. ClieOS bro any idea?
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Fischer Audio has been in the Russian market for a few years now, so I'll guess they are at least a reliable company. As for custom, I have no idea. I never get taxed by custom before (considered I have received >2K of headphone and gears by regular mail and DHL so far), so I think I am lucky that way. The easiest way will be just find one of the regular bulk organizer in the sale forum who usually import headphone from HK to organize it. Personally I don't even know how to begin.
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QUOTE(nders @ Oct 22 2009, 03:17 PM)
guys, I got in contact with the HK rep miss Alla, she said postage can be done. But say only can post by speedpost like DHL, EMS etc, which will cost 50-60USD. i'm like OMG......

so i'm think if we could arrange a bulk it shud be good. BUT, how to bulk without kena kastam clamp? and how reliable is FA in terms of reputation etc. ClieOS bro any idea?
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You got the price quote from miss Alla? I guess I can conduct a bulk brows.gif
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 22 2009, 10:36 PM)
You got the price quote from miss Alla? I guess I can conduct a bulk brows.gif
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great! i'll forward the email to u and will reply her that u'll contact her ok? tomo will pm u more details smile.gif thanks !
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 22 2009, 10:36 PM)
You got the price quote from miss Alla? I guess I can conduct a bulk brows.gif
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Ha, talk about the devil himself...errr, I mean 'God' biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Oct 23 2009, 09:56 AM)
Ha, talk about the devil himself...errr, I mean 'God'  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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'God' is always there to 'rescue' cool2.gif
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later on..must 'rescue' wallet..its 'leaking' tongue.gif
btw..happy besday godluvsxs rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(rioven @ Oct 23 2009, 11:08 AM)
later on..must 'rescue' wallet..its 'leaking'  tongue.gif
btw..happy besday godluvsxs  rclxms.gif
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his wallet would be phat and ours wold be flat O:
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What is the major different between Silver Bullet and Eterna?
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 22 2009, 10:36 PM)
You got the price quote from miss Alla? I guess I can conduct a bulk brows.gif
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If you start a FA bulk, PM me ASAP bro! First the Fuze, now this? Dang it, my wallet will again sing the song of emptiness... sweat.gif

FA Eterna, mmm... hmm.gif

While you're at it, bulk the RE0 asso - clean up my bank account while you're at it, hehehe... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Oct 24 2009, 02:05 AM)
very regret that i sold my RE0 but really need cash, have to sell off my wii also for cash sad.gif
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And you didn't give me the chance to sell off my Quads first asso... cry.gif

Now I HAVE to get the Fuze, and maybe the Eterna... brows.gif


Added on October 24, 2009, 8:01 amGot an email from FA, they're looking for distributors!

Sadly enough, in my current financial situation, ordering 100++ units of FA IEMs are a bit of a far stretch, I hope Godluvsxs can handle it.

Want me to forward the mail?

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Guys,I've got reply from Fischer Audio.They are looking for supplier in Asia.They can't ship Eterna IEM individually as they're internet shop isn't on.So anyone interested to be the supplier please pm me for Fischer Audio contact.The person is Fabrice Mary. smile.gif
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plz poison me on december....
coz right now i dont have enuff moolah.... pity me plz? lol....


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Second on the "RE0 bulk" notion tongue.gif .please do.and seeing how things going,looks like Eterna bulk is coming real soon brows.gif

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Oct 24 2009, 02:15 PM)
plz poison me on december....
coz right now i dont have enuff moolah.... pity me plz? lol....
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I have another poison for you on Dec. It is called FiiO E7... brows.gif
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I better start saving for FA/ RE bulk. Hope it would come sooner.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Oct 24 2009, 04:07 PM)
I have another poison for you on Dec. It is called FiiO E7... brows.gif
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time to sell something from my store....

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Oct 24 2009, 04:07 PM)
I have another poison for you on Dec. It is called FiiO E7... brows.gif
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E7 i already reserved cash for it muhahah. it is top in my list, like food that feed me tongue.gif my onboard sound sucked too hard.
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how much is E7?
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clieOS predict wont be over 100USD... so I save 100USD for it
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The final price will be set by the final product (the components and design used). FiiO is still doing minor change on their prototypes AFAIK, so there is no final price yet. But the whole point of E7 is to provide an decent entry level amp+DAC for the mobile user, so it definitely won't be more expensive than their competitors. My guess is around US$80, but it is a mere guess at the moment.
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it will be PERFECT if 50USD am i right whistling.gif
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it'll even more perfect for E7 + Eterna combo for USD100 drool.gif
nice dream...time for bed

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LoL..i'm studying in russia..
I see fischer audio everywhere..
Now i know they are actually good lol..
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QUOTE(Masamune @ Oct 25 2009, 05:43 AM)
LoL..i'm studying in russia..
I see fischer audio everywhere..
Now i know they are actually good lol..
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great,when you're coming back here to Malaysia,make sure to bring us at least 20 pieces of Eterna IEM. laugh.gif
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Hi there, got some response from Fischer Audio, price quote for 10 units of Eterna is USD59 each which is the same as retail price and USD100 for EMS shipping for 10 units, so basically you guys are saving around 40-50USD on shipping smile.gif

Wanna proceed to bulk? biggrin.gif

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sure! LOL.now we have the chance to get our hands on Eterna brows.gif .and,how much it cost in RM? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 26 2009, 11:47 PM)
Hi there, got some response from Fischer Audio, price quote for 10 units of Eterna is USD59 which is the same as retail price and USD100 for EMS shipping for 10 units, so basically you guys are saving around 40-50USD on shipping smile.gif

Wanna proceed to bulk? biggrin.gif
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a unit cost 459 USD?If 10 unit is 594,its really agreat bargain
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lets do it~ smile.gif thanks godlusxs
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Agreed. Build quality niggles aside, I'm really interested in their SQ. Plus, compared to the horrors of my PR2's build quality, it can't be THAT bad can it?

Sign me up for the bulk, godluvsxs. Maybe with loyal customer perks? brows.gif

And, depending on how this turns out, I might have to let go of another IEM... Can't continue on buying like this... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Oct 27 2009, 10:53 AM)
Agreed. Build quality niggles aside, I'm really interested in their sq.
And, compared to the horrors of my PR 2's build quality, it can't be THAT bad eh?
Sign me up for the bulk, godluvsxs. Maybe with loyal customer perks? :wink:

And, depending on how this turns out, I might have to let go of another IEM... brows.gif
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that would be a good news to me brows.gif lol.anyway,count me in the bulk mate rclxm9.gif
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interested in the Fischer Audio Eterna, but currently bankcrupt adi..

haihh...

hope GodLuvSxS can conduct a bulk...for long term de..




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QUOTE(Masamune @ Oct 29 2009, 08:25 AM)
LoL..around mid of next year only i'll be back..
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LoL..around mid of next year only i'll be back..
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how much is d Fischer Audio Eterna seller at russia ya???
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how much is d Fischer Audio Eterna seller at russia ya???
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Hi there, got some response from Fischer Audio, price quote for 10 units of Eterna is USD59 each which is the same as retail price and USD100 for EMS shipping for 10 units, so basically you guys are saving around 40-50USD on shipping smile.gif

Wanna proceed to bulk? biggrin.gif
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so up till now already how many person in the bulking list already? curious to know. might want one
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I should be in there... Godluvsxs?
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no updates?
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Hi guys, will conduct the bulk by later morning, just got the complete information from fischer audio.

Price would be RM250 inclusive of international postage and local postage smile.gif Oh ya, tax fees not included if retained by KASTAM smile.gif

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Nov 5 2009, 02:46 AM)
Hi guys, will conduct the bulk by later morning, just got the complete information from fischer audio.

Price would be RM250 inclusive of international postage and local postage smile.gif Oh ya, tax fees not included if retained by KASTAM smile.gif
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what u mean "if"? how much if retained by Kastam? which better Eterna or re0?
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so how many people are in the bulk now?
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QUOTE(kamikraze @ Nov 5 2009, 02:58 AM)
what u mean "if"? how much if retained by Kastam? which better Eterna or re0?
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yo bro. according to clieBoss, eterna pwn RE0 in soundstage, and at least equally well in other areas. the only concern about FA is their build quality, which quite a few number of ppl complained in head-fi. but if this bulk is conducted. I'll ditch RE0 anyday and go with this still tongue.gif i am headstage fan hehe.

hope kastam dont retain O: or else sigh.
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time to take the vaccine people smile.gif 10 MOQ!! come come
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thanks so much bro!finally!! rclxm9.gif
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well what the heck....? im craving for new earphone also.... hope this wont hurt my budget to get other iem...
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:41 PM)
well what the heck....? im craving for new earphone also.... hope this wont hurt my budget to get other iem...
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come on bro. clieBoss's sonic diamond~ won't go too wrong one smile.gif even on par with IE8 in his opinion. whoa. what more can we crave smile.gif
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QUOTE(nders @ Nov 5 2009, 12:43 PM)
come on bro. clieBoss's sonic diamond~ won't go too wrong one smile.gif even on par with IE8 in his opinion. whoa. what more can we crave smile.gif
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craving for custom lol! not to worries thou... i will place my order when salary time...
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Woohoo, first on the bulk list.
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On a more serious note, I'm hoping that the Eterna is good enough to best the PR2, now that I'm noticing just how well the E5 warms up the cold mids of the PR2.
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QUOTE(nders @ Nov 5 2009, 09:05 AM)
yo bro. according to clieBoss, eterna pwn RE0 in soundstage, and at least equally well in other areas. the only concern about FA is their build quality, which quite a few number of ppl complained in head-fi. but if this bulk is conducted. I'll ditch RE0 anyday and go with this still tongue.gif i am headstage fan hehe.

hope kastam dont retain O: or else sigh.
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ok got it.. i need sometime to think bout this.. soundstage is what im looking too..
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You guys very pandai racun people -___-
I originally wanted to get PL-50 at the middle of the month, now that the eterna bulk is there, I better opt for this biggrin.gif

Been using the EP-630, and I can feel the lack of sound quality from it now and need something better.
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well,this is what we're doin in free time tongue.gif .
and dont head to headfi.org .period.

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already kena racun on head-fi few times adi, that's how i got few earphone and headphones, and listening them them more than my speakers tongue.gif
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yeah, please DO NOT go head-fi. u will get to know more poison!!

btw, here's head-fi address

www.head-fi.org/forums

dont go there!!
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 5 2009, 08:31 PM)
well,this is what we're doin in free time tongue.gif .
and dont head to headfi.org .period.

dont say i dont warn u biggrin.gif
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My wallet (not to mention my savings account) hate my now, with a vengeance... brows.gif

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QUOTE(nders @ Nov 5 2009, 08:45 PM)
yeah, please DO NOT go head-fi. u will get to know more poison!!

btw, here's head-fi address

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dont go there!!
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its a year too late for that lol....
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lol eiraku.love the 'vengeance' part tongue.gif .so how the bulk doing?could make it for the TT ? brows.gif

not to mention bro Akabane sure comin...:fainted ady:
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broke ur wallet is necessary in audiophile world.. include mine too..
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Oct 27 2009, 10:53 AM)
Agreed. Build quality niggles aside, I'm really interested in their SQ. Plus, compared to the horrors of my PR2's build quality, it can't be THAT bad can it?

Sign me up for the bulk, godluvsxs. Maybe with loyal customer perks? brows.gif

And, depending on how this turns out, I might have to let go of another IEM... Can't continue on buying like this... sweat.gif
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hehe...had the same problem with my PR2,superglue comes to my rescue...lol

but they do produce quality sound although i hear some sibilance using silicone tips.



Clieos,

another great poison as ever, with the diamond poison tag,my wallet icon_question.gif

looking fwd to 1st bulk buyer's impression.... thumbup.gif


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hehe...had the same problem with my PR2,superglue comes to my rescue...lol

but they do produce quality sound although i  hear some sibilance using silicone tips.
Clieos,

another great poison as ever, with the diamond poison tag,my wallet icon_question.gif

looking fwd to 1st bulk buyer's impression.... thumbup.gif
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Woah, somebody else with the PR2s... biggrin.gif

How would you rate the PR2s vs your Atrios, anyhow (sorry for the hijack bro ClieOS? I'm considerably interested in someone who has both... biggrin.gif

And yeah, there's some sibilance, especially on my "Tweaked Up Treble" EQ setting on more badly mastered tracks, but it's endurable... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 6 2009, 04:12 PM)
Woah, somebody else with the PR2s... biggrin.gif

How would you rate the PR2s vs your Atrios, anyhow (sorry for the hijack bro ClieOS? I'm considerably interested in someone who has both... biggrin.gif

And yeah, there's some sibilance, especially on my "Tweaked Up Treble" EQ setting on more badly mastered tracks, but it's endurable... brows.gif
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am afraid u would ask me that question... brows.gif

i like them both very much,and its quite difficult to rate them as i always rotate between the two.

Atrios low bass imo is fenomenal,mid a bit flat and high is better control than PR2.*no sibilant
to have a more balance sound,i feel that using tips with wider opening does help on the mids n highs.*more forward.

PR2 doesn't go as low but produce gud thumping bass nevertheless and the mid and high is clear n crispy.(having said that am still looking for suitable tips to reduce the sibilance,going to the pharmacy tomorrw to buy some foam ear plug and do some mod,hopefully can reduce the sibilance.

well if u want my opinion whether it is worth to buy the Atrio @RM550,i would say no but if u own the Atrio now and would like to own the PR2@RM250,
i would say yes and a tube of superglue,of coz sweat.gif

eterna @RM250 drool.gif but right now am sahara desert :dry cry.gif after puschased X-1050

cheers bro,hope it cures ur curiosity biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(kehoe @ Nov 6 2009, 06:11 PM)
am afraid u would ask me that question... brows.gif

i like them both very much,and its quite difficult to rate them as i always rotate between the two.

Atrios low bass imo is fenomenal,mid a bit flat and high is better control than PR2.*no sibilant
to have a more balance sound,i feel that using tips with wider opening does help on the mids n highs.*more forward.

PR2 doesn't go as low but produce gud thumping bass nevertheless and the mid and high is clear n crispy.(having said that am still looking for suitable tips to reduce the sibilance,going to the pharmacy tomorrw to buy some foam ear plug and do some mod,hopefully can reduce the sibilance.

well if u want my opinion whether it is worth to buy the Atrio @RM550,i would say no but if u own the Atrio now and would like to own the PR2@RM250,
i would say yes and a tube of superglue,of coz sweat.gif

eterna @RM250 drool.gif but right now am sahara desert :dry cry.gif after puschased X-1050

cheers bro,hope it cures ur curiosity biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the opinion... I'd say about the same about the PR2... Glad to know I'm not the only guy who thinks that it's a good IEM (and thus my ears are screwed)... biggrin.gif

Okay, enough off-topicness, back to the Eternas... biggrin.gif

The last slot is taking its time to fill... Don't make me buy two people... sweat.gif

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ya...why no takers for the last slot?

lol...if this thread is in head-fi forum godluvsxs kena rape already.
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QUOTE(kehoe @ Nov 6 2009, 10:28 PM)
ya...why no takers for the last slot?

lol...if this thread is in head-fi forum godluvsxs kena rape already.
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doesn't fate already give enough hint for u? cool.gif
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haha suddenly few people want to go in the bulk now, maybe going to be 2nd bulk.
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doesn't fate already give enough hint for u?  cool.gif
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hehe...i need to slowly top up my acc first la...bro sweat.gif

i am a big fan for dynamic driven phones.i know am missing something here as i couldn't afford the IE8.


its a gud buy @RM250 and its gud to have u guys on the first bulk,personal impression or a mini review would be nice smile.gif

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QUOTE(kehoe @ Nov 7 2009, 04:16 PM)
hehe...i need to slowly top up my acc first la...bro sweat.gif

i am a big fan for dynamic driven phones.i know am missing something here as i couldn't afford the IE8.
its a gud buy @RM250 and its gud to have u guys on the first bulk,personal impression or a mini review would be nice smile.gif
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I totally understand your circumstances, as with 100% other audiophiles as well imo. money ALWAYS not enough for audio (and we are not even in hi-fi yet XD). sadness.
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I totally understand your circumstances, as with 100% other audiophiles as well imo. money ALWAYS not enough for audio (and we are not even in hi-fi yet XD). sadness.
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wooooo
another best-buy earphone on the market rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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first fedor emelianenko, now fischer audio, long liv russia huhu.... rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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we only know when bro Clieos introduce to us.. but the brand itself already top in Russia.. even my fren know bout fischer audio.. haha..
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the Eterna abit looks like UM2
how about the sound quality?
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QUOTE(hoho1222 @ Nov 10 2009, 09:14 PM)
the Eterna abit looks like UM2
how about the sound quality?
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err....... first page?
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When the bulk arrives, I hope someone can do a direct comparison of the IE8 and Eterna. Saying the Eterna is on par with IE8 is amazing, but no one has backed it up yet. No disrespect to ClieOS of course, but a second opinion would be assuring.

I do hope it's true though. Then I can have the SQ of IE8 (or close) at 1/6 of the price biggrin.gif
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...and before anyone get angry about me saying Eterna has the same SQ as IE8, then have a different opinion of their own: I was making a point on Eterna and IE8 being two of the best dynamic IEM I ever heard, not that they share the same SQ, or the same sound signature in that matter.

This is the original paragraph:
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This is by far one of the best dynamic universal I have heard (placing it alongside with IE8 and just slightly ahead of RE0) and to best them all - it only costs $59. I dare to say I even prefer it over almost dull sounding SE530 and almost on par of TF10 (only because TF10 offers better accuracy with less coloration).

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Clearly my mistake notworthy.gif

How does it fare against IE8 anyways? The IE8's strength seems to be its bass and soundstage. Does the Eterna come anywhere near the IE8 in terms of both?
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I only auditioned IE8 briefly, not enough to pass done any real judgment thus I don't want to include it in any review. However, I also audition UM3X and W3 the same day (and I had my RE0 that day for comparison), and IE8 is the only one that impress me, that say a lot on how it fairs. Since I also like Eterna just a tad better than RE0, that make IE8 and Eterna two of the best dynamic IEM I ever heard. I don't want to misguide you to think that I can / have compare(d) them side by side to actually tell you how they compared with each other. If anything, recalling precise audio memory is often too inaccurate for any usefulness.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Nov 12 2009, 12:15 AM)
I only auditioned IE8 briefly, not enough to pass done any real judgment thus I don't want to include it in any review. However, I also audition UM3X and W3 the same day (and I had my RE0 that day for comparison), and IE8 is the only one that impress me, that say a lot on how it fairs. Since I also like Eterna just a tad better than RE0, that make IE8 and Eterna two of the best dynamic IEM I ever heard. I don't want to misguide you to think that I can / have compare(d) them side by side to actually tell you how they compared with each other. If anything, recalling precise audio memory is often too inaccurate for any usefulness.
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but still sir... i trust ur ears more than mine....
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sorry no offense

i think no point getting something that ppl say it is good even if ur ear doesnt really like it.

after all everyone got their own preference and it is still better to get something we like more than other ppl like.

as of for me, i would like something that can tingle my ear more than tickle my ear whistling.gif <--- that really tells what i like already haha

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Nov 12 2009, 12:15 AM)
I only auditioned IE8 briefly, not enough to pass done any real judgment thus I don't want to include it in any review. However, I also audition UM3X and W3 the same day (and I had my RE0 that day for comparison), and IE8 is the only one that impress me, that say a lot on how it fairs. Since I also like Eterna just a tad better than RE0, that make IE8 and Eterna two of the best dynamic IEM I ever heard. I don't want to misguide you to think that I can / have compare(d) them side by side to actually tell you how they compared with each other. If anything, recalling precise audio memory is often too inaccurate for any usefulness.
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Wow, if you prefer the IE8 over the W3 and UM3X, then I'm inclined to trust your ears even more now.
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And that just makes the next step for me even clearer: I need to get me the IE8 somewhere along the line.
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That and a UM Quad... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 12 2009, 01:34 AM)
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Wow, if you prefer the IE8 over the W3 and UM3X, then I'm inclined to trust your ears even more now.
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That perhaps requires some clarification: I was impressed by IE8 as it has a different sound signature from your typical high end IEM. I think Sennheiser's approach is more 'enjoyment orientated' instead of trying to sound 'more correct'. UM3X on the other hand is also a solid top tier choice, but I feel that it is too conservative on its sound signature and lacks personality. It is not necessary a bad thing as it makes the IEM less picky on music genre. The real disappointment of the day was W3, which I can only describe as being rather harsh and lack in resolution. Personally I would have taken UM2 over W3.
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Just got my eterna today.. brows.gif
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post some thoughts lah... lol

I already ordered the RE0, and thats the last purchase I will make for a long long time, so no Eterna for me.

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Thoughts?
Just go it la..wait till i give a good burn in and i'll review later..
Stuck with test and everything..
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me still waiting...
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QUOTE(Masamune @ Nov 24 2009, 08:28 AM)
Thoughts?
Just go it la..wait till i give a good burn in and i'll review later..
Stuck with test and everything..
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dying for your review man! heard quite a few bad comments on them from head-fi. hope they QC no problem lol.
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Haha..i just lost my skull candy and since this get good reviews and its so easy to get here and the price is reasonable so WTH..
Got it yesterday..Up till now very impressed with it.. smile.gif
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It seems our Southern brothers @ Singapore just got their Eterna shipment.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/mass-order-forum...dio-iem-13.html
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Northern gang should be getting theirs within this few days too. The tracking shown it's dispatching to domestic by today.
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Nov 25 2009, 12:28 AM)
haih... sure after raya haji....
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Nov 25 2009, 03:50 PM)
I spread the magic ... who knows you may get it by tomorrow brows.gif
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Nov 25 2009, 03:50 PM)
I spread the magic ... who knows you may get it by tomorrow brows.gif
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thanks again! now people. time to ROCK! tomorrow.... tongue.gif
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im ready....
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Nov 26 2009, 09:08 AM)
just got my package...
cant wait....!:D
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review!!! drool.gif icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(nders @ Nov 26 2009, 09:24 AM)
review!!!  drool.gif  icon_question.gif
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just got to hear it out of the box...
nothing much to say... the bass responds really make my day .... listening to I dont love you - My Chemical Romance and and the sound of the crash cymbals are really noticeable more noticeable than usual... the details aren't there (yet)... so i just let it burn as im replying this....

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Nov 26 2009, 10:16 AM)
just got to hear it out of the box...
nothing much to say... the bass responds really make my day .... listening to I dont love you - My Chemical Romance and and the sound of the crash cymbals are really noticeable more noticeable than usual... the details aren't there (yet)... so i just let it burn as im replying this....
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I guess it's still got long way to go ... fun oriented IEM tend to need more time to burn in smile.gif
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I guess it's still got long way to go ... fun oriented IEM tend to need more time to burn in smile.gif
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Nov 26 2009, 10:55 AM)
I guess it's still got long way to go ... fun oriented IEM tend to need more time to burn in smile.gif
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another 20hours for pleasure.... another 100 for serious audition....
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Listening through mine using my Fuze + LOD + Crap E5...

Impressions? I like em, even though not as transparent as my PR2 (after the initial 30 minutes out of the box) or is the bass as dry (it's a bit flabby and woofer-y). Soundstage width gets spanked hard by the PR2 (the PR2 is much wider by a far margin), but in terms of imaging, they seem equally competent. Though, to my ears, the Eternas have a touch more depth in terms of the perceived soundstage.

On the other hand, the Eternas have far better isolation, lol.

And yeah, the Eternas are basshead phones. That's for sure.

But overall, the Eternas are very engaging phones, out of the box. Will update with more critical impressions later after thar burn inzzorz!
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 26 2009, 12:29 PM)
Listening through mine using my Fuze + LOD + Crap E5...

Impressions? I like em, even though not as transparent as my PR2 (after the initial 30 minutes out of the box) or is the bass as dry (it's a bit flabby and woofer-y). Soundstage width gets spanked hard by the PR2 (the PR2 is much wider by a far margin), but in terms of imaging, they seem equally competent. Though, to my ears, the Eternas have a touch more depth in terms of the perceived soundstage.

On the other hand, the Eternas have far better isolation, lol.

And yeah, the Eternas are basshead phones. That's for sure.

But overall, the Eternas are very engaging phones, out of the box. Will update with more critical impressions later after thar burn inzzorz!
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made me feel like getting PR2 O: how did u get ur hands on the PR2s Eiraku?
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QUOTE(nders @ Nov 26 2009, 02:08 PM)
made me feel like getting PR2 O: how did u get ur hands on the PR2s Eiraku?
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One shot bulk by Fred86 a while back. Now I feel like ordering a backup pair, lol... biggrin.gif

MUCH more detailed compared to the Eternas, but as a result, a tad sibilant and fatiguing... Feel like ordering the FX500 just to see how MUCH better it is compared to the PR2 which it has a similar sound chara to... biggrin.gif

But, in the Eterna's favour, they're easily as comfortable as the PL50s IMHO, and being specifically designed for wire-over-ear use does help a LOT!

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 26 2009, 03:05 PM)
One shot bulk by Fred86 a while back. Now I feel like ordering a backup pair, lol... biggrin.gif

MUCH more detailed compared to the Eternas, but as a result, a tad sibilant and fatiguing...  Feel like ordering the FX500 just to see how MUCH better it is compared to the PR2 which it has a similar sound chara to... biggrin.gif

But, in the Eterna's favour, they're easily as comfortable as the PL50s IMHO, and being specifically designed for wire-over-ear use does help a LOT!
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we can ask for Sony Ericsson bro help if wan get the FX500s smile.gif but from various reviews seems like PR2 slightly overpar with FX500 even... these chinese IEMs sure are crazy good for their asking price.
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received mine awhile ago rclxm9.gif ...but the stock tips just doesn't fit my ears...too small doh.gif

will used other tips for better isolation...and off it goes into the burn in process. whistling.gif

these will kept me busy during the weekend cool.gif
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QUOTE(fook yu @ Nov 26 2009, 04:52 PM)
received mine awhile ago rclxm9.gif ...but the stock tips just doesn't fit my ears...too small doh.gif

will used other tips for better isolation...and off it goes into the burn in process. whistling.gif

these will kept me busy during the weekend cool.gif
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listening it on first run........ same conclusion with weib from vrzone: WTF is with the bloated mids and high bass!?!?!?~~~~~

guess i'd let it burn in for a few hrs b4 listening tongue.gif


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listening it on first run........ same conclusion with weib from vrzone: WTF is with the bloated mids and high bass!?!?!?~~~~~

guess i'd let it burn in for a few hrs b4 listening tongue.gif
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after 3hours of burning-in.... boy oh boy, so burning in really DOES matter. finally its closer to what it SHOULD be. fantastic imaging, details are coming, bloated feel faded away quite alot! my confidence in these babies are back again rclxm9.gif

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Reached home, drool.gif opened mine 5 hours ago...burning...burning....

Initially, built quality Good, fits OK, isolation OK, SQ not really-really-really impressed ohmy.gif ...bit muddled, roll-offs, but after a few hours on my Creative Zen...SQ and soundstage really do open out, bass not so flabby, truly for bass-heads....
will burn overnight...

Anyone knows what's the number on the white label near the L jack?
Mine show No. 2158/3000.3
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After 8 hours or so, i find the mids are more controled, bass are tighten up, soundstage a bit widen and the separation more noticable. Still, this is my impression. Seriously good for rock ( try listening to one - metallica in wav format and u know what i mean). The stock earphone fits just nice eventhou my left ear feel a little pain ( ive been having this uncomfortable sensation on my left ear recently) but the isolation is great. Hoping to burn more to really pass my finale judgement.

Oh yeah, mines is 2147 3000.3
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I think Eterna is quite sensitive to the source (songs), or should I say revealing? Old timer records which tend to sound bloated will results in a more cloudy and veiled Eterna ... you guys should try and see biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Nov 27 2009, 02:14 AM)
I think Eterna is quite sensitive to the source (songs), or should I say revealing? Old timer records which tend to sound bloated will results in a more cloudy and veiled Eterna ... you guys should try and see biggrin.gif
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Will do. Got some ol' skool songs in my library here somewhere....
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after 10 hrs of burning-in... sounded much better, but still sux listening to live. the audience claps are all muffled up, unable to create the atmosphere. and tho others said vocals' eterna's strength, its like a double edge sword... its a bit too mid-centric for me and it sounded a tad bloated!
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After overnight burning, really makes a noticeable difference, more open and mids are more controllable.
Tried on a nobrand MP3 player, same track...really sux, same track on Zen, OKlah. Eterna really source dependent, can't wait for Sansa Clip+ to arrive and try Flac tracks. so far...no regrets, truly a good buy! rclxms.gif
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The Sansa player is only 8GB right? Couple that with flac files and you can only get like... 30 albums in it? How do you guys live with that?
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Nov 27 2009, 01:16 PM)
The Sansa player is only 8GB right? Couple that with flac files and you can only get like... 30 albums in it? How do you guys live with that?
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got money cant get another 16gb memory card

if u are loaded get 32gb card and u have 40gb smile.gif
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So to get a sansa fuze with 60GB worth of space would cost how much?
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8GB itself cost RM290

8GB microSD cost RM50

32GB microSD cost - ?????

Total up is the cost smile.gif in future 32GB would be cheaper and that is the time to get the card, for the time being 16GB is more than enough~


So far for me I have 500++ songs and it havent even fill up 8GB card yet.

I do not have that much of FLAC collection~
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QUOTE(moxie15 @ Nov 27 2009, 01:08 PM)
After overnight burning, really makes a noticeable difference, more open and mids are more controllable.
Tried on a nobrand MP3 player, same track...really sux, same track on Zen, OKlah. Eterna really source dependent, can't wait for Sansa Clip+ to arrive and try Flac tracks. so far...no regrets, truly a good buy! rclxms.gif
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VERY source dependant. it can be so bad if playing tracks it "doesn't like" lol. a bit disappointed. but since its not even 20hrs into burn-in, i'll reserve my final verdict first tongue.gif

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Another review from Vr-Zone... smile.gif ..."..undervalued gem..."

http://forums.vr-zone.com/7403981-post16.html

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QUOTE(moxie15 @ Nov 28 2009, 01:28 PM)
Another review  from Vr-Zone... smile.gif ..."..undervalued gem..."

http://forums.vr-zone.com/7403981-post16.html
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Ha, I see my review has landed with the neighbors up north.

QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Oct 24 2009, 02:12 PM)
Guys,I've got reply from Fischer Audio.They are looking for supplier in Asia.They can't ship Eterna IEM individually as they're internet shop isn't on.So anyone interested to be the supplier please pm me for Fischer Audio contact.The person is Fabrice Mary. smile.gif
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I'm negotiating with a local company here in singapore to distribute FA products.
This will translate to cheaper prices - dependent on USD/EURO Forex.

However the plus point would be 1 year warranty and faster lead time.

The company will have stocks on hand so that I can post out to your guys if you're interested(almost the same price as bulk but you don't have to wait for bulk orders), and i'll offer paypal transfer for easier transaction and security.

Sorry that my first post is of a sales nature, but I'll contribute more when i get more samples from FA.

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QUOTE(weib @ Nov 30 2009, 06:40 PM)
Ha, I see my review has landed with the neighbors up north.
I'm negotiating with a local company here in singapore to distribute FA products.
This will translate to cheaper prices - dependent on  USD/EURO Forex.

However the plus point would be 1 year warranty and faster lead time.

The company will have stocks on hand so that I can post out to your guys if you're interested(almost the same price as bulk but you don't have to wait for bulk orders), and i'll offer paypal transfer for easier transaction and security.

Sorry that my first post is of a sales nature, but I'll contribute more when i get more samples from FA.
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hi weib. this is great news to malaysians and singaporeans that we have 1 more choice in our IEM ventures with local warranty. enjoyed reading your review on the Eterna too! thanks for the insights and updates.
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Hi guys, anyone in the first bulk can share out more detail review on the eterna? rclxms.gif
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Today I received the Fiio E1.

Brief Impression -

I've borrowed a nano 4g to do the testing and review.
I'm quite impressed that Ipod's amplification has improved since the last time I heard it, 1-2g era (i know, it was a long time ago.....)
It can drive the Eterna quite effectively at about 1/2 but where it starts to shine(3/4), the amplification starts to distort.

The highs start to clip and become very harsh and unrefined.

Plugged in the E1 - which is quite a nifty device if I must say so myself.
Bass extension went deeper but tighter. Clarity and imaging came alive even with mid quality MP3 there was evident SQ improvement.

I hate to admit it, but as an anti-ipod person - Ipod + E1 + Eterna kicks my Fuze's butt.
Now I have changed my views drastically about apple Ipods.
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QUOTE(Fred86 @ Dec 1 2009, 10:54 PM)
Hi guys, anyone in the first bulk can share out more detail review on the eterna?  rclxms.gif
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i'm no pro in this, but i'll share a bit tongue.gif

setup: refer my sig (derringer)
source files: mp3 V0, mp3 CBR 320K
genre: live orchestra 30%, Jpop 20%, Cpop 10%, Digital/Analog remixes 20%, english pop 20%
comparing devices: FS Atrio

Sound Impressions

Highs:
definitely extends higher than the Atrio, but still not much sparkles. Flat. on some tracks the high instruments like the high flutes and the metal clashes of the saucers get veiled out and sounded a bit smeared, but on most tracks they are nicely handled.

mids:
this is where I dislike Eterna the most. the lower highs and the higher bass, along with the mids, get a bloated, unclear texture to them VERY easily depending on the source recordings. vocals are also a hit and miss with the Eternas. some sounded good and silky on them, others will just makes u feel like listening to them through a wall of clothes or something...

lows:
the Eternas is definitely a basshead phones i must say. even when comparing to the Lord of the Bass Atrio, they pack a real punch here. Though they lose out slightly to the bass depth and layering to Atrio, they are still very enjoyable in this department. well controlled (slightly bloated in some tracks due to the mid, high bass humps) and powerful impact.

soundstage:
small, but acceptable. nothing much to complain/compliment here.

imaging:
excellent on certain tracks that don't make the mids smeared. I guess the imaging is the main reason it is able to keep me listening to it despite the atrio. they are so fun to listen to with all the instruments seperated clearly (again, depending on source) and right around you. Atrio does imaging ok too, but just not fun and 3D enough compared to the Eternas.

Conclusion
Well worth the money imo. But the fact that you need to pick songs for them to shine is quite discouraging sometimes, when I just wanted to plug in and enjoy music... I would like to quote ClieOS in summing up the Eternas: They are like the 7 sins, you know its not right (it doesn't sound right), but you just can't resist (listening to) them. well put imo. When you think of their sound, you'll be like "omg its really quite blurred out, I don't like it", but when you actually put them on, you can't stop!
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Agreed. You know it ain't right, but you LOVE them anyway.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Dec 2 2009, 12:01 PM)
Agreed. You know it ain't right, but you LOVE them anyway.
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hippo have a new IEM called hippo Epic. but so far in jaben.net sgheadphones.net and head-fi.org no one has ANY info on it yet. not even the god of internet (google). guess I have to go jaben to test it out myself doh.gif
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QUOTE(nders @ Dec 2 2009, 12:44 PM)
hippo have a new IEM called hippo Epic. but so far in jaben.net sgheadphones.net and head-fi.org no one has ANY info on it yet. not even the god of internet (google). guess I have to go jaben to test it out myself  doh.gif
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wah... everyone getting another vaccine?


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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Dec 2 2009, 01:35 PM)
wah... everyone getting another vaccine?
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well, i heard u just got a HUGE dose of vaccine! tongue.gif remember post some thoughts on it after getting biggrin.gif

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well, i heard u just got a HUGE dose of vaccine! tongue.gif remember post some thoughts on it after getting biggrin.gif
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No more people going to go for 2nd bulk? Just 3-4 slots left to start ordering this nice set of earphones biggrin.gif
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No more people going to go for 2nd bulk? Just 3-4 slots left to start ordering this nice set of earphones biggrin.gif
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well i did really tested a while for this eterna. its dark and it bassy yet FUN, definitely one of the best bass I heard so far. Mids is so so and treble of course is not that great.


Due to my own preference on the treble and details this iem definitely is not my cup of tea. Of course if I got extra cash, i'd like to get this iem and enjoy the bass.
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i tried coolice's eterna that day.. i was WOWed... it was almost like my (ex)IE8... as in terms of bass haha! but bass control, mids, highs and soundstage not really but it is a very good phone.. really recommended for bassheads...
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Hi guys, sorry to tell you all that the second bulk for Fischer Audio is going to be my last since the interest is geting less tense (MOQ harder to reach) and I'm getting busier ... thanks Fischer Audio not setting full MOQ (still 5 units order needed) for this round, so guys .... this is your last chance ... grab it while it's still here ...

I'm accepting Silver Bullet orders for this round ... please check the bulk thread for further details ... thanks


http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1217121

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Using the eterna to listen to disco musics are very refreshing and fun heh.
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Okay we have gotten distributorship for FA products -
This means we have ready stock to send out, local warranty 1 year (singapore).

Not to clash with the current MO, I will wait for it to be finished then I'll open orders while trying to sort out the postage fees/transaction methods.

We are currently stocking Eterna/Silver bullets and we'll be bringing in most of the Fundamental line and some of the signature line - Sigma/Omega

No need for MOQ, just purchase as and when you need one.
We're also offering bundles with Fiio E1 and E5 at attractive prices.

For now I'll accept paypal while trying to secure a malaysian Maybank account for my own.

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If my earphones have problems later, am I able to claim warranty through the singapore distributor? Since I got it from the last bulk I don't have the receipt to prove the date of purchase.
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I'm sorry but only purchases through me are valid for warranty claims.
We go by the serial number system, each product is registered with the distributor even stocks that I take from them will be registered so they know exactly who took the stock.


Added on December 23, 2009, 1:43 amFA has informed us that we'd be receiving a new sample product of their signature line.

Its called Sigma v2 and it has a kevlar cable.

I don't know how it works and the first for me to even hear that kevlar is being used as cable.

I will update this thread when i get a chance to review it.


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If my earphones have problems later, am I able to claim warranty through the singapore distributor? Since I got it from the last bulk I don't have the receipt to prove the date of purchase.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1285212
Okay, got ready stock.

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I want to revive back this thread. Since there are more Fischer Eterna users now I want your guy's opinion about the tips for the Eterna.

Anyone used other eartips beside the stock bi-flange and the stock single-flange tips? I found that if change to the sing-flange tips the highs are more prominent, changing the sound signature considerably. The bass is also reduced. The biggest problem is that the isolation reduced a lot, does the ultimate ears bi-flange sound like Eterna's single-flange but with more isolation?

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ive tried with bijou double flange but failed (coz tips holes are a bit bigger than eterna tips)
tried with some old stock tips i have from my ifrogz and the isolation is kindda bad...

try squeezing my pl21 tips n made it... but i still... still cant get a good isolation...

tried with ck100's foam tips.... yeah... i got the isolation but somehow i dont feel its the max isolation... since i feel my left side is slightly sounded thiner than my right....

tried my custom sleeve and voila! the sound is just right.... i got a balance sound and a great isolation....


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How does the sound signature differ from the different tips?
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most of it is the fit issues...
the double stock flange of eterna give me a good isolation but i notice that my left ear sound hollow and unbalance.... i thought at first the earphone broke down or something but actually it was my left ear lobe is bigger than my right.... so i didnt hear quite right...

its all just about the same, try shallow inserting but all i can hear was the bass thumping and i feel so fatigue, so i go for deep insert which my right ears dont have any problem but my left start to sound thin and hollow... and the sound feels so unbalance....

only ck100 foam tips and custom sleeve that gives me balance to my left and right...
and sounded the bass was more controlled, less harsh on the mids and i can hear vocals clearly




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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Jan 23 2010, 12:20 AM)
most of it is the fit issues...
the double stock flange of eterna give me a good isolation but i notice that my left ear sound hollow and unbalance.... i thought at first the earphone broke down or something but actually it was my left ear lobe is bigger than my right.... so i didnt hear quite right...

its all just about the same, try shallow inserting but all i can hear was the bass thumping and i feel so fatigue, so i go for deep insert which my right ears dont have any problem but my left start to sound thin and hollow...  and the sound feels so unbalance....

only ck100 foam tips and custom sleeve that gives me balance to my left and right...
and sounded the bass was more controlled, less harsh on the mids and i can hear vocals clearly
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it will be good if Comply Foam tips can work, they are flexible and comfortable
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QUOTE(carmatic @ Jan 23 2010, 02:33 AM)
it will be good if Comply Foam tips can work, they are flexible and comfortable
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i dont know about comply tips... since the eterna's stem is kindda small than usual earphones
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t500/t400 works well with it.
tames the bass and tightens it so that it removes the boomy-ness makes it more bearable on a warmer source.

FA's stock tips are horrible, too soft to get a good seal.

Other tips i've tried are soundmagic's PL30 and UE SF5p/TF10p silicon tips, the size is the same.

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How about the sound if using PL30, UE tips? Silicon tips last longer and makes me interested tongue.gif
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How about the sound if using PL30, UE tips? Silicon tips last longer and makes me interested tongue.gif
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PL30 has the olive like foam tips which is more enduring for abuse.
It does the same to tighten the bass.

Silicon tips is a very iffy thing, some tracks they're okay some they're just too boomy - the mids are bloated.
not to forget that the IEMs itself is very picky on source.

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QUOTE(weib @ Jan 23 2010, 07:34 PM)
PL30 has the olive like foam tips which is more enduring for abuse.
It does the same to tighten the bass.

Silicon tips is a very iffy thing, some tracks they're okay some they're just too boomy - the mids are bloated.
not to forget that the IEMs itself is very picky on source.
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i could not agree more with the bolded statement.... not to mention eterna will sound horrible with bad recordings....
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just a little information for you guys. previously i owned an ie8. then about a month ago i borrowed an eterna from my friend for a week. a week later i sold my ie8 and got an eterna. haha. personally i think eterna is a really fun phone to listen to, but then ie8 definitely has more control.
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sold ie8 for eterna?? it must be really good..
need to audition.
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Good for the wallet hehe, changing IE8 to eterna still pockets alot spare change haha.

Did you guys notice that the "fischer" logo looks like the F word? I mean the "is" on "fischer" looks like "u" blink.gif

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nuuu... will be receivin mine soon.. but only have bijou3 and sp1 to compare.. biggrin.gif
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nuuu... will be receivin mine soon.. but only have bijou3 and sp1 to compare.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Feb 11 2010, 10:38 PM)
thts a start lol....
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a start to cool.gif cool.gif cool.gif or doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif depending on self discipline tongue.gif
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sp1 was initially doh.gif .. but now thumbup.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nders @ Feb 12 2010, 11:29 AM)
a start to cool.gif  cool.gif  cool.gif  or  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  depending on self discipline tongue.gif
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got it mwahaha.. test kejap lg..

omg this thing pwn!!!!!!!!!! shocking.gif
tried at vol 1(literally 1 before mute) on my clip+...
sounded similar to my modded sp1.. but wayyy more better depth n clarity + sq... rclxm9.gif

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is eterna really this boomy or is it a fit issue sweat.gif
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QUOTE(feiraron @ Feb 13 2010, 11:02 AM)
is eterna really this boomy or is it a fit issue  sweat.gif
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didnt find it boomy...
probably source.. or choice of songs..
or...............

imma basshead? but i dont like bl0ated bass.... hmm...

tried
kitaro - caravansary - 320kbps.. bass, mids, trebles and drums are just spot on..
ghost in the shell - making of a cyborg - Flac.. lots of drums.. but still sounded like i think it should.. not too much, not lacking either


maybe cranking volume would be a different story tho...
still using lowest vol.. after proper burn in baru stat blasting..
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Feb 13 2010, 10:32 AM)
got it mwahaha.. test kejap lg..

omg this thing pwn!!!!!!!!!!  shocking.gif
tried at vol 1(literally 1 before mute) on my clip+...
sounded similar to my modded sp1.. but wayyy more better depth n clarity + sq...  rclxm9.gif
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wahlawei .. got the eterna dy aa ?
congrats2 .. hehe ..

how's the bass? as claimed is it ?
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QUOTE(soulone @ Feb 13 2010, 11:40 AM)
wahlawei .. got the eterna dy aa ?
congrats2 .. hehe ..

how's the bass? as claimed is it ?
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not sure how to reply that..
if people are saying that it is too boomy.. then i disagree..
packs punch.. yes.
quality? yes.
bloated.. no.
muffles other frequency and sounds.. no.
i can say it bumps up the mid lows.. bass guitar, violins, organs.. something i like biggrin.gif..
i have to say lady gaga - just dance.. (or watever it's name is..) would suck big time.. as everything will be sooo boomy.. same as my own sp1
but then again.. i favour clarity songs.. so.. eterna works like charm here..

fy reference some stuff i listen to:
may'n - iteza gogo kyuji, (macross frontier)
noto mamiko - ichinuke, (jigoku shoujo), ashita no te (witchblade)
tokyo jihen - shuraba, (er.. jpop.. probably acid jazz/pop genre)
ali project - akai usagi, (blade of the immortal)
kitaro & los angeles symphonic - mirai e no sanka,
kalafina - oblivious. (kara no kyoukai)
kitaro - caravansary (everyone knows this song)
geinoh yamashirogumi - kaneda, tetsuo, (akira)
theatre of tragedy (gothic metal i think..)

.. come to think of it.. i havent listened to mainstream songs for quite some time..
to me they lack melody...


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damn .. that's some review ..
which meant to say damn good eterna is ..

haha .. got may'n also .. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(soulone @ Feb 13 2010, 12:34 PM)
damn .. that's some review ..
which meant to say damn good eterna is ..

haha .. got may'n also .. tongue.gif
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alamak.. ahaha...
well.. when i listen to the song i see sheryl.. so wub.gif
tapi.. bila tgk live concert.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Feb 13 2010, 12:40 PM)
alamak.. ahaha...
well.. when i listen to the song i see sheryl.. so  wub.gif
tapi.. bila tgk live concert..  sweat.gif
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i was at the may'n concert in singapore last time ..
which is ..

LOLOL .. tongue.gif

anyway,back to topic:

wonder how eterna would do justice to j-rock types of song eh ?
i mean ..
i love it on my ad300 ..
but sometimes it wish it were more bassy ..
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j rock..
is bump of chicken considered jrock?
i have a few of those.. laruku as well..
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ya i guess ..
laruku for once definitely qualifies ..
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the boomy bass is too obvious for me prolly coz the only headphones i use previously is the hd555 and im used to tight puchy bass that comes and goes away quickly...

i do enjoy the mids better than the recessed mids on the hd555.. but dang with eterna when the bass comes you'll know whos the boss...
it shoves other sound asides.. needing me to EQ to appreciate the mids (take away the bass a bit)
sounds fantastic after that...
A case in point just try to play hey there delilah by plain white T's... i can only appreciate the singer's emotion in his voice after EQ'ing
but this all is a bit expected reading through all the post at headfi on this similar thread...

and yeah fitting is very very very important... stick to deep will cause the bass to be unbearably boomy...
too shallow it will sound like inside a tin can ... only sometimes can i get that magical centre and boy the sound is worth it...
not hifi per se... just very very enjoyable... ill try with comply foam tips later and see if it would helps...

am i dissapointed? no.. i bought it fully knowing its a basshead iem and i want something portable and enjoyable...
so yeah there you go.. its time for me to enjoy the music without being too critical on the sound

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have to add a bit..

as feiraron mentioned.. the lows and the low mids are boomy..
so i compared it to original sp1.. and the lows and mids sounded too shallow for my liking..
the eterna is similar to my modded sp1 tho.. and yes.. the bump on the low frequency range maybe a bit too much for some..
as for muffling the details.. im not really sure, coz my ears r kinda sensitive to trebles n high freq sound.. they tend to hurt.. so, on eterna it's just right for me.

imagine listening to sounds in auditorium.. or.. underwater kinda atmosphere.. low frequency sounds tend to echo.. eterna has that.
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Depends on how loud you guys are listening to the music. I never find that eterna sounded boomy to me, maybe it's because I listen in not-to-high volumes. This is explained in the equal loudness contour, where the frequencies lower than 1000Hz needs to be bumped more on sound pressure level to have equal loudness in phon.

Eterna never sounded that nice out of the box. It sounded awesome after fully burned in though.
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Haha..i've been using for eterna for months now and loving it..
Its so easy to buy here in moscow...everywhere got lol... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 14 2010, 04:55 AM)
Depends on how loud you guys are listening to the music. I never find that eterna sounded boomy to me, maybe it's because I listen in not-to-high volumes. This is explained in the equal loudness contour, where the frequencies lower than 1000Hz needs to be bumped more on sound pressure level to have equal loudness in phon.

Eterna never sounded that nice out of the box. It sounded awesome after fully burned in though.
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never sounded nice is good alrdy.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Masamune @ Feb 14 2010, 09:52 AM)
Haha..i've been using for eterna for months now and loving it..
Its so easy to buy here in moscow...everywhere got lol... tongue.gif
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The thing with eterna for me is, just crank the volume and ready to rock!!!! Than u know why eterna is a fun sounding earphone.
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Feb 14 2010, 11:43 PM)
The thing with eterna for me is, just crank the volume and ready to rock!!!! Than u know why eterna is a fun sounding earphone.
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yet to pump vol..
gonna take my time burnin and crankin..
now at 3 notch from mute.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Masamune @ Feb 14 2010, 10:52 AM)
Haha..i've been using for eterna for months now and loving it..
Its so easy to buy here in moscow...everywhere got lol... tongue.gif
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Very true. You can actually find this familiar name on very single shelves at the music shops here.
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When I open the box
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shock me
only 2 tips n 1 Bi-flanges provided
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QUOTE(hoho1222 @ Feb 17 2010, 11:32 AM)
When I open the box
woooo
shock me
only 2 tips n 1 Bi-flanges provided
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not even a shirt clip laugh.gif
well at least there is one biflanges.. how many do u need actually?
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Ya the only part lacking with the eterna is the accessories. Other than that this IEM is impressive. Where else you can find an IEM which has very low microphonics, comfortable to wear, cheap, durable, good isolation, negates the need for an amp, and most importantly sounds good? Quite hard to find leh.
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Feb 17 2010, 06:57 PM)
not even a shirt clip laugh.gif
well at least there is one biflanges.. how many do u need actually?
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no lar
just a bit shock for the price I paid
luckily I got other IEM's accessories compensate laugh.gif

QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 17 2010, 07:03 PM)
Ya the only part lacking with the eterna is the accessories. Other than that this IEM is impressive. Where else you can find an IEM which has very low microphonics, comfortable to wear, cheap, durable, good isolation, negates the need for an amp, and most importantly sounds good? Quite hard to find leh.
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Now still burning in hehe
the bass n high haven come out
but the mid was quite nice n sweet
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QUOTE(hoho1222 @ Feb 18 2010, 06:52 AM)
no lar
just a bit shock for the price I paid
luckily I got other IEM's accessories compensate laugh.gif
Now still burning in hehe
the bass n high haven come out
but the mid was quite nice n sweet
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After about 50+ hours of burn in
Eterna is better than I thought
although the bass is not as strong as other bassy earphone
but the bass is stronger than Tfi 10 or phonak
N the detail is also very sweet
really is an underpriced gem

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eterna is a pair aggressive IEM

bass impact really shake your ear drum hard. I feel pain after few hrs
in quantity

soundstage quite good but i like IE8 better
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QUOTE(jycheang @ Mar 12 2010, 02:56 AM)
eterna is a pair aggressive IEM

bass impact really shake your ear drum hard. I feel pain after few hrs 
in quantity

soundstage quite good but i like IE8 better
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not to me it isnt..
but i had to eq it a bit to tone down some of the bass(if im listening to normal volume, not necessary at low volume), and correct the highs..

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got a listen to it a few days ago,
albeit not enough time for me to enjoy and experiment,
from what i heard,
bass is good (not that bassy as claimed just enough and good~)
and it shines with its isolation (which i almost constantly needed in my workplace)
one of the better one in term of isolation for me.

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QUOTE(soulone @ Mar 12 2010, 07:39 AM)
got a listen to it a few days ago,
albeit not enough time for me to enjoy and experiment,
from what i heard,
bass is good (not that bassy as claimed just enough and good~)
and it shines with its isolation (which i almost constantly needed in my workplace)
one of the better one in term of isolation for me.
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in term isolation and comfort, comply foam will be a good choice. stock bi flange give isolation but it's hurt my ears after wear for few hrs.
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QUOTE(jycheang @ Mar 12 2010, 11:45 AM)
in term isolation and comfort, comply foam will be a good choice. stock bi flange give isolation but it's hurt my ears after wear for few hrs.
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was testing not even for an hour cos' something came up, and yups, with the stock bi-flange. the owner is out of comply foam i guess last time i check with him.
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QUOTE(soulone @ Mar 12 2010, 08:43 PM)
was testing not even for an hour cos' something came up, and yups, with the stock bi-flange. the owner is out of comply foam i guess last time i check with him.
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He will order the comply soon. what's come out when u use stock bi-flange?
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QUOTE(jycheang @ Mar 12 2010, 09:42 PM)
He will order the comply soon. what's come out when u use stock bi-flange?
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hehe .. he said he can't justify paying and paying for comply only to see it disintegrate. tongue.gif

anyway, sorry but can't understand your latter part of the question.

if u mean how did sound come out, it come out just as i described above in my previous post.

to sum it : it's great but i'm not keen to part with my SP1 yet.
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i ownder if its worth it to recable the eterna....?
anyone have done it before?
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you'd be better off, getting a better amp.
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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 15 2010, 12:43 AM)
you'd be better off, getting a better amp.
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not really sure about that.. i hear minor hissing just plugging eterna into W1.. it's a sensitive iem.. :|
it does open up with the w1 though.. but i simply dont like the idea that i have to be listening at higher (more than 30%) volume just so that the hissing is not heard to my ears...
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Not many amps are designed to take IEMs.
If you design for IEMs, the headphone crowd will not buy - not enough power to drive some bigger headphones.

So have to compromise inbtwn, but i don't know abt you..
FA products in general quite hard to drive.

Listen at low volume it loses its dynamics and shine.

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at high volumes it has too much bass though.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 15 2010, 03:01 AM)
at high volumes it has too much bass though.
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agreed.. so i only use low volume on it.

QUOTE(weib @ Mar 15 2010, 01:27 AM)
Not many amps are designed to take IEMs.
If you design for IEMs, the headphone crowd will not buy - not enough power to drive some bigger headphones.

So have to compromise inbtwn, but i don't know abt you..
FA products in general quite hard to drive.

Listen at low volume it loses its dynamics and shine.
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i do find it m04r musical when plugged to a usb soundcard compared to using portable tho.. i guess ur right about this..
so.. i'd say source is very important..

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lol eterna is designed for bassheads.

If its too much bass, theres silverbullets which are more mids centric and have a lighter bass thump compared to the eternas.


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I'm still addicted to bass though hehe.
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Which one do you prefer more? How do you rate them side by side? smile.gif

QUOTE(weib @ Mar 15 2010, 05:30 PM)
lol eterna is designed for bassheads.

If its too much bass, theres silverbullets which are more mids centric and have a lighter bass thump compared to the eternas.
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depends on genres.

People who like vocals and classical, will like silverbullet.
Bassheads - rock/hip hop etc will like eterna.

Each has its strong points but they're very niche in their strengths, you can't make it a general purpose phone. Though both a very musical and fun.

If you want something that takes the mold of your source and amp which you pair with your music, then RE0.

But you need a good amp to bring out the bass.
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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 16 2010, 10:41 AM)
depends on genres.

People who like vocals and classical, will like silverbullet.
Bassheads - rock/hip hop etc will like eterna.

Each has its strong points but they're very niche in their strengths, you can't make it a general purpose phone. Though both a very musical and fun.

If you want something that takes the mold of your source and amp which you pair with your music, then RE0.

But you need a good amp to bring out the bass.
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hows the vocal of the silver bullet compared with eterna?
i find eterna's vocal slightly off.. i think.. sweat.gif
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I've noticed that people who play hifi or are into high end setups, they'll prefer silver bullet for the soundstage is very wide and you catch more details plus the sound is more "balance" sound.

These people are 25 and above..mainly listen to jazz, vocals and classical.

Those who don't, would rather the more fun sounding eterna

These people are 18-20+, mainly listen to pop and rock and hip hop/RnB.

I guess with age as you grow older, you'd tend to seek out details and "accuracy" of timbre rather than just boom boom bass.

But I'm kinda like a hybrid, I like to listen to all genres, so I pick IEMs to my mood.

Jazz/Vocals - Silverbullet
Hiphop/pop - Eterna
Serious audition - RE0
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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 16 2010, 10:53 PM)
I've noticed that people who play hifi or are into high end setups, they'll prefer silver bullet for the soundstage is very wide and you catch more details plus the sound is more "balance" sound.

These people are 25 and above..mainly listen to jazz, vocals and classical.

Those who don't, would rather the more fun sounding eterna

These people are 18-20+, mainly listen to pop and rock and hip hop/RnB.

I guess with age as you grow older, you'd tend to seek out details and "accuracy" of timbre rather than just boom boom bass.

But I'm kinda like a hybrid, I like to listen to all genres, so I pick IEMs to my mood.

Jazz/Vocals - Silverbullet
Hiphop/pop - Eterna
Serious audition - RE0
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Solution : Listen to everything.

If i really really need to tune the sound, i usually just punch in some EQ settings, because changing setup is annoying and time consuming.
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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 16 2010, 10:53 PM)
I've noticed that people who play hifi or are into high end setups, they'll prefer silver bullet for the soundstage is very wide and you catch more details plus the sound is more "balance" sound.

These people are 25 and above..mainly listen to jazz, vocals and classical.

Those who don't, would rather the more fun sounding eterna

These people are 18-20+, mainly listen to pop and rock and hip hop/RnB.

I guess with age as you grow older, you'd tend to seek out details and "accuracy" of timbre rather than just boom boom bass.

But I'm kinda like a hybrid, I like to listen to all genres, so I pick IEMs to my mood.

Jazz/Vocals - Silverbullet
Hiphop/pop - Eterna
Serious audition - RE0
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from the age rating.. damn i AM pretending to be young~.. ahaha...
and i consider eterna's bass to be just slightly boomy, and eq'able to be very warm and full, just the way i like it. smile.gif
but would love to try the silver bullet sometime.. any lowyatians using this?
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For me I don't touch EQ even how awesome it is.
Thats just me, a purist.

So I just have multiple IEMs to suit my mood LOL
But don't take my word as gospel, just how I like it.
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Anybody here got a PL50? Wanna know how it matches up.

Was a previous owner of the PL50 and I lost it somehow sad.gif
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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 17 2010, 01:14 AM)
For me I don't touch EQ even how awesome it is.
Thats just me, a purist.

So I just have multiple IEMs to suit my mood LOL
But don't take my word as gospel, just how I like it.
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It depends, IEMs are very different than speakers. There's resonance in high-mid frequencies and high frequencies at default on all IEMs. That's why sleekaudio SA6 have configurable settings to compensate this, their website on SA6 did mention about the resonance effect inside ear canals on IEMs.

I find the eterna just perfect for me that the frequency response on my listening volume is near flat. The proof is that binaural recording sounded nothing short but awesome to me, the 3d effect is easily heard.

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Mar 17 2010, 01:32 AM)
Anybody here got a PL50? Wanna know how it matches up.

Was a previous owner of the PL50 and I lost it somehow sad.gif
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PL50 is a crappy iem imho.
everyone who auditioned them after hearing the Eterna and silver bullet, gave me a dirty look.

I'd prefer the pl30 anytime.


QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 17 2010, 08:49 AM)
It depends, IEMs are very different than speakers. There's resonance in high-mid frequencies and high frequencies at default on all IEMs. That's why sleekaudio SA6 have configurable settings to compensate this, their website on SA6 did mention about the resonance effect inside ear canals on IEMs.

I find the eterna just perfect for me that the frequency response on my listening volume is near flat. The proof is that binaural recording sounded nothing short but awesome to me, the 3d effect is easily heard.
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I would be inclined to agree, but I've never used EQ - not that i can remember
I don't see a reason to start using it now.

For me, i'd just play around with tips to find the sound i'm looking for.
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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 17 2010, 09:07 AM)
PL50 is a crappy iem imho.
everyone who auditioned them after hearing the Eterna and silver bullet, gave me a dirty look.

I'd prefer the pl30 anytime.
I would be inclined to agree, but I've never used EQ - not that i can remember
I don't see a reason to start using it now.

For me, i'd just play around with tips to find the sound i'm looking for.
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if u dont need it.. then better not..
eq is just an option tho.. and i still prefer not to eq, coz unless proper parametric.. things just wont sound so natural after eq'ing...

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Ya graphics equalizer are not as good as parametric ones.
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Seems like Silver Bullet is obviously better than PL-50 but how much better? Can compare? smile.gif

QUOTE(weib @ Mar 17 2010, 09:07 AM)
PL50 is a crappy iem imho.
everyone who auditioned them after hearing the Eterna and silver bullet, gave me a dirty look.

I'd prefer the pl30 anytime.
I would be inclined to agree, but I've never used EQ - not that i can remember
I don't see a reason to start using it now.

For me, i'd just play around with tips to find the sound i'm looking for.
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how do you measure enjoyment? lol
It just is.
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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 17 2010, 09:07 AM)
PL50 is a crappy iem imho.
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I'd prefer the pl30 anytime.

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We share quite an opposite opinion.

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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 17 2010, 01:14 AM)
For me I don't touch EQ even how awesome it is.
Thats just me, a purist.

So I just have multiple IEMs to suit my mood LOL
But don't take my word as gospel, just how I like it.
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HAHA ~ I don't play with those EQ most of time i listen

want feel the original sound from CD
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Mar 17 2010, 05:57 PM)
We share quite an opposite opinion.
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whats your take on pl50 vs eterna? smile.gif

btw, with the PL50, the driver is very, very low profile, i can even sleep on my side without having my song interrupted, can i do the same with the Eterna? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jycheang @ Mar 17 2010, 08:42 PM)
HAHA ~ I don't play with those EQ most of time i listen

want feel the original sound from CD
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while listening to an IEM, if u need to alter the EQ to match ur liking, obviously that IEM is not ur cup of tea.


QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Mar 20 2010, 09:43 PM)
whats your take on pl50 vs eterna? smile.gif

btw, with the PL50, the driver is very, very low profile, i can even sleep on my side without having my song interrupted, can i do the same with the Eterna? hmm.gif
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PL50 is mids oriented while Eterna is bass oriented. So u like mids/vocal more or bass? Each got pros and cons, one can like one IEM but that doesnt mean it suits u. Best is audition them.


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Hmm... Thanks for the info!

Actually i'm already planning to get an Eterna, just that i used to own a PL50, so wanna use that as a benchmark on what i should expect laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Mar 21 2010, 12:00 AM)
Hmm... Thanks for the info!

Actually i'm already planning to get an Eterna, just that i used to own a PL50, so wanna use that as a benchmark on what i should expect laugh.gif
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expect lots of bass.. nice quality ones tho... but need some burnin to tighten the sound.. initially a bit too b00my..
and also very smooth sounding... also warm sounding, a bit dark as well.
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Nevermind, anything i don't like, can just tweak it off with RockBox's awesome EQ laugh.gif

the transition from a bass-shy PL50 to a bass-ful Eterna might take some time laugh.gif

btw, so can i lie down sideways on my bed without the music being interrupted? Thats prolly my favourite thing about the PL-50s, super low profile drivers laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Mar 21 2010, 01:30 AM)
Nevermind, anything i don't like, can just tweak it off with RockBox's awesome EQ laugh.gif

the transition from a bass-shy PL50 to a bass-ful Eterna might take some time laugh.gif

btw, so can i lie down sideways on my bed without the music being interrupted? Thats prolly my favourite thing about the PL-50s, super low profile drivers laugh.gif
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it's huge.. at first i do have some problems fitting it.. but i figured out and got perfect fit everytime comfortably.. but as for lying on side.. im not really sure if that's possible..
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awww... guess i gotta give that up for better sound quality laugh.gif

the PL50 lies flush with my ears sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Mar 21 2010, 01:47 AM)
awww... guess i gotta give that up for better sound quality laugh.gif

the PL50 lies flush with my ears sweat.gif
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u'll have to figure out the rest.. again, it's best if u give it a try

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wow, thanks for the pics bro!

Guess i won't be sleeping with this baby sweat.gif laugh.gif

now... time to collect FUNDS! drool.gif
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can use both what.
Why you make it seem likes it's either, or.

Eterna for the road, PL50 for the bed.

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Coz i lost my PL50 few weeks back. Left it in a restaurant sad.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Mar 21 2010, 05:07 PM)
Coz i lost my PL50 few weeks back. Left it in a restaurant sad.gif
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aiyoh... so careless...

oh well... lama x pergi... mana baru datang?

(^-^) time to get new stuffs~!
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guys

Just to let you know FA is launching their stuff already

http://www.fischeraudio.com/index.php

Toughstuff/old skool and master series.

I will review this.
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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 22 2010, 12:04 AM)
guys

Just to let you know FA is launching their stuff already

http://www.fischeraudio.com/index.php

Toughstuff/old skool and master series.

I will review this.
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I will probably review some (or may be all) of them as well.
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oooo this i'll wait...
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hmph... it's at sgpore liao... i wonder if got msia dealer pulak in the future...
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Maybe no, malaysia don't even have koss official distributor, all was channeled from singapore.
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opinion on eterna were ....

nice high & nice mid , but does not stand out as much bass ...
as for the bass ... use stock tip if u are basshead + like mid bass ... (but the stock tips is very uncomfortable and i find the bass kinda too much or bloated? )

much better after u change the tips , the bass ...change a lot ...
and a lil slow ... so i dun think u wish to play fast song with it ...

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i havent touched the tip yet.. xD
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Mar 22 2010, 05:47 PM)
i havent touched the tip yet.. xD
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Mar 22 2010, 06:53 PM)
knowing u... mod it kaw kaw lar...
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QUOTE(angelic88 @ Mar 22 2010, 05:20 PM)
opinion on eterna were ....

nice high & nice mid , but does not stand out as much bass ...
as for the bass ... use stock tip if u are basshead + like mid bass ... (but the stock tips is very uncomfortable and i find the bass kinda too much or bloated? )

much better after u change the tips , the bass ...change a lot ... 
and a lil slow ... so i dun think u wish to play fast song with it ...
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nice high? Hmm~ from my memories, the high is quite dull.

=X maybe i am wrong
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Mar 23 2010, 12:17 AM)
nice high? Hmm~ from my memories, the high is quite dull.

=X maybe i am wrong
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i find the highs quite sweet, i prefer it over my se777.. from my memory re0 has more depth and details on the highs though..
but having full bass and low-mids is gonna bring the highs and separation down neways..

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well , ya , u can hear the high is there, but kinda shine on bass more ...

high not as good as im716 though , lol , but well , that is different case ,no?


oh, eterna dun really need an amp IMO , kinda of too easy to drive .... add resistor to it? XD


@DaEMoNteNTAcLe : u should try changing the tip biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(angelic88 @ Mar 23 2010, 07:32 PM)
well , ya , u can hear the high is there, but kinda shine on bass more ...

high not as good as im716 though , lol , but well , that is different case ,no?
oh, eterna dun really need an amp IMO , kinda of too easy to drive .... add resistor to it? XD
@DaEMoNteNTAcLe : u should try changing the tip biggrin.gif
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actually i did try it for a bit after seeing ur post..
kinda like it with the sherwood's bi-flange, seems to bump the mids a bit.. but it's a little too long so eterna doesnt sit properly on the ears anymore...
probably will do that later after i found some suitable tips to be used..
i think i wanna get a slightly longer tip for that.
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I didn't touch my eterna for a whole week and in that period I only used the hippo shroom. Now I'm using back the eterna I understand what others said about their first impression: bass is kinda overwhelming.

But now I understands what it matters is to find the best "synergy" between the song-source-amp-IEM to get the best result. Songs are affected like IEMs too by means of different mics used, recording position, the mastering etc (even the monitoring speaker/headphones used will affect the sound of the songs). Some songs that sounds exceptional on the hippo shroom sounded lifeless on the eterna and vice versa.

I prefer vocals on eterna though, hippo shroom sounded a bit sharp and I never heard people's voice in real life like that. Eterna's vocal sounded more natural.

Glad I got both biggrin.gif

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failed to find custom tip , perhaps wait for jaben ss15 to open to buy some nice tip XD
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Which model has fitting problem? smile.gif

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failed to find custom tip , perhaps wait for jaben ss15 to open to buy some nice tip XD
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I didn't touch my eterna for a whole week and in that period I only used the hippo shroom. Now I'm using back the eterna I understand what others said about their first impression: bass is kinda overwhelming.

But now I understands what it matters is to find the best "synergy" between the song-source-amp-IEM to get the best result. Songs are affected like IEMs too by means of different mics used, recording position, the mastering etc (even the monitoring speaker/headphones used will affect the sound of the songs). Some songs that sounds exceptional on the hippo shroom sounded lifeless on the eterna and vice versa.

I prefer vocals on eterna though, hippo shroom sounded a bit sharp and I never heard people's voice in real life like that. Eterna's vocal sounded more natural.

Glad I got both biggrin.gif
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eterna , lol , kinda stuff the tip too deep , the side of the flange kinda hurt my ear doh.gif
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eterna , lol , kinda stuff the tip too deep , the side of the flange kinda hurt my ear doh.gif
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custom tips? go to sountex at the curve and ask them for custom sleeve... it'll cost u a bit....

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How much for the custom sleeves? I do know custom tips are like rm200-400, can buy another eterna lol.
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is that custom tip or custom shell?
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How much for the custom sleeves? I do know custom tips are like rm200-400, can buy another eterna lol.
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bahathir did it for rm130++. and i did the custom sleeve for rm160.

huge improvement lol! but a bit costly
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where did you do the custom sleeve? How was the improvement compared to stock bi-flange.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 28 2010, 10:13 PM)
where did you do the custom sleeve? How was the improvement compared to stock bi-flange.
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custom tips? go to sountex at the curve and ask them for custom sleeve... it'll cost u a bit....
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where did you do the custom sleeve? How was the improvement compared to stock bi-flange.
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improvement? comfy for one.... and it settled my left ears-pain problem when using eterna's bi flange. sounds more define since u have the best isolation (and of course its the best, its custom brows.gif)
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 29 2010, 02:14 AM)
improvement? comfy for one.... and it settled my left ears-pain problem when using eterna's bi flange. sounds more define since u have the best isolation (and of course its the best, its custom brows.gif)
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kinda interested over here..
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Phew lucky me the stock bi-flange didn't pose any problem to my ears.
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Mar 29 2010, 01:30 PM)
mind putting up some picture?
kinda interested over here..
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would love to see it bro geno, hope you or anyone else who have it can put it up .. thx ! smile.gif
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Stock Bi-flange also is too small for me
So I use the UE bi-flange
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wah you all hardcore or really love the eterna lol
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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 29 2010, 06:35 PM)
wah you all hardcore or really love the eterna lol
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would love to see it bro geno, hope you or anyone else who have it can put it up .. thx ! smile.gif
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the custom sleeve also fit with eterna
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the custom sleeve also fit with eterna
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that looks like...
some mutant gummy bears.. laugh.gif
what's the material actually? stiffness? elastic?

looks aside, seems like that would fit ur ears quite well + good isolation...
thx for putting it up..
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that looks like...
some mutant gummy bears..  laugh.gif
what's the material actually? stiffness? elastic?

looks aside, seems like that would fit ur ears quite well + good isolation...
thx for putting it up..
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yes, it isolate really well, sometimes too well and usually i'll get scold by my friends for "not listening to them"
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mwahaha changed to comply tips...
it did alters the sound a bit..
but what's important here is that after changing the tips, amping with the w1 really shows the difference in detail level on this iem
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Ha updates of the new models -

Old skool -

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Frequency response: 20-20000 Hz
Sensitivity: 112 dB
Maximum input power: 100 mW

Lambada -

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Frequency response: 16-20000 Hz
Sensitivity: 106 dB
Impedance: 16 Ohm
Max. input power: 60 mW

Tough stuff -

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Frequency response: 16-20000 Hz
Sensitivity: 91 dB
Impedance: 16 Ohm
Max. input power: 60 mW

Cepheus -

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Frequency response: 20-20000 Hz
Sensitivity: 114 dB
Impedance: 32 ohms
Max. input power: 100 mW

Armature Dvuhdrayvernye headphones DBA-02. -

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SPECIFICATIONS
Type radiator: double balanced armature.
Frequency Response: 20-24000 Hz.
Sensitivity: 108 dB.
Impedance: 43 ohms.
Input power: 60 mW.
Color: clear / blue.

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Reviews of their flag ship dual BA IEm -
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Taken from their website -

Headphones -

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Within the headphone series FA02 and FA03 is that one is closed and one is opened but the mold is the same.
It is a balance headphone, so you can use a balance dac and amp for this with detachable cables.

Quite interesting, current MSRP is 4990 rubles - abt SGD 239 or RM 586

Also If you're interested in any models let me know so I can do a pre-order for you.
I believe not all the models won't be stocked, so let me know early.

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Armature Dvuhdrayvernye----> nice.... and its cost around rm450+-

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finally some cheap dual ba?
wait for ClieOs to review i guess..
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prolly need an amp 43ohms.

My stocks coming in april end.

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Mar 30 2010, 09:34 AM)
finally some cheap dual ba?
wait for ClieOs to review i guess..
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hope it have the dark siggy of eterna+the BA fast punchyness... if it does... this gonna be a winner...
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eterna wif more refined mids n highs?
hopefully.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(weib @ Mar 30 2010, 09:56 AM)
prolly need an amp 43ohms.

My stocks coming in april end.
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does that includes the.. er dual armature thingy as well? blush.gif

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Mar 30 2010, 10:59 AM)
eterna wif more refined mids n highs?
hopefully.. biggrin.gif
does that includes the.. er dual armature thingy as well?  blush.gif
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yup everything.
I have 3 pre-orders already haha
Its that hot.

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Man, we need a dedicated shop so that we can go and audition. fer shizzle.
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zzzzzz
I kena racun kaw-kaw adi
I was looking to get dac/amp next but then the DBA reviews pop-up on head-fi. sad.gif
Somemore the heard they say fischer's headdhone is good too.
Now I'm waiting for Clieos's review.

This one too rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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160usd O_O

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I am not sure when I will get the samples (or which models actually), but it should be within these two weeks.
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People from HQ is going to drop by this weekend for a product demo.

If you have any question pertaining the new models please ask away and i'll get them to answer for you.
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QUOTE(weib @ Apr 9 2010, 03:20 PM)
People from HQ is going to drop by this weekend for a product demo.

If you have any question pertaining the new models please ask away and i'll get them to answer for you.
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Armature Dvuhdrayvernye
retail price here.. (so that includes shipping to malaysia)
sound quality..
bass depth n width.. (eterna rated from 8hz.. this one from 20hz.. >_<)
highs depth n width (eterna a bit lacking in soundstage on the high freqs.. )
overall soundstage...

umm.. seems like im asking for review laugh.gif
why dont u ask them the idea and target listener behind this headphone.. vs eterna.. (some eterna users arnd here so good reference)

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I have same questions as daemon, but on the fischer headphones smile.gif
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http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f103/review-...tml#post6544786

A little update on the DBA-02:
I'm beginning to wonder if these border on top tier. I don't want to say they do, simply because I don't own an IEM that's proven to be in the top tier technically, but these improve on my Westone 2 enough to have to ponder it. Honestly, I can't believe they're this good at $90 less than the Westone 2.
I've noticed that they are fairly bass light, but they don't seem to feel missing bass. Usually I really notice when bass is missing, like on the RE0 and at the time the PFE for me, but these seem to be special. I think it's because they have just enough impact and just that bit much more bass than the RE0 that it isn't a problem. You can always hear the bass, and you can always tell when the bass drum hits for example. It's really interesting how it seems so complete but yet is in the grand scheme, fairly light on bass.
Perhaps one could think of it as RE0 bass done right, though it doesn't really share that much in common in the bass. It's just enough for it to be there and feel it and still be light, it's perfect. These make the Westone 2 seem bassy.
After listening to the DBA-02 for a few hours, I switched back to the Westone 2. My initial impressions were that the Westone 2 didn't have near the extension in the highs, nor the sparkle. The Westone 2 has a much smaller soundstage, feeling almost claustrophobic and congested in soundstage in comparison. The DBA-02 seems to offer an extra layer of clarity across the spectrum compared to the Westone 2. The Westone 2 does sound fuller and is bassier. This leads me to feel like the DBA-02 is more balanced and neutral than the Westone 2 that I thought was so neutral. The DBA-02 feels exactly that, balanced. Generally there isn't much to say about the sound signature, everything feels balanced and fairly neutral, and there are no particular characteristics that seem to pertain to the mids. They're just there, they do what they are supposed to do with detail and accuracy, there's an amount of them in balance with the rest, and there's nothing wrong with them yet nothing particularly special about them. They're simply good, no complaints, they do their job.
These are a fair bit more forgiving than my Westone 2s. These seem to be more listenable with a lot more music than the Westone 2. With the 2s I tended to only listen to the music I had ripped myself and good quality downloads opposed to average downloads. With the DBA-02, I can listen to most of my music again. That doesn't mean they lack resolution and detail, as they don't, they just don't seem to be as critical of your source.

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seems promising.......
re0 with impact bass...
can get ini.. maybe next month or two.. laugh.gif

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the review sounds very promising. i've tried the re0 the other day at jaben but find that the bass is a little lacking for my taste. if this improves on that then it may just be something i'm looking for
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Back from the meeting with the HQ guys -

They came out an impressive range of products with good build quality and range with attractive prices.

FA is a non believer of Armature drivers, they believe that dynamics can do the same job, just as good but they're making it just to show the world they have the know hows.

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Initial Impressions -

DBA - 02

DBA 02 is like a cross btwn UE700 and UM2
Unlike the SF5p, the integration is much better instead of having only highs and lows and a hollow mids.

The bass quantity of UM2 and the highs of the UE700
However within its tiny mix.

The DBA is 2 single armature and not 1 + 2 as rumors has

From the VP of FA is that the new eterna will be upgraded.

The new Eterna will be have acoustic dampening to reduce the bass boom.
They will be looking at re-working the cables to improve it.

FA end goal is to provide affordable solutions for consumer class audiophiles, so they're targeting trendy aesthetics together with good quality builds with good sound and reasonable priced products.

Their vision is that everyone can have a few pairs of FA based products to suit your mood and music instead of buying just one and having to hop around brands to suit your musical taste and mood of the day.

Much like woman with their clothes.

I have with me the FA002 which is suppose to compete with the HD650 which is the top seller in russia..

So lets see if its a giant killer...

Some pics of the event -

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Lastly me, trying out the FA002 -

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what's your preliminary opinion on the FA002?

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needs to burn in lol.
Like most of Eterna products, they take some time to settle in.
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QUOTE(weib @ Apr 12 2010, 06:12 PM)
needs to burn in lol.
Like most of Eterna products, they take some time to settle in.
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Wow bro.Where is this event was held?Looks nice.I'll wait for DBA-02.Keep me updated brows.gif
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Added on April 12, 2010, 8:29 pmIntial impression of the FA002 -

It feels abit claustrophobic even for an open can, I know it'll open up in time..
The Eterna took about 250 hours to settle, first 50 to make it decent.

I believe with the headphones, it'll take abit more time before I can evaluate it properly.

But its is on the darker side, bass is akin to my M50 without the boom.
It's quite efficient though, easy to drive but pairing will be crucial.

It seriously feels like strapping 2 sub to your head and playing it.
The cool thing about open cans is that the bass will not have boominess yet the punch is there.
Totally unlike grados yet not like M50s which has a very claustrophobic feel.

This is something great for bass heads and people who like their bass tight.
However now the music seems like its playing behind a veil/screen.

Its opening up slowly after a night of burning in, so I'll do a serious evaluation on the weekend and run through many sources.

But like the eterna I'm guessing that it needs a very clean and dynamic source to bring out hte best. As this headphones is very "colored" if you add in a warmer/darker amp/source will make sound soon too dark that the highs will be rolled off.

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A small news update: I just got confirmation on the EMS packages Fischer Audio are sending me. Maybe this weekend but most likely I will get them early next week. Still not quite sure which models they have sent me though, but my guess is all the new IEM and perhaps all the big cas as well, as one of the package weighted close to 2kg tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 13 2010, 09:08 PM)
A small news update: I just got confirmation on the EMS packages Fischer Audio are sending me. Maybe this weekend but most likely I will get them early next week. Still not quite sure which models they have sent me though, but my guess is all the new IEM and perhaps all the big cas as well, as one of the package weighted close to 2kg tongue.gif
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guess have to wait for another 2 weeks b4 gettin a review?
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Probably. I can give an initial impression but the final review is going to take time, consider there will be quite a few of them needed to burn-in and I want to have the time for serious audition and comparison.
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Probably. I can give an initial impression but the final review is going to take time, consider there will be quite a few of them needed to burn-in and I want to have the time for serious audition and comparison.
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I believe there are many who are anxious for the reviews after such high ratings coming from ClieOS regarding the eterna not too long ago.
Lets pray that the new offerings would exceed expectations again. cool.gif wink.gif
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QUOTE(TheBouncer @ Apr 14 2010, 02:37 AM)
I believe there are many who are anxious for the reviews after such high ratings coming from ClieOS regarding the eterna not too long ago.
Lets pray that the new offerings would exceed expectations again.  cool.gif  wink.gif
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Agreed. I am one of those ppl...hehe biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

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I'm gonna start making review on earphones too like ClieOS.But mine is low end budget.So I think I'll start off with these after I get my salary. laugh.gif
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Three days later....

I feel like my swan has finally awoken from being an ugly duckling.

I paired it up with my Fuze and FrankenCmoyBB which I have been mericlessly tweaking with endless comparisons btwn component.
From my initial impression, I knew this would be pair with a cleaner amp because this open cans can really kick you in the face with bass; i get abit motion sick at times from the bass.

When I first got it, it was crazily punchy.
I could feel my head spring with each beat... this is a bass head wet dream and I mean those you can handle the strong stuff.



The extra cool thing about the bass it doesn't feel boxy from the open designed.
The thick foam pads around the ears helps isolate the sound which played a big part in its imaging.

I've heard their IEM equilibrium the last time and had the same experience but in a smaller way. Those who have it or heard it will know what i mean, the music turns into High definition and not Hi fidelity.

Presentation of the music is that you're in the same room the music is played on stage which is the same level as you.

It its amplified with this huge cans, it makes the music larger than how the can seem.
Before the driver settled it was quite un-listen-able. Too in your face that you'd get tired from the music.

Today, as i plugged it in everything opened up.
The bass subsided and the forwardness gone, the soundstage is in your head.

It feels like carrying 2 boom boxes on your shoulders and having a pseudo imaging that makes it feel weird yet a very fun experience that you've never experience with any other Cans.

It is a fetish for most people and to me as an audio adventure, my kind.

Something you have to try to really learn of its uniqueness.

 

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