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SUSOptiplex330
post Jan 5 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 5 2011, 12:19 PM)
points taken.  Sometimes it is hard to justify the cost of using energy saving stuff...just wanna play a role heh..
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Pana V uses 415W. But with movies with lot of dark scene, it will use less than this and may be as low as 100W.
Sony may be 115W. It will be 115W regardless of bright or dark scene.

So if you do indeed like Plasma, I wouldn't worry too much about this energy stuff.

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post Jan 5 2011, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jan 5 2011, 04:53 PM)
Lol must be same salesman who tries hard explain to me and my family @ Desa home theater. LCD no life span = I had a wtf moment doh.gif . But hey since I know something about all these stuff, it doesnt bother me to listen what he explain and see if I can pick something else that I didnt know yet. No harm right? tongue.gif

I think the main issue with Plasma is STILL the burn-in prob on station image + the reflection on bright light/sunlight. These 2 are the main reason i got 2 unit of LG 47LE7500 LED TV. Since I will be watching the SD astro in 4:3 standard in long hours with 2 black bar on each side all the time and other kind of still image stuff. Plasma TV do not like this kind of setup. And then on top of that my Living room is a row of glass window with direct sunlight. Plasma will perform real horrible here.
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Both TV have pros and cons and what you said of Plasma are correct. But I was told for SD Astro, Plasma gives better pictures. The word "better" means absolutely nothing unless you go compare them yourself.

As for window. I think as long as the window is not behind where you are sitting, may not be a problem.

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post Jan 6 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jan 6 2011, 11:32 AM)
if u still have those Sony WEGA CRT *those with woofer speaker, its sound system > all these flat panel anyday its even good enough not to bother switching on home theater setup. laugh.gif
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I have those Sony and was very surprised as to how good the Pana 50U sound is.

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post Jan 6 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Jan 6 2011, 03:44 PM)
didn't you said your plasma sound bad before this?
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I said the media player decoding of sound into stereo was not as good as I expected. However, the Plasma's sound was very good.

On the other hand, since I am a newbie, it could be my setting being the culprit instead.


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post Feb 4 2011, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(willy7774 @ Feb 4 2011, 04:17 PM)
Although my budget was small around <RM2K, I had problems to decide between Plasma / LED or even an LCD, since price of LCD is getting much cheaper for a 40-42 inch full HD.  I was at this shop in Taipan which same row with OCBC bank which is the first corner shop when u drive (1-way).  The sales person looks like chindian explains very well btw Plasma & LED.  The conclusion is whether the buyer wants an LCD LED or a Plasma TV (full HD or HD ready) and what actually satisfies the most when the buyer compare the picture contrast and quality.  This shop has Astro Beyond and I could clearly see huge difference btw an LED and Plasma - But PLEASE don't compare the both due to two different technologies.  Best to compare LED to LED with another brand or Plasma to Plasma with diff brand - that make more sense and logic.

I would say Plasma with full HD with a high contrast was better in color contrast and the display was very clear which I felt it shows the original color of what exactly on the other side. Again the difference btw HD Ready and Full HD there is difference in terms of contrast within Plasma. Panasonic 40inch was selling at RM1799 HD Ready.

Unfortunately I was recommended for Samsung LED which of course brighter in color due to LED back lite.  Due to budget constraint I bought a Philips 32 inch LED PFL5605 for RM1770 with extended warranty (3 + 2 years) at Legends SS2/75 - the lowest in town I guess.

[/b] Hopefully I can get another unit which would be a Plasma 40 or 42 inch but first read this link if someone still prefers for PLASMA - http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/articles/pl...een-differences

Never ever purchase a TV from Harvey Norman due to the price is away higher then other shops.
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2 things to consider when choosing between Plasma and LED.

1. Consider the brightness of your house TV room and the showroom room. Plasma works better in normal room and LED in very bright room. Big chain stores lighting are super bright which suits LED better but you don't see those type of brightness in normal house.

2. Consider Plasma screen's reflection which can be a problem in some house. But some LED has same amount of reflection.
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post Feb 5 2011, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(willy7774 @ Feb 5 2011, 07:00 PM)

2. The reason I give plasma the edge is in the quality of non-HD programming. Regular standard Dish (Astro analog) signal will look great on Panasonic, while it looks horrible on LCD Full HD -> Old Astro cannot work well with Full HD but will look better with HD ready UNLESS you use Full HD with Astro Beyond.

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I was told mid-range Samsung and LG's Plasma are better than the mid-range Panasonic Plasma for normal Astro. Much better.
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post Feb 6 2011, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(willy7774 @ Feb 5 2011, 07:41 PM)
Also as below:
The lcd tvs have higher brightness and no chance of any screen burn. They are also available in thinner designs and they are lighter. When comparing picture quality the plasma tv have more life like colours, higher contrast and blacks that are blacker than lcd tvs.
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In short, in normal or dim room, nothing beats Plasma for watching MOVIES in term of picture quality and price. Not even the far more expensive LED. Many people do not realize that.





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post Feb 6 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Feb 6 2011, 05:27 PM)
Agree, and this is why I am getting another plasma, was watching LG(Full HD LCD) in my sister's house, and I could feel the strain in my eyes...ok, granted it was not a calibrated set, but still rather taxing on my plasma-trained eyes.
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if LCD could strain your eyes then LED will bring tears to your eyes.
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post Feb 6 2011, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Feb 6 2011, 09:41 PM)
So what is the appeal of LED again?
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Sex appeal. It's slim and expensive and touted as latest technology, never mind picture quality is not as good as Plasma in normal to dim room. In brightly lighted room, they generally are the better choice.


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post Feb 7 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(kl87 @ Feb 7 2011, 08:23 AM)
hi , need some advice here,

plan to get a pana 50' U series plasma. but after seeing the demo  set , quite disappointed with the mirror effect on it. can actually see myself when the screen is totally black ....

can anyone recommend any other plasma tv for me? serious buyer here.

hopefully:
1. <RM4k
2. >40"
3. no nid any other free gift, just the tv set
4. plasma
5. 5 years warranty

thx~
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Get the V series.

And yes,
screen reflection is the No.1 problem of Plasma.
Some LED has the same amount of reflection as Plasma.
LCD have the least reflection.

But on picture quality in normal/dim room, Plasma has the best and LCD the worst. One way out is to draw the curtain during day time viewing or more evening time viewing.



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post Feb 7 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Feb 7 2011, 11:12 AM)
if compare between full HD plasma and LED (with IPS)... which one are better?
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IMO, for normal to dim room, LED may be on par with (but not exceed) Plasma for watching movies but at much much higher price.

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post Feb 9 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(aquos @ Feb 9 2011, 10:00 PM)
For me the best reason to choose plasma is viewing comfort. Important for kids
and older folks like me. Just replaced my Full HD LCD to LG plasma HD ready 42 inch
only 1.7k and 90% used for astro so loving it.
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Ha. Soon you will get people saying you are stupid to change from "New Technology" LCD/LED to "Old & Extinct Technology" Plasma. blush.gif



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post Feb 15 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Feb 15 2011, 04:47 PM)
currently so in love with sony led tv + its simple sleek design!! as my living room only can fit 32' im so into getting one at only rm2800 at senq!! is it a good buy??
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Don't know about you. I buy TV for the picture quality when watching movies. I do not buy TV because the TV bezel/cabinet looks nice.

It's a personal taste but I don't like Sony's color. Try this experiment. Go look at the red flower in your garden. Then go look at the same red flower on Sony. Do they look the same?



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post Feb 15 2011, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Feb 15 2011, 09:09 PM)
i wonder if u already have a look at sony's new led tvs and properly adjusted the settings to the best? i personally think the PQ for their new led tvs is good
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I have been to Sony center will rows of TVs ranging from LCD to LED but I do not know their model number. Picture sharpness, yes. Brilliant color, yes. Very bright, yes. Natural red color, no.


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post Feb 18 2011, 07:19 AM

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How this is very strong words by a long established & respected AV magazine on a top of the line LED.

"You’re after the best possible picture, as plasma still rules the picture quality roost, and Samsung’s plasma sets are excellent performers"

http://www.avguide.com/review/samsung-un46...00?src=Playback

While there many things great about LED, generally speaking, it's very difficult to beat Plasma for picture quality.


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post Mar 1 2011, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Mar 1 2011, 08:21 AM)
lots of the new LED lineup have local dimming.
could quite possibly surpass the picture quality of the current plasma, with all the good qualities of an LED.

so i guess it's wiser to wait for these to be available before buying anything. them LG's even have full led backlight and ISFccc option.
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That is assuming Plasma technology is standing still and LED moving ahead.


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post Mar 23 2011, 11:37 PM

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Plasma generally have better picture quality than LCD or LED when it comes to movies (not cartoon).

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post Mar 24 2011, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Mar 24 2011, 01:41 PM)

i tot plasma was dead! laugh.gif

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The funny thing is, the dead Plasma picture quality is still better than the living LCD/LED for movies. Proof that new is not necessarily better.

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post Mar 30 2011, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Mar 26 2011, 08:00 AM)
the general consensus is that
plasma = bad = dead = outdated
lcd = good = better = current
led = superb = best = future

so buy led and be part of the future!

but yeah,
if you need to ask, then just buy anything that looks nice to your eyes (which would most probably be led anyway). whistling.gif
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This is coming from the typical Malaysian school of thought called "newer must be better" and never use their own eyes to judge. Granted for cartoon, LED/LCD may be nicer than Plasma for picture quality.



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post Mar 31 2011, 11:24 AM

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If buying TV is like choosing a wife, this would be the scenario.

LED are like an expensive movie star with expensive make up. Upon first look, everybody will be dazzled by her sharp vivid color and you must have her. Very expensive to marry. After living with her for a while, find the dazzle while great for daytime viewing, it is too irritating for night time viewing. While her make up does give vivid color but after a while you realize it is not natural looking. More like Elizabeth Taylor with make up.

Plasma are plain looking lady. No make up. No dazzle. Cheap to marry. After you have lived with her for sometime, you start to realize because she has no make up, her skin tone are natural like a 18 years old girl. So easy on the eyes.

So there you have it. Unless you actually spend enough time studying both TV in the showroom, the majority will go for the expensive movie stars with her dazzling look.

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