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 Motorola Milestone [NOW OFFICIAL!], 1st Android 2.1 phone in Malaysia

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post Mar 30 2010, 01:36 AM

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Hey guys, just got the phone from Brightstar dealer today ! Cheers !
Still exploring as i just got it at 5 pm today and am at work at the moment.

Loving it all right !

Will get the DIGI 58 package to fully utilize the machine.
Has anyone tested the MotoNav?

This post has been edited by jeisern: Mar 30 2010, 02:26 AM
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post Mar 30 2010, 02:49 AM

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I've tried ndrive. Got it free trial from d market. It's pretty decent, however prefer more garmin or mapking. Unfortunately not much gps software for android for now other than motonav and papago. But wait a while, i'm sure other big players will release their product for android platform soon. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 30 2010, 08:15 AM

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Physical keyboard and lower price is what did it in for me. Having a physical keyboard is SOOO much better than relying on the touch screen keyboard (which is annoying) only. No matter the phone.. touch screen boards are annoying.

Physical keyboard makes typing at least 4x faster.
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post Mar 30 2010, 08:55 AM

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i agree with the point above. ^^
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post Mar 30 2010, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Mar 29 2010, 05:41 PM)
thanks oneeleven, however, if i get Hong Kong set, how do i access Andriod market and how will the payment be charged?
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You will need to signed up with Google Checkout. Milestone still don't have access to paid Android apps in Market, only free apps. But you can always root the phone and use Market Enabler. It'll mask your network ID to be one of the North American telcos. There's snatch though. No root yet on 2.1 unless you downgrade recovery firmware. Something I am not sure myself.

QUOTE(corez @ Mar 29 2010, 08:09 PM)
Italian set still have no 2.1 update sad.gif
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You can always RSD Lite + SBF a HK/SG/MY firmware and you're back in business. But I am not sure why some people cannot get it to work. The procedures I posted, no good? sad.gif

QUOTE(scpt @ Mar 29 2010, 08:18 PM)
I went into bootloader, I can't seem to select anything other than connect my usb cable.
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Hmm... I think there's another step after getting into the bootloader with the 'Triangle and Exclamation mark' picture. Do a search.

QUOTE(VCBlogger @ Mar 29 2010, 11:39 PM)
I heard the speaker for Milestone is much better than Nexus 1 , is that true?
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Yes, definitely! Its beautiful on Milestone. Sound reproduction is crystal clear and full bodied. As a result, using speakerphone is a breeze. The frequency response of that device (if you use headphone) is pretty good too. The sound on Nexus One is really 'ki ci lai' sound with breaking sound when volume goes a little higher. That is something I concern will happen for HTC Desire since they both share the same platform.

QUOTE(Charcoal @ Mar 30 2010, 01:07 AM)
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If you are comparing against Nex1
We have better effective resolution. N1 AMOLED claims 800x480 but effective resolution is actually 653x392 because of the subpixel arrangement.
Colors - Some people like the Nex1 AMOLED screen because of the more saturated colors, however the Stone actually gives more accurate color representation (for ex. saturation of AMOLED is why some reds look like orange on the Nex1). This is up to your preference of color saturation over color accuracy. Some people just like OLED colors better.
Stone has all the better Pros mentioned above vs Nex1.
Stone has much cheaper price, AP to AP its around RM500-600 difference.
However, Nex1 does have more RAM and processor power.
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I think the N1's effective resolution is a given due to the way how AMOLED screens are fabricated. If you follow OLED history, you will understand what I'm talking. Blue OLED has always been a problem because their lifespan is shorter. As a result, they had to double the size of blue OLED for some reason. No one knows for sure if size will make up for decreased lifespan. So with this pre-requisite, the pixels has to be re-arranged differently than conventional LCD pixels. The green is now twice as narrow but lined up on a straight line.

End of the day, it depends how you count the pixels. If you use LCD pixel counting technique on an AMOLED screen you get lesser effective pixels. As long as the screen looks great, no one complains (though there are shortcomings in terms of text readability). You know chance of finding dead pixels on an AMOLED screen is higher than conventional LCD?

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QUOTE(jeisern @ Mar 30 2010, 01:36 AM)
Hey guys, just got the phone from Brightstar dealer today ! Cheers !
Still exploring as i just got it at 5 pm today and am at work at the moment.

Loving it all right !

Will get the DIGI 58 package to fully utilize the machine.
Has anyone tested the MotoNav?
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I think so. Digi's 3GB quota will be just nice. If you exceed it, you pay nothing. Just slower speed which still works. I'm planning to move over too.

This post has been edited by davidmak: Mar 30 2010, 09:41 AM
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post Mar 30 2010, 10:54 AM

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Hi guys,

i am currently using motorola milestone with Maxis 500MB data package... 500MB seems a bit risky because after 500MB we will be charge 0.005 per KB. Is there any tools inside motorola milestone for us to keep track the total data usage liek iphone. ? Thanks
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post Mar 30 2010, 11:20 AM

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Maybe I have overlooked it skimming through this thread, but what about GPS? I ain't interested in paying for AGPS...

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QUOTE(koaybl @ Mar 30 2010, 10:54 AM)
Hi guys,

  i am currently using motorola milestone with Maxis 500MB data package... 500MB seems a bit risky because after 500MB we will be charge 0.005 per KB. Is there any tools inside motorola milestone for us to keep track the total data usage liek iphone. ? Thanks
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go download netcounter from market
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post Mar 30 2010, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 30 2010, 12:01 PM)
go download netcounter from market
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wow looks nice.. thanks

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QUOTE(koaybl @ Mar 30 2010, 10:54 AM)
Hi guys,

  i am currently using motorola milestone with Maxis 500MB data package... 500MB seems a bit risky because after 500MB we will be charge 0.005 per KB. Is there any tools inside motorola milestone for us to keep track the total data usage liek iphone. ? Thanks
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based on 2 months using that 500mb plan, i never exceed 500mb, even with everyday surfing and fbing.. not to mention download songs from the net using 3G~
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post Mar 30 2010, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Mar 30 2010, 11:20 AM)
Maybe I have overlooked it skimming through this thread, but what about GPS? I ain't interested in paying for AGPS...
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AGPS is just sending a very small packet data(most the time lower then 30 cent) for the satellite to narrow down the signal search area, and after locking to satellite it will disconnect from data connection already...unless u gonna use it everyday, or else i don see any big bill coming from here


Added on March 30, 2010, 1:53 pmnot to mention, i think AGPS should be able to be set to disabled in settings...

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post Mar 30 2010, 02:08 PM

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I mean application-wise. The google one is agps if i'm not mistaken.
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post Mar 30 2010, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Charcoal @ Mar 30 2010, 01:07 AM)
The price not dropping much vs 5 months ago is good thing since it means the Milestone is keeping value tongue.gif. I've been using AP set too. All brand new and runs flawlessly and frankly no different from Ori except AP usually come with 2.01 (which can be easily updated now) and may have different country firmware (no problems here because Malaysian firmware does not offer anything special). The current AP price is delicious and Ori price falling like a rock too. Barely a week and already you can get Ori less than 2.1K (see Terry's post).

Now to the question of whether the Milestone is worth it. I certainly think so, and most of the forumers here would agree. On whether you should wait, frankly new tech is always coming out so you would just end up waiting forever. Only you can decide if the current offering is worth the price you're paying.
Having keyboard actually is a pro for me tongue.gif. I can switch between onscreen and physical keyboard whenever i want.

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XD ... the only thing that is bothering me now is ... its already been 5 month ... is the phone still hot rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

But i check phone forums and there's isnt any new android + Physical keyboard coming out any sooner ... thats the part that temp me to get milestone now..

The New samsung Galaxy realy appeals to me... now im wondering if i want to get that or milestone... the only downfall is that the samsung galaxy has no qwerty keyboard..
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post Mar 30 2010, 03:42 PM

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i rather go for milestone.. or wait for new phone from moto. i guess they are trying real hard to revive themselves by using android.

besides, in gsmarena, there is one sleek qwerty android coming soon...
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backflip will available in malaysia Q2 2010, end of april or middle of may will open for booking ^^

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post Mar 30 2010, 04:19 PM

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u guyz got flat keyboard or kembang keyboard?

i heard got 2 version
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post Mar 30 2010, 05:13 PM

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milestone only got flat keyboard if im not mistaken. the 'kembang' keyboard is available in dext/cliq. i dont really like the back flip mostly because of its keyboard. it is not covered at all and i guess it will be very dust friendly.

i wish milestone has the same camera as zn5...
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Mar 30 2010, 01:51 PM)
AGPS is just sending a very small packet data(most the time lower then 30 cent) for the satellite to narrow down the signal search area, and after locking to satellite it will disconnect from data connection already...unless u gonna use it everyday, or else i don see any big bill coming from here


Added on March 30, 2010, 1:53 pmnot to mention, i think AGPS should be able to be set to disabled in settings...
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Yeah, it uses very little data for getting signal lock quicker. What uses a lot of data is the Google Maps since you have to download the map on the go.

QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Mar 30 2010, 02:08 PM)
I mean application-wise. The google one is agps if i'm not mistaken.
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Google is not AGPS and has nothing to do with it. Technically speaking.
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post Mar 30 2010, 06:43 PM

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reading this thread every day while waiting for my milestone..is torturing me!!

ehehehehehhe
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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Mar 30 2010, 06:43 PM)
reading this thread every day while waiting for my milestone..is torturing me!!

ehehehehehhe
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why do you have to wait if i may ask?

is it having the same dilema as me cause dont know want to buy or not?? lolz

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