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post Oct 13 2009, 01:57 PM, updated 17y ago

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hi... ever since small, I always wonder about this question.. THEORY OF EVERYTHING...

I read quite lots of book on astrophysics, maths and astronomy... albert einstein tried to solve this eqatuon.. but failed trying....

recently, there`s this M-theory emerged... it is said that we are vibrating on 11 dimension membrane at perfect ahrmony...
at central europe, CERN is investing at large hadron collider where they emit electrons at light speed at opposite direction and try to take a glimps of the first few seconds of creation of universe...

now, the discussion...

1) how far are we from completion of this theory??
2) there`s one drawback from what I read recently, there`s little gap to merge einstein`s general relativity and quantum emchanics... two theory of largest and smallest thing in the universe....

p/s please put ur religion hat aside....

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post Oct 13 2009, 02:18 PM

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yes... I have that book.... M theory is the extension of string theory....

michio kaku? he is a THEORETICAL physicist... mean cakap je... doh.gif
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post Oct 13 2009, 04:35 PM

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ok.. sorry.. I take that back


Added on October 13, 2009, 4:44 pm
QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Oct 13 2009, 03:18 PM)
yes... I have that book.... M theory is the extension of string theory....

michio kaku? he is a THEORETICAL physicist...
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post Oct 13 2009, 05:24 PM

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you are a funny mod laa... ahah

ok.. back on track... to the topic... where`s michio now? in his research?
http://mkaku.org/

what about stephen hawking?


Added on October 13, 2009, 6:05 pmfrom mitchio`s work... worth a read... now I really take my word back doh.gif

Hyperspace and a Theory of Everything
What lies beyond our 4 dimensions?
When I was a child, I used to visit the Japanese Tea Garden in San Francisco. I would spend hours fascinated by the carp, who lived in a very shallow pond just inches beneath the lily pads, just beneath my fingers, totally oblivious to the universe above them.

I would ask myself a question only a child could ask: what would it be like to be a carp? What a strange world it would be! I imagined that the pond would be an entire universe, one that is two-dimensional in space. The carp would only be able to swim forwards and backwards, and left and right. But I imagined that the concept of “up”, beyond the lily pads, would be totally alien to them. Any carp scientist daring to talk about “hyperspace”, i.e. the third dimension “above” the pond, would immediately be labelled a crank. I wondered what would happen if I could reach down and grab a carp scientist and lift it up into hyperspace. I thought what a wondrous story the scientist would tell the others! The carp would babble on about unbelievable new laws of physics: beings who could move without fins. Beings who could breathe without gills. Beings who could emit sounds without bubbles. I then wondered: how would a carp scientist know about our existence? One day it rained, and I saw the rain drops forming gentle ripples on the surface of the pond.

Then I understood.
The carp could see rippling shadows on the surface of the pond. The third dimension would be invisible to them, but vibrations in the third dimensions would be clearly visible. These ripples might even be felt by the carp, who would invent a silly concept to describe this, called “force.” They might even give these “forces” cute names, such as light and gravity. We would laugh at them, because, of course, we know there is no “force” at all, just the rippling of the water.

Today, many physicists believe that we are the carp swimming in our tiny pond, blissfully unaware of invisible, unseen uni- verses hovering just above us in hyperspace. We spend our life in three spatial dimensions, confident that what we can see with our telescopes is all there is, ignorant of the possibility of 10 dimensional hyperspace. Although these higher dimensions are invisible, their “ripples” can clearly be seen and felt. We call these ripples gravity and light. The theory of hyperspace, however, languished for many decades for lack of any physical proof or application. But the thoery, once considered the province of eccentrics and mystics, is being revived for a simple reason: it may hold the key to the greatest theory of all time, the “theory of everything.”

Einstein spent the last 30 years of his life futilely chasing after this theory, the Holy Grail of physics. He wanted a theory that could explain the four fundamental forces that govern the universe: gravity, electromagnetism, and the two nuclear forces (weak and strong). It was supposed to be the crowning achievement of the last 2,000 years of science, ever since the Greeks asked what the world was made of. He was searching for an equation, perhaps no more than one-inch long, that could be placed on a T-shirt, but was so powerful it could explain every- thing from the Big Bang, exploding stars, to atoms and molecules, to the lilies of the field.

He wanted to read the mind of God. Ultimately, Einstein failed in his mission. In fact, he was shunned by many of his younger compatriots, who would taunt him with the ditty, “What God has torn asunder, no man can put together.” But perhaps Einstein is now having his revenge. For the past decade, there has been furious research on merging the four fundamental forces into a single theory, especially one that can meld general relativity (which explains gravity) with the quantum theory (which can explain the two nuclear forces and electro- magnetism).

The problem is that relativity and the quantum theory are precise opposites. General relativity is a theory of the very large: galaxies, quasars, black holes, and even the Big Bang. It is based on bending the beautiful four dimensional fabric of space and time. The quantum theory, by contrast, is a theory of the very small, i.e. the world of sub-atomic particles. It is based on discrete, tiny packets of energy called quanta. Over the past 50 years, many attempts have been tried to unite these polar opposites, and have failed. The road to the Unified Field Theory, the Theory of Everything, is littered with the corpses of failed attempts. The key to the puzzle may be hyperspace. In 1915, when Einstein said space-time was four dimensional and was warped and rippled, he showed that this bending produced a “force” called gravity. In 1921, Theodr Kaluza wrote that ripples of the fifth dimension could be viewed as light. Like the fish seeing the ripples in hyperspace moving in their world, many physicists believe that light is created by ripples in five-dimensional space-time.

But what about dimensions higher than 5?
In principle, if we add more and more dimensions, we can ripple and bend them in different ways, thereby creating more forces. In 10 dimensions, in fact, we can accomodate all four fundamental forces! Actually, it’s not that simple. By naively going to 10 dimensions, we also introduce a host of esoteric mathematical inconsistencies (e.g. infinities and anomalies) that have killed all previous theories. The only theory which has survived every challenge posed to it is called superstring theory, in which this 10 dimensional universe is inhabited by tiny strings.

In fact, in one swoop, this 10 dimensional string theory gives us a simple, compelling unification of all forces. Like a violin string, these tiny strings can vibrate and create resonances or “notes”. That explains why there are so many sub- atomic particles: they are just notes on a superstring. (This seems so simple, but in the 1950s, physicists were drowning in an avalanche of sub-atomic particles. J.R. Oppenheim- er, who helped build the atomic bomb, even said, out of sheer frustration, that the Nobel Prize should go to the physicist who does NOT discover a new particle that year!) Similarly, when the string moves in space and time, it warps the space around it just as Einstein predicted. Thus, in a remarkably simple picture, we can unify gravity (as the bending of space caused by moving strings) with the other quantum forces (now viewed as vibrations of the string).

Of course, any theory with this power and majesty has a problem. This theory, because it is a theory of everything, is really a theory of Creation. Thus, to fully test the theory requires re-creating Creation! At first, this might seem hopelessly impossible. We can barely leave the earth’s puny gravity, let alone create universes in the laboratory. But there is a way out to this seemingly intractable problem. A theory of everything is also a theory of the everyday. Thus, this theory, when fully completed, will be able to explain the existence of protons, atoms, molecules, even DNA. Thus, the key is to fully solve the theory and test the theory against the known properties of the universe. At present, no one on earth is smart enough to complete the theory. The theory is perfectly well-defined, but you see, superstring theory is 21st Century physics that fell accidentally into the 20th century. It was discovered purely by accident, when two young physicists were thumbing through a mathematics book. The theory is so elegant and powerful, we were never “destined” to see it in the 20th century. The problem is that 21st century mathematics has not yet been invented yet. But since physicists are genetically predisposed to be opti- mists, I am confident that we will solve the theory someday soon. Perhaps a young person reading this article will be so inspired by this story that he or she will finish the theory. I can’t wait!

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post Oct 14 2009, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 14 2009, 04:12 AM)
Hmm just a thought, but doesnt Heisenbergs principle of Uncertainty negate the existence of any single theory or equation that can explain everything in a deterministic way? I'm just getting this off the top of the head, and would welcome any refuting smile.gif
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are you reffering to quantum mechanics?? where anything is possible...??? rclxub.gif

stephen hawking once say this.... for the universe to exist to this day, consider this possibility.. group of monkeys rush to typewritter and start to hitting the trywritter... the probability of them hitting out shakespeare`s poem... shocking.gif
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post Oct 15 2009, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(nice.rider @ Oct 14 2009, 07:01 PM)
Yup, Einstein didn't like the idea of randomness. I believe almost everyone would prefer order rather then chaos  smile.gif

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I do believe that the only constant that is always constant in this universe is CHANGE..... wink.gif

there are no absolute point in this universe... we are center of each other.. when you throw a ball, you see it in straight line... issit?? zoom the pic out... to earth magnitude.. then plus the vector of earth rotating and orbiting... the straight ball is not so straight anymore.. then zoom out the magnitude again to solar system magnitude... what you`ll get? and finally to ever expanding universe.. what you get? blink.gif is the ball that you threw in straight line??
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post Oct 30 2009, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(corad @ Oct 19 2009, 05:22 AM)
this theory could be completely wrong. nobody can say how long it will take to complete.

"little gap" is quite an understatement. einstein's equations do not hold up with Newtonian mechanics either when approaching light speed.

when scientists find out what exactly is mass (the main thing the LHC was built to find out) , then we'll probably get a completely new set of theories 
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any news from large hardon collider?? heard they switch it on...

latest news is from angel and demons movie doh.gif
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post Oct 30 2009, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(joyyy @ Oct 30 2009, 07:38 PM)
In the real Angels and Demons book, it wasn't the LHC, the writers changed it to the LHC to make it grander.  biggrin.gif
Anyways, the number one purpose of the LHC is to detect the Higg's boson, which would explain how mass came to be.
It was turned on for a brief period last year and almost immediately ran into some problems. Since then the LHC has been lying there doing nothing  sweat.gif
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i see.... doing nothing or wont let us know something?? hmm.gif
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post Oct 30 2009, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(joyyy @ Oct 30 2009, 11:33 PM)
Nah, I won't be the conspiracy theorist here. I feel that the discovery of the Higgs boson would be too big a discovery to cover up, even when there's no reason for them to cover it up.  biggrin.gif
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you know the biggest enemy of this research??? religion ; god

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post Oct 31 2009, 09:01 AM

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origin of mass???

which leads to??

origin of universe la my friend... it is all interrelated.....
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post Nov 6 2009, 09:04 AM

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I just watch this documentary..... you guys might consider watching it.... thumbup.gif

http://www.tom365.com/movie_2004/html/6803...9823132429.html


p/s you need to DL the Ovod player in order to watch it


"scientist use the word "singularity" to hide our ignorance on creation of universe" Dr mitchio kaku

which mean, we always talk about singularity and this and that but know nothing of it... which is true....

we talk about god this and god that but know nothing about god... hmm.gif


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QUOTE(joyyy @ Oct 30 2009, 11:45 PM)
The discovery of the Higgs boson would only explain the origin of mass. It wouldn't explain the origin of the Big Bang and that's all the Church cares about. As long as physicists are nowhere near solving the mystery of the Big Bang, the Church would point to the divine.  tongue.gif
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in the doc, the pope ask stephen to leave some secret of god to be kept....

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QUOTE(joyyy @ Nov 6 2009, 03:08 PM)

And this has nothing to do with religion.  shakehead.gif
We physicists are agnostic basterds =)
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it is an analogous concept that i use.... sweat.gif

 

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