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post Oct 12 2009, 09:13 PM, updated 17y ago

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hi guys,
my poton gen2 have this problem.
1) yesterday : cruise control not working.
2) today : after i reverse my car, it honked itself. then after that i drive for 5 meters. the car just stalled itself and the engine no longer able to start. everytime when i tried to crank start my car, it just stalled off or couldn't be started. after few attempt the check engine panel no longer working anymore, the CEL just doesn't turn and all those indicators just gone off and i couldn't start my car. i have to take off the fuse of honk becasue it will autohonk . btw , the PRND2L panel gear mode is only blinking.


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post Oct 12 2009, 09:16 PM

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alternator rosak?

the chance of alternator rosak is high liao

This post has been edited by victor87: Oct 12 2009, 09:21 PM
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:19 PM

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Throw it away!
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:22 PM

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Battery died..perhaps
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Dgigabytez @ Oct 12 2009, 10:19 PM)
Throw it away!
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:24 PM

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alarm spoilt
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Dgigabytez @ Oct 12 2009, 09:19 PM)
Throw it away!
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Oct 12 2009, 09:22 PM)
Battery died..perhaps
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If battery dies, it would have shown the Battery warning light, no??

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post Oct 12 2009, 09:25 PM

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if the battery dies, why does the honk auto honk ? the battery is still new, it is about 9 month old only .
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:25 PM)
if the battery dies, why does the honk auto honk ? the battery is still new, it is about 9 month old only .
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Hmmm...true also. Maybe short circuit? Did you do engine wash? hmm.gif
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:25 PM)
if the battery dies, why does the honk auto honk ? the battery is still new, it is about 9 month old only .
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Try to check and see either is it Alternator rosak or not... Mine SUV alternator rosak last week, can't start , aircond wont works, panel semua not functioning..

not to forget to check either ur battery water still ada or not... sometimes it dries
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:29 PM

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Sounds like ur ECU is acting up...
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:30 PM

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i got check, it is full . i think the possibility of the alternator to be spoilt is there, as probably it drains the power. i tried start my car by connecting cable to another car, the jump start cable just burnt off. but why does it honk ?
it is not only cannot crank, sometimes start 3 seconds and off. .


Added on October 12, 2009, 9:33 pmi am guessing it is the ECU acting up. but the worst problem is why does it crank up so much current until the jump start cable melted n overheated. i tried to jump start another car it works last few days, today it isn't working and summore it burnt .
sigh .

- ECU : yes
- alternator : yes .

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post Oct 12 2009, 09:33 PM

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Just wondering wheter the honk is actually the alarm, since my LMST alarm also triggered shortly before the battery fails.
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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:30 PM)
i got check, it is full . i think the possibility of the alternator to be spoilt is there, as probably it drains the power. i tried start my car by connecting cable to another car, the jump start cable just burnt off. but why does it honk ? 
it is not only cannot crank, sometimes start 3 seconds and off. .
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means ur battery is still working since u can start your car.

ECU problem? I don't think so... or not TS try disconnect your battery wires for 15minutes+ then reconnect back. (to reset ECU)

at first i thought mine SUV is battery problem also, because when i stop in traffic light it will suddenly jerks and the RPM meter drops to 0, but the car didn't stalls... then until last week, found out it's alternator rosak already... coz me RM750 for a new one ;(
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:47 PM

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yes, if you disconnect battery, sure alarm will be trigger.
alternator,maybe. try connect another battery from a car,
to recharge the battery, at least for 30minutes before u restart your engine.


Added on October 12, 2009, 9:48 pm
QUOTE(victor87 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:33 PM)
means ur battery is still working since u can start your car.

ECU problem? I don't think so... or not TS try disconnect your battery wires for 15minutes+ then reconnect back. (to reset ECU)

at first i thought mine SUV is battery problem also, because when i stop in traffic light it will suddenly jerks and the RPM meter drops to 0, but the car didn't stalls... then until last week, found out it's alternator rosak already... coz me RM750 for a new one ;(
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mercedes c200 year 1996 alternator cost rm640 laugh.gif
original bosch (NEW)

if recond, around rm300++ but it is not advisable

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post Oct 12 2009, 10:03 PM

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I think better send to Proton workshop to see. Sounds pretty bad.
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post Oct 12 2009, 10:09 PM

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Send back to service centre la.
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post Oct 12 2009, 11:19 PM

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i've contacted shazmn , he told me his pomen commented on either battery or alternator.

i think the chances of alternator is very high. battery wise , sometimes i still can start and after 1 second, it terus goes off . just like that.

now the odometer etc everthing LED doesn't lite up.i dnt know why, no battery or altenator.


tomorrow i am going to call my friend's pomen to bring a battery here to try to start it. if not then tow truck to the shop .
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try rev ur car a lil... see still stall or not after starting the car
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post Oct 13 2009, 12:49 AM

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still stall . it just wont work.
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post Oct 13 2009, 12:57 AM

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hi it sounds like some short circuit. its unlikely the battery jump start cable burnt off. unless its of a bad quality one. just tow it back to proton. unless yours is out of warranty. did u add anything new to your car recently? electrical items?
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post Oct 13 2009, 09:35 AM

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nope .
but the symptom is very like alternator dies off. where the warning icons comes out and then it doesn't lite up.
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post Oct 13 2009, 09:56 AM

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I'm banking on the alternator too. It can make or break a car sometimes.
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post Oct 13 2009, 10:25 AM

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have u got the service centre to do a pdt check?
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post Oct 13 2009, 11:52 AM

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haven't yet. it is at Jusco now , i'm in the meeting now actually. later will call up the insurance for the tow truck.


Added on October 13, 2009, 11:59 ambtw, when my friend tried to push my car back to the parking lot. the electrical icon seems to come back when it is being pushed.

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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:13 PM)
hi guys,
my poton gen2 have this problem.
1) yesterday : cruise control not working.
2) today : after i reverse my car, it honked itself.  then after that i drive for 5 meters. the car just stalled itself and the engine no longer able to start. everytime when i tried to crank start my car, it just stalled off or couldn't be started. after few attempt the check engine panel no longer working anymore, the CEL just doesn't turn and all those indicators just gone off and i couldn't start my car. i have to take off the fuse of honk becasue it will autohonk . btw , the PRND2L panel gear mode is only blinking.
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Im a proton gen2 owner too.
I did face the problem u mention--

--- the PRND2L panel gear mode is only blinking.

Last time this problem occured is due to the Relay of the Gearbox where placed in the fuse box beside the battery.
when there is blinking, the engine stil idling, but the car cant moving, like in the 'N' mode...
I think may b big possibility there is some relay or that could causing short circuit, may b u could try it out.
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post Oct 15 2009, 06:26 PM

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sorry for late reply.
the problem is fixed . it is due to the faulty clockspring.

the symptoms are steering wheel button malfunction, then cruise control rosak then auto honk . because all those wires are connected to the same place.
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post Oct 15 2009, 06:35 PM

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The jumpstart cable melted???
Out of curiousity, how did you connect the jump start cable?
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post Oct 15 2009, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Oct 15 2009, 06:26 PM)
sorry for late reply.
the problem is fixed . it is due to the faulty clockspring.

the symptoms are steering wheel button malfunction, then cruise control rosak then auto honk . because all those wires are connected to the same place.
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faulty what? clockspring? ic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clockspring
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post Oct 15 2009, 09:02 PM

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yeap. i should be thankful that the airbag didnt deploy due to the faulty signal.
gen2 members should be careful on this, this isnt the first clockspring case, the other member here got the same problem and the airbag deployed.


Added on October 15, 2009, 9:03 pm
QUOTE(yennshin @ Oct 15 2009, 06:35 PM)
The jumpstart cable melted???
Out of curiousity, how did you connect the jump start cable?
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negative to negative, positive to positive.

as usual, but i was using the cheapo one .

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Hmmm........
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Hmmm i better keep an eye on my blm air bag. Another design flaw from proton. A safety device becomes a liability instead.
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i will post more photos on it soon .


 

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