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TSastria
post Oct 12 2009, 01:18 PM, updated 15y ago

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Hardcore:
Core i7 Extreme-900XM – 45nm Clarksfield, quad core with HTT, 2.00-2.13GHz, 8MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 2/2/8/9, DDR3 1333MHz, 55W TDP

Performance:
Core i7-800QM – 45nm Clarksfield, quad core with HTT, 1.73 - 1.86GHz, 8MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 2/2/8/10, DDR3 1333MHz, 45W TDP
Core i7-700QM – 45nm Clarksfield, quad core with HTT, 1.60 - 1.73GHz, 6MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 1/1/6/9, DDR3 1333MHz, 45W TDP
Core i7-600M – 32nm Arrandale, dual core wit HTT, 2.66GHz, 4MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 3.30GHz, GPU @ 766MHz, DDR3 1066MHz, 35W TDP

Mainstream:
Core i5-500M – 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 2.40-2.53GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 2.93-3.06GHz, GPU @ 766MHz, DDR3 1066MHz, 35W TDP
Core i5-400M – 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 2.26GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 2.53GHz, GPU @ 766MHz, DDR3 1066MHz, 35W TDP

Value:
Core i3-300M – 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 2.13-2.26GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 667MHz, DDR3 1066MHz, 35W TDP
Pentium P6000 - 32nm Arrandale, dual core, 1.86 GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 4.8GT/s DMI, GPU @ 667MHz, DDR3 1066MHz, 35W TDP
Celeron P4000 – 32nm Arrandale, dual core, 1.86GHz, 2MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 667MHz, DDR3 1066MHz, 35W TDP


Low Voltage:
Core i7-600LM – 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 2.00-2.13GHz, 4MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 2.80-2.93GHz, GPU @ 566MHz, 25W TDP

Ultra-low Vlotage:
Core i7-600UM – 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 1.06 - 1.33GHz, 4MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 2.40GHz, GPU @ 500MHz, DDR3 800MHz, 18W TDP
Core i5-500UM - 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 1.20GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 2.20GHz, GPU @ 500MHz, DDR3 800MHz, 18W TDP
Core i5-400UM - 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 1.20GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 1.73GHz, GPU @ 500MHz, DDR3 800MHz, 18W TDP
Core i3-300UM - 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 1.20GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 500MHz, DDR3 800MHz, 18W TDP
Pentium U5000 - 32nm Arrandale, dual core, 1.20GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 500MHz, DDR3 800MHz, 18W TDP
Celeron U3000 - 32nm Arrandale, dual core, 1.06GHz, 2MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 500MHz, DDR3 800MHz, 18W TDP

Netbook:
Atom N405 – 45nm Pineview, single core with HTT, 1.66-1.83GHz, 512KB L2 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 200MHz, DDR3 800MHz, 5.5-6.5WW TDP
Atom N400 – 45nm Pineview, single core with HTT, 1.66-1.83GHz, 512KB L2 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 200MHz, DDR2 800MHz, 5.5-6.5WW TDP

Note:
1. GREY indicates upcoming product/s
2. STRIKEOFF = EOL-ed product (means no longer in production, but u will probably still find them in the market)

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Hardcore:
Phenom II Quad Core Black Edition X900 – 45nm Champlain, quad core, 2.30GHz, 4x 512KB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 45W TDP
Phenom II Dual Core Black Edition X600 – 45nm Champlain, dual core, 3.10GHz, 2x 512KB L2 cache, 36000MHz HT, 45W TDP

Performance:
Phenom II Quad Core N900 – 45nm Champlain, quad core, 2.00GHz, 4x 512KB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 35W TDP
Phenom II Quad Core P900 – 45nm Champlain, quad core, 1.60GHz, 4x 512KB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 25W TDP
Phenom II Triple Core N800 – 45nm Champlain, tri core, 2.10GHz, 3x 512KB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 35W TDP
Phenom II Triple Core P800 – 45nm Champlain, tri core, 1.80GHz, 3x 512KB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 25W TDP
Phenom II Dual Core P600 – 45nm Champlain, dual core, 2.80GHz, 2x 512KB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 35W TDP

Mainstream:
Turion II Dual Core N500 – 45nm Champlain, dual core, 2.50GHz, 2x 1MB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 35W TDP
Turion II Dual Core P500 – 45nm Champlain, dual core, 2.30GHz, 2x 1MB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 25W TDP

Value:
Athlon II Dual Core N300 – 45nm Champlain, dual core, 2.30GHz, 2x 512KB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 35W TDP
Athlon II Dual Core P300 – 45nm Champlain, dual core, 2.10GHz, 2x 512KB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 25W TDP
V-series V100 – 45nm Champlain, single core, 1.20-2.20GHz, 512KB L2 cache, 3600MHz HT, 25W TDP

Ultra-thin:
Zacate dual core - 40nm Ontario, dual core, DX11, 24W TDP
Zacate single core - 40nm Ontario, single core, DX11, 18W TDP
Turion II Neo Dual Core K600 - 45nm Geneva, dual core, 1.50-1.70GHz, 2x 1MB L2 cache, 3200MHz HT, 15W TDP
Athlon II Neo Dual Core K300 - 45nm Geneva, dual core, 1.30GHz, 2x 1MB L2 cache, 2000MHz HT, 15W TDP
Athlon II Neo K100 - 45nm Geneva, single core, 1.70GHz, 1MB L2 cache, 2000MHz HT, 12W TDP
V-series V100 - 45nm Geneva, single core, 1.20GHz, 512KB L2 cache, 2000MHz HT, 9W TDP

Note:
1. GREY indicates upcoming product/s
2. STRIKEOFF = EOL-ed product (means no longer in production, but u will probably still find them in the market)
3. Italic = announced future product


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TSastria
post Oct 12 2009, 01:30 PM

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yup, that would be the case...

let me quote Intel (for the third time, or maybe fourth) again: Core i7 is not designed for gamers...

gamers go Core i5... hardcore gamers fo Phenom II... laugh.gif
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post Oct 12 2009, 02:23 PM

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nah... they are different...

previously it was called SMP (Simultaneous Multi-thread sth??? can't really remember...), it only shortly before Core i7 launch last year that Intel decided to call it Hyper Threading as well for simplicity sake...
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post Oct 13 2009, 10:35 AM

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this i beg to differ...

Core i7 is juz totally overkill for many people...

rather, i would suggest wait for Core i5, which is better suited for gamers (at least), and cheaper as well...
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post Oct 13 2009, 01:55 PM

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the keyword again is optimization...

check and see if the software that u re going to use and see if they are optimized for HT...
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post Oct 13 2009, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 13 2009, 05:14 PM)
Core i7 itself is a quad core proc with HT, so it doesnt make that much of a differences if any software or games are not optimized for it. smile.gif
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performance will drop if the software is not optimized... iirc, game performance dropped by as much as 20% when HT is enabled... u re better off without HT in cases like this...

it's different from the case where u run a dual core optimized software on a quad core...
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post Oct 13 2009, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 13 2009, 05:32 PM)
Doesnt make much of a difference i7 HT enabled and i5 non HT. The higher end model would compensate the HT performance drop with its higher speed/cache/qpi architecture.
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i7 and i5 are basically the same stuff, so cache and QPI are basically the same...

as for speed, imho i5 will probably be able to match wat i7 can run at... since disabling HT will result in lower power consumption, and thus the speed can be pushed further...

a very rough assumption...

i7 at 2GHz running a non-HT optimized software, is as good as i5 running at 1.6-1.8GHz...

so basically u re paying more money for the same performance, and a feature that u re not going to use...
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post Oct 13 2009, 05:33 PM

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yup, Clarksfield uses DMI juz like Lynnfield...
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post Nov 2 2009, 02:24 PM

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i doubt HT will really be popular among games...

dun forget, at least for desktop market, only Core i7 and low end Core i5 has it...

for the rest (high end Core i5, Core i3, Pentium G) dun ve such thing...

AMD dun even bother with it..

so if u re the game developer, u will be spending extra resources juz to cater for, say 10% of the computer users, and out of that, probably less than 50% will buy ur games...
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post Nov 2 2009, 02:36 PM

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i would say tri-core is at the sweet spot now...

it's cheaper than quads, but still offer decent multi-core performance...

juz look at Phenom II x3... it's super cheap, and yet can hold against C2Q Q9000 and Q8000...
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post Nov 2 2009, 02:53 PM

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well, for laptops, no... laugh.gif

but for laptops, i would say dual core is good enuf even for now, since they seldom need to process heavy applications...
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post Nov 2 2009, 04:43 PM

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problem with mobile quad is that they consume another 10W more than the dual cores...

considering the amount of heatsink needed for cooling and battery life, it's not really mobile friendly...

imho, dual core will still make up the majority for at least 1 more yr when comes to laptops...
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post Nov 2 2009, 05:04 PM

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well, that y majority would still be dual... Turion II, Arrandale are the so called next-gen mainstream CPU...

unless quads can go below 40W TDP, i dun see them making up most of the market... probably next yr with 32nm Sandy Bridge would be the day... but by then, AMD would be going for Fusion instead...
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yes, that would be beneficial for ur work...

but it depends on how heavy ur work is... for normal ones, C2D is good enuf...
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post Nov 26 2009, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(putochip123 @ Nov 26 2009, 05:43 AM)
everytime i use my M15x, there is few thread is remain idle.... even though i run Autocad, photo shop, convert movie or other thing, not all core utilize, Core i7 sucks....
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that probably means 8 threads is overkill.. .laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2009, 11:24 AM

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Intel is selling US$1054 for every 1k unit ordered...
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post Nov 27 2009, 06:54 PM

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i5 also 45nm...

i3 and new Pentium are 32nm...
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post Nov 30 2009, 10:10 PM

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from the info i have gathered around the Internet lately, the highly anticipated mainstream mobile Core i5 is NOT a quad core... rather, it will be based on Arrandale instead of Clarksfield...

from Wikipedia, the Core i5 is a dual core with integrated GMA HD graphic... there will be 2 lines, the 500M series and 400M series... both lines will have the graphic controller clocked at 733MHz, but the 400M series will not have HTT...

there's also the Core i3 300M series, which has both HTT and Turbo Boost disabled, and graphic is clocked at 667MHz only as well...

and to make it even more complicated, there's also the Core i7 600M series, which looks no different from a Core i5 500M on paper, besides having the highest clock in the Arrandale family...

the rated TDP of all the above CPU are 35W... a pretty big improvement over Core 2 Duo (35W TDP for T series), considering it has 2 cores, a graphic controller and memory controller built into a chip...

compared to the desktop version, here's a table for ur convenience (comparison in terms of spec)

Desktop vs Mobile
Core i5 600 - Core i5 500M, Core i7 600M
Core i3 500 - Core i5 400M
Pentium G6000 - Core i3 300M

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post Dec 1 2009, 01:51 AM

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simply say...

Core i7-900XM (quad Extreme Edition, 8MB L3 cache, HTT and Turbo Boost, >45W)
Core i7-800QM (quad, 8MB L3 cache, HTT and Turbo Boost, 45W)
Core i7-700QM (quad, 6MB L3 cache, HTT and Turbo Boost, 45W)
Core i7-600M (dual with 766MHz graphic, 4MB L3 cache, HTT and Turbo Boost, 35W)
Core i7-600LM (dual with 533MHz graphic, 4MB L3 cache, HTT and Turbo Boost, 25W) - aka Low Voltage
Core i7-600UM (dual with 500MHz graphic, 4MB L3 cache, HTT and Turbo Boost, 18W) - aka Ultra Low Voltage
Core i5-500M (dual with 766MHz graphic, 3MB L3 cache, HTT and Turbo Boost, 35W)
Core i5-400M (dual with 766MHz graphic, 3MB L3 cache, , no HTT, Turbo Boost only, 35W)
Core i3-300M (dual with 667MHz graphic, 3MB L3 cache, no HTT, no Turbo Boost. 35W)

these are wat will be available for the new Core family...

as for mobo, the quads are using PM55 now, while the duals should be HM55...


Added on December 1, 2009, 1:58 ami am sort of surprised by the lack of Pentium in the whole product line...

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post Dec 2 2009, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(outlife11 @ Dec 2 2009, 11:57 AM)
only 1.7Ghz ? when 4 core running ? i still don understand how it boost till 2.8Ghz ?
any 1 reach 2.8Ghz b4 ? with wat program ?

that HT in i7 can turn off ?
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2.8GHz only when all the other 3 cores are closed and only 1 core is running...

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