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TSastria
post May 19 2010, 10:56 AM

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depends on which camp u re looking at...

Intel, Core i7 600M or Core i5 500M are much better than the quad due to the clock...

AMD - Phenom II x4 or Phenom II x3... highly clocked quad/tri core compared to Intel...
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post May 20 2010, 01:35 PM

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yeah, i3 will pwn them in terms of performance...
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post May 26 2010, 08:13 AM

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Intel officially launched the new ULV CPU...

Core i7-600UM – 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 1.33GHz, 4MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 2.40GHz, GPU @ 500MHz, 18W TDP
Core i5-500UM - 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 1.20GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 2.20GHz, GPU @ 500MHz, 18W TDP
Core i5-400UM - 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 1.20GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, Turbo @ 1.73GHz, GPU @ 500MHz, 18W TDP
Core i3-300UM - 32nm Arrandale, dual core with HTT, 1.20GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 500MHz, 18W TDP
Pentium U5000 - 32nm Arrandale, dual core, 1.20GHz, 3MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 500MHz, 18W TDP
Celeron U3000 - 32nm Arrandale, dual core, 1.06GHz, 2MB L3 cache, 2500MHz DMI, GPU @ 500MHz, 18W TDP

replacing:

Core 2 Duo SU9000 – 45nm Penryn DC, dual core, 1.20-1.60GHz, 3MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB, 10W TDP
Core 2 Duo SU7000 – 45nm Penryn DC, dual core, 1.30GHz, 3MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB, 10W TDP
Pentium SU4000 – 45nm Penryn DC, dual core, 1.30GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB, 10W TDP
Celeron SU2000 – 45nm Penryn DC, dual core, 1.20GHz, 1MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB, 10W TDP
TSastria
post Jul 7 2010, 08:52 PM

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not much actually... though Pentium P6000 may give u a wee bit more performance... but i doubt u'll notice it anyway...

however wat AMD excels in is integrated graphic... Radeon HD4250 is miles better than GMA HD...
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post Jul 9 2010, 02:00 PM

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clock for clock Core i3 is better... but AMD platform is better when comes to integrated graphic...
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post Jul 9 2010, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(JJKTP @ Jul 9 2010, 11:07 PM)
Naturally.
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actually, not necessarily...

ATi has sth called SidePort memory, allowing the integrated graphic to have it's own VRAM to use without borrowing...

it's present in Acer Aspire One 521, 384MB to be exact...

so it's better to check thoroughly when comes to AMD laptops... for all that u know, it may ve SidePort...

This post has been edited by astria: Jul 9 2010, 11:26 PM
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post Jul 11 2010, 03:21 PM

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i3 is better...

HTT is gonna help a lot when comes to Photoshop...
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post Jul 21 2010, 11:50 PM

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P320 cooler, but T4500 better performance...
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post Aug 16 2010, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(shadyfkm1987 @ Aug 16 2010, 11:17 AM)
may i ask why dual core processors are better than quad core processors when it comes to games?
something about the clock speed right? what's that?
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games nowadays are either dual core optimized (pure PC titles, think RTS games like Starcraft 2) or tri core optimized (console ported titles)... so quad core is basically a waste since u only use 2 or 3 of the cores when playing games... and since dual core CPU runs at a higher clock speed compared to quad core CPU for the same power consumption, generally dual core gives better performance over quad core CPU...

only in rare cases where a quad core performs better than dual core in games, eg GTA4, as the game was poorly ported for PC and thus quad core is preferred...

so for gaming, the sweet spot is actually tri core (Phenom II x3), followed by high clocked dual cores (Core i7-600M, Core i5-500M, Phenom II x2), followed by quad core (Core 2 Quad, Phenom II x4)...

Core i7 quad core is not a really good CPU for gaming, biggest reason is the low clock speed... at only 1.6GHz, it's not really that good for gaming needs... the CPU is designed more for tasks like Photoshop, video rendering, etc...
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post Aug 16 2010, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(shadyfkm1987 @ Aug 16 2010, 12:25 PM)
detailed analysis, thanks.
but why lower clock speed on quad core compared to dual core?
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more core = more heat = more power consumed

higher clock = more heat = more power consumed

QUOTE(MIVECburuk @ Aug 16 2010, 03:57 PM)
what about i3-330UM,1.2GHz vs i5-520UM,1.06GHz? Turbo Boost is really useless while gaming?
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i believe u re referring to AW m11x...

personally i would pick 330UM...640UM is bloody expensive, but is still at the same clock speed as 330UM, while 520UM has lower clock speed than 330UM...

Turbo Boost is pretty pointless nowadays since most programs are multi-core optimized...
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post Aug 16 2010, 06:09 PM

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refer back to my posts, games nowadays are dual/tri core optimized...

Turbo Boost works by shutting down 1 of the 2 cores in the CPU and overclock the other one so that single threaded programs can be processed faster...

so essentially, Turbo Boost is useless in games... might as well save the money for some other stuff (a Razer Orochi how abt that??? brows.gif)
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post Aug 17 2010, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(MIVECburuk @ Aug 16 2010, 07:35 PM)
Hmmmm,...razer orochi, that's not a bad idea rclxms.gif


Added on August 17, 2010, 8:23 amAnother question here, what application can benefit from turbo boost?
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hmm, driver installation perhaps??? tongue.gif

honestly, i ve never seen IDA (Intel Dynamic Acceleration, the predecessor of Turbo Boost, found in Core 2) kick in for other stuff besides drivers... laugh.gif


QUOTE(shadyfkm1987 @ Aug 17 2010, 09:38 AM)
anyone can give me a detailed analysis of why i5 is better in performance compared to i7 when it comes to games? lets just say we have enough budget for i7, leave out the financial bit of the argument.
my friend and i were in a discussion on this, he seems to be of the impression that since i7 is better in terms of performance, it should be no problem when it comes to handling games, although the games are not suitable for quad core procs, we can compensate by better performance of the procs. he seem to think that it is just that games do not occupy all 4 cores and hence no need to get i7 (economic argument).
can anyone be kind enough to explain to us? thx.
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refer back to my posts...

games now are dual or tri core optimized, so when u re using a quad core, u re only using 2 or 3 cores out of the CPU...

further more, a i7 quad has very low clock speed (1.6GHz/1.8GHz compared to 2.4GHz-2.66GHz on the dual cores), so imagine when u re running a game, say dual core optimized, on a i7 quad, u re running only 2 cores on 1.6GHz (factor in Turbo Boost, u ve 2GHz maybe?), but on a dual core, u re getting no less than 2GHz depending on the model... so which one is better?

yes, i7 quad does have a lot of raw power, but whether u can utilize all the power depends on the programs that u sue...

as a matter of fact, i7-620M (2.66GHz) pwns the ass of i7-720QM (1.6GHz) hard in games benchmarks...
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post Aug 17 2010, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(MIVECburuk @ Aug 17 2010, 10:12 AM)
i7-620M is a dual core rite? what's the difference between it and other quad i7 CPU?
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yup, 620M is a dual core...

actually, words like "i7", "i5" are purely branding... basically, i7 = hardcore, i5 = performance, i3 = mainstream, Pentium/Celeron = enrty...

the difference lies in the numbers and the suffix... u can see the difference in the list of CPU on the very first post of this thread...
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post Aug 17 2010, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(hidz7 @ Aug 17 2010, 10:54 AM)
hi guys..i want to ask something...

when we are playing dual core optimize games using core i7 quad cores, only 2 cores will be used and the other 2 will just be in idle state rite?

at this moment, do turbo boost will overclock those 2 working cores, making its clock speed higher?

i dont have the core i7, but it is nice to know about this. thank you smile.gif
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assuming that no other programs will take up too much of the other CPU resources, yes, Turbo Boost will kick in and shut down 2 of the cores and overclock the other 2... however, the clock speed probably match that of a 400M or 300M CPU only...
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post Aug 17 2010, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(hidz7 @ Aug 17 2010, 12:30 PM)
so it means my p8700 still relevant for today's standard rite?or no?lol tongue.gif
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of course it is... nod.gif

besides, the architecture of Nehalem is basically the same as Core, main this is ditching FSB and moving the memory controller closer to the CPU, thus increasing memory performance... raw processing performance wise, there's not much difference between the 2...
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post Aug 24 2010, 01:08 AM

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even i3 or Pentium is enuf...
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post Sep 13 2010, 10:34 AM

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well, depending on the lvl of HTT optimization of the programs, u'll get up to 30% performance improvement with 540M...

so the qn here now is, is the 30% performance increase worth the extra investment? smile.gif
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post Sep 13 2010, 10:46 AM

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yup, but key word here is "up to"

it may be 30%, 20%, 10%, or may ve no improvements at all...
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:02 AM

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well, moving on to 520M from T9550, it's not really an upgrade imho...

if u re really so concerned abt performance with these programs, i suggest more cores instead, such as Phenom II x3 or Core i7 quad
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Sep 13 2010, 11:17 AM)
Astria, maybe you could put "Recommendation" section on the first page. i know it moving quite fast, but i think we have sufficient forumer to keep us updated from time to time nod.gif
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can elaborate further??? such as wat re the sections...

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