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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Jan 19 2011, 07:47 PM)
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post Feb 12 2011, 11:42 PM

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Sorry cos last time while just browsing a website i've found this article

Kelantanese and Jawa might be in the same root maybe or just maybe


Kelantan dan Jawa bagi orang zaman moden ini, dua budaya ini nampak terlalu asing untuk ada kaitan antara satu sama lain. Seperti tidak pernah berketemu antara satu sama lain.

Namun sejarah yang dilupakan akan dibongkar kembali. Dahulu Kelantan dan Jawa mempunyai hubungan yang amat rapat. Sebelum pergi dengan lebih lanjut atau sebelum dikatakan merapu, sila kaji beberapa fakta:

1) Keris kebesaran Sultan Kelantan bernama Keris Majapahit.

2) Sebut wayang kulit, maka orang tahu ianya daripada Kelantan, dan juga

Jawa.

3) Orang Kelantan sangat suka pakai kain batik Jawa. Sehingga

zaman tahun 60an, orang lelaki Kelantan menggunakan kain

batik Jawa sebagai semutar di atas kepala dan diikat pada

pinggang. Inilah trade mark orang Kelantan. Kain batik Jawa

merupakan pakan harian yang wajib.

4) Ada banyak perkataan Jawa yang difahami oleh orang

Kelantan, tetapi tidak Difahami oleh orang Kuala Lumpur.

5) Orang Kelantan mungkin tidak pernah bertemu orang Jawa

pada tahun 1960an-70an

Kelantan purba dikenali dengan gelaran Jawa Kotti yang bermaksud ‘TITIK JAWA’. Pada zaman yang paling awal dalam tahun Masehi, pusat penyebaran budaya Melayu dan Jawa berpusat di Kelantan. Ini kerana zaman dahulu kala Kelantan dikenali orang sebagai Jawa Kotti ( Jawa Point). Kalau menurut dalam “Ikhtisar Sejarah Kelantan” oleh Abdul Razak Mahmud (Ustaz Mat), Bab 2, muka surat 7 & 8, negeri Kelantan dikatakan bernama “Medang Kamulan”. Dalam History Of Java oleh Stamford Raffles muka surat 74, pada lebih kurang tahun 600 Masehi seorang lelaki bernama Aji Saka dari negara asing ( quote: Aji Saka from a foreign country) datang ke Jawa dan memerintah. Menurutnya Aji Saka dari Medang Kamulan.

” The controversy over the true location of Sri Wijaya arises because of the fact that after the death of Maharaja Sri Jayanaga around 692, during the mission to capture Jawa Island, Sri Wijaya seems to have been divided into two states. The eldest son Maharaja Dipang ruled over Amdan Negara, that is, the Malay Isthmus, probably Kelantan/Kedah. The second son, Maharaja Dhiraja, ruled the islands (Sumatera and other islands of the Indonesian archipelago), based at Palembang. After the division into east and west, the name of Sri Wijaya remained in Sumatera, but on the Malay peninsula, a poetic title emerged for the Kelantan/Kedah area, namely, Tanah Serendah Sekebun Bunga (Valley of Flower Garden Land). This title is still found in traditional performing arts such as Mak Yong dance, Wayang Kulit puppet theatre, etc. By 730 the capital of Sri Wijaya in Sumatera moved from Palembang, known as Langkapura, to Kota Mutajap near the river mouth of Jambi in Sumatera.

It is reasonable to speculate that some elements of the Sri Wijayan culture originated in Sumatera, but later spread to other parts of South East Asia from Kelantan/Kedah. Yawakoti meaning Jawa Point, is situated at Bukit Panau hill along the upper Kelantan river near Pergau; some believe this place to be from which Jawanese politics and culture spread out. Jawa Duipa, an ancient name for Kelantan means Tanah Jawa (“land owned by the Jawanese”), or Kawasan Jawa (“Jawanese area”).

Al Tabari states that the word Jawa or Jva was used more widely in ancient times. Jawa in those days meant “Jawanese culture” (i.e. Malay culture), including its centres on the Isthmus, as compared to now when Jawa only refers to Jawa Island in Indonesia. According to one tradition, the Jawanese moved down from Kemboja and spread out to the archipelago.”

Dalam bahasa Jawa asli, tiada perkataan GAJAH. Oleh itu Patih Gajah Mada ini sebenarnya agak misteri bagi ahli sejarah Jawa sendiri.

Gajah Mada is a mysterious historical figure. No historical records about his origin, there’s no tomb to commemorate his magnificent achievement.
He’s probably the only Majapahit historical figure quite unknown where he’s born and where he died. But his legacy, the unified archipelagic empire of Majapahit is quite is the testament of his ambition and genius vision, a bright politician and warrior. Majapahit as the ancient incarnation of modern Indonesia stay forever as inspirations, source of pride and dignity for Indonesian.

According to books and articles I’ve reads here’s the speculations about his origin:

” Using animal name as people name is quite common in ancient Java, Lembu Tal, Kebo Ijo, Kebo Anabrang, Mundingwangi Dikusumah, Ciung Wanara, Mahesa Cempaka, etc. Gajah (means elephant) is known in ancient Java, In Borobudur relief we can find the image of Elephant, probably back then there’s an original Javanese elephant sub-species, but if not it’s possible to import them from Sumatra, since ancient Indonesian ship quite reliable to transport large things. But Gajah is abundant in Sumatra up until now. So the speculations arose.

Gajah Mada probably Malayu or Srivijayan origin, but since young he serve Javanese Majapahit special forces (Bhayangkara, the royal guard).
This theory probably based after the congquest of Malayu by Singhasari. The Pamalayu expedition led by King Kertanegara conquer the court of Malayupura (now Jambi), part of Srivijayan empire that already weaken. Malayupura once stood as rival for Srivijaya before Srivijaya conquer it. Then as Srivijaya weaken, Malayu began to be more important and enjoy certain degree of independence.

This conquest (some says alliance, cause Kertanegara gave gift for the people of Malayu, a huge 6 metres statue made in Java, then transport it to Sumatra) brough many royalties (princess of Malayu like Dara Jingga and Dara Petak), scholars, Buddhist priest (Dharmaputras), artisans, warriors, etc, to Javanese courts. Gajah Mada vast knowledge about various kingdoms, islands, and area around archipelago probably due to Srivijayan knowledge, is he Malayu soldier, that’s why he really know his way when he launch naval attack to Srivijayan capital like he’s ever been there before.”
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post Feb 13 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Feb 13 2011, 02:06 PM)
at kelate now!
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Cool! Ehh, do you have any idea the best budget way to travel from Kelantan to KL every weekend? Because every time take flight, my pocket will berlubang
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post Feb 15 2011, 02:41 PM

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^ train -with sleeping coach bus
9pm up-6am reach

or bus . but train slow a bit ..

8pm up from kota bharu iinm - 7am reach

but long time no sit those d cz i scare abt bus , take flight instead .
you need go to kl for work ? flight every week ,pocket sure lubang lah
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QUOTE(sukatra_aicaca @ Feb 16 2011, 06:57 AM)
pah bui x ag tue??
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QUOTE(masterz_man @ Mar 16 2011, 10:08 PM)
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