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TSgnsumas
post Oct 5 2009, 11:42 PM, updated 17y ago

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After seeing many people asking questions about "why my astro look like crap on my new tv?", I have decided to put a (overly simplified) guide to resolutions, hoping that the LCD & Plasma thread does not fill up with the same questions over and over again (and also because I am bored).

Firstly, you have to know what the different resolutions are (I know ASTRO is not a resolution, but seeing as most forumers do have ASTRO wink.gif )

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Now after seeing that, you should know that atm, 1080p and 720p (full hd and hd, respectively) are the best resolutions you can get currently and ASTRO is the worst, being sub-SD (close to Laserdisc and VCD quality, in fact).

So, when viewing Astro on a HDTV, the picture is stretched to fit the entire screen, which screws up the quality, resulting in a picture which looks like the following pic:

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Do note however, that it is not only ASTRO that has to be stretched, but DVDs as well. A stretched DVD running through Component (480p most of the time) will look like below:

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Even 720p video sources, like 720p mkv files or other stuff (sorry, a bit light headed now) will look like below:

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Finally, the best video source atm, Bluray, runs at native 1080p, and will not be stretched at all when being watched on a 720p or 1080p TV

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Btw, I know Akira isn't reference quality material, but it was the first set of 1080p screenshots I could get my hands on smile.gif

Also, after clicking the URL, click on the 'Full Size' link and click on the pic using your browser (you know, the magnify button which makes it display at it's native resolution).


If the mods don't like this and want to delete it, please inform me via PM first so I can retrieve my links.

Thanks for reading notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Oct 6 2009, 08:27 AM

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Thanks for the enlightenment. The JAV did some good. icon_rolleyes.gif
Hope some more sifu can contribute and make this a pinned.
BTW you didn't explain the acronym of SD ?
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post Oct 6 2009, 08:53 AM

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must give you an applause.

I am bored by people asking questions like
"What LCD/Plasma TV is the best to watch Asstro" - I kind of.... *&^% buy expensive TVs to watch Asstro...
"how to calibre my LCD/Plasma TV in order to make Asstro Programmes look nicer" - I also kind of ....*&^&^%$

I mean - why are people so obsessed with Asstro?
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post Oct 6 2009, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(wuanzi @ Oct 6 2009, 08:53 AM)
must give you an applause.

I am bored by people asking questions like
"What LCD/Plasma TV is the best to watch Asstro" - I kind of.... *&^% buy expensive TVs to watch Asstro...
"how to calibre my LCD/Plasma TV in order to make Asstro Programmes look nicer" - I also kind of ....*&^&^%$

I mean - why are people so obsessed with Asstro?
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astro = astronaut laugh.gif

i found the thread title abit offending, maybe change to a better one? like "beginner's guide to resolutions"
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post Oct 6 2009, 09:14 AM

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Now i know why whenever i went to my parents house i saw the tv is somewhat blur2 although it's a cool tv.

Is there anyway to fix that? if yes maybe TS can put it also.

We watch Astro everyday and seldom watch the HD movie.

Thanks!
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post Oct 6 2009, 09:39 AM

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Cool and informative post!

For those who wanna watch astro in good quality should buy back our old CRTs tongue.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(saladin7 @ Oct 6 2009, 09:14 AM)
Now i know why whenever i went to my parents house i saw the tv is somewhat blur2 although it's a cool tv.

Is there anyway to fix that? if yes maybe TS can put it also.

We watch Astro everyday and seldom watch the HD movie.

Thanks!
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Unfortunately, there is no cure that I know of sad.gif

Maybe we could burn Astro down tongue.gif

That way they have to get new equipment brows.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(saladin7 @ Oct 6 2009, 09:14 AM)
Now i know why whenever i went to my parents house i saw the tv is somewhat blur2 although it's a cool tv.

Is there anyway to fix that? if yes maybe TS can put it also.

We watch Astro everyday and seldom watch the HD movie.

Thanks!
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what kinda cable are you using to connect to the TV...S Video or those Yellow RCA?

What type of Video out does your Astro decoder have?

This post has been edited by azbro: Oct 6 2009, 11:41 AM
TSgnsumas
post Oct 6 2009, 11:33 AM

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Astro looks like crap composite/s-video/component.

The astro website even boasts about having 'laser disc quality' sweat.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Oct 6 2009, 11:33 AM)
Astro looks like crap composite/s-video/component.

The astro website even boasts about having 'laser disc quality' sweat.gif
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you mean if astro have DVI or HDMI, will look better? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 6 2009, 06:43 PM)
you mean if astro have DVI or HDMI, will look better?  biggrin.gif
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Even if astro did have HDMI or DVI, the source the same la.

I only mention those 3 because astro decoder got composite, s-vid and component edi wink.gif

But all also still like shaitz shakehead.gif


Added on October 6, 2009, 6:50 pm
QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 6 2009, 08:27 AM)
Thanks for the enlightenment. The JAV did some good. icon_rolleyes.gif
Hope some more sifu can contribute and make this a pinned.
BTW you didn't explain the acronym of SD ?
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tq tq notworthy.gif

i'm not sifu. all the sifu laugh at me blush.gif

This post has been edited by gnsumas: Oct 6 2009, 06:50 PM
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post Oct 6 2009, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Oct 6 2009, 11:33 AM)
Astro looks like crap composite/s-video/component.

The astro website even boasts about having 'laser disc quality' sweat.gif
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and cd quality audio, while the high powered signal made it realiable even during raining season shakehead.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Oct 6 2009, 06:56 PM)
and cd quality audio, while the high powered signal made it realiable even during raining season  shakehead.gif  doh.gif
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astro boasts about all the stupidest things doh.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(wuanzi @ Oct 6 2009, 08:53 AM)
must give you an applause.

I am bored by people asking questions like
"What LCD/Plasma TV is the best to watch Asstro" - I kind of.... *&^% buy expensive TVs to watch Asstro...
"how to calibre my LCD/Plasma TV in order to make Asstro Programmes look nicer" - I also kind of ....*&^&^%$

I mean - why are people so obsessed with Asstro?
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how to make Astro looks good? buy a trinitron.
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post Oct 6 2009, 07:43 PM

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people are complaining about buying a small kancil and not being able to fit in a fridge. please use your brain.

astro is meant for CRT tv. so, go and buy a CRT tv. the same goes to majority 99% of the tv channels broadcast on the satellites in SEA region.
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post Oct 6 2009, 07:51 PM

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Astro is very deceiving.

It looks fine on CRT, but on HDTV= rclxub.gif


Added on October 6, 2009, 8:17 pmTo those who don't like the pics, I'll update them with better pics and will add the black bars for the upscale Astro and DVD pics smile.gif

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post Oct 6 2009, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Oct 6 2009, 11:33 AM)
Astro looks like crap composite/s-video/component.

The astro website even boasts about having 'laser disc quality' sweat.gif
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laser disc quality = VCD quality

maybe they think VCD > blu ray thumbup.gif

they like to con elders with those "sophisticated" and "high tech" words icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 7 2009, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 6 2009, 11:35 PM)
laser disc quality = VCD quality

maybe they think VCD > blu ray thumbup.gif

they like to con elders with those "sophisticated" and "high tech" words icon_rolleyes.gif
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laser disc is superior in video and audio than VCD lor..
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post Oct 7 2009, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 7 2009, 01:06 AM)
laser disc is superior in video and audio than VCD lor..
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Found this at
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laserdisc#Comparison_to_other_media
listed in ascending order from lowest quality to highest quality.

    * 350×240 (250 lines): Video CD
    * 330×480 (250 lines): U-matic, Betamax, VHS, Video8
    * 400×480 (300 lines): Super Betamax, Betacam (professional)
    * 440×480 (330 lines): analog broadcast
    * 560×480 (420 lines): LaserDisc, S-VHS, Hi8
    * 670×480 (500 lines): ED Betamax
    * 720×480 (500 lines): DVD, MiniDV, Digital8, Digital Betacam (professional)
    * 720×480 (400 lines): Widescreen DVD (anamorphic)
    * 1280×720 (720 lines): D-VHS, HD DVD, Blu-ray, HDV (miniDV - 720p)
    * 1920×1080 (1080 lines): Hi-Vision/MUSE, D-VHS, HD-DVD, Blu-ray, HDV (miniDV - 1080i - 1440 horizontal pixels interpolated to 1920), HDCAM SR (professional)


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post Oct 7 2009, 08:48 AM

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anyone here with pioneer kuro can share their experience watching astro with the kuro?

I was at McD in one cheras outlet..they hv a kuro mounted on the wall (dunno which model) & showing an astro football channel...somehow the PQ actually looks quite good...i was seated probably 10-13 feet away..

Dunno if my eyes playing trick on me
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post Oct 7 2009, 02:51 PM

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10-13 feet away+SD on plasma=it will look okay wink.gif

 

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