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Serious 24 and still never had a relationship, No gf until now, I am 24

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post Oct 11 2009, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 11 2009, 01:42 PM)
that is not love. and love doesn't count whether a girl is pretty or not.
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If you ask 10 guys out there that has been through a few relationships, and they will just say what you said above might be bull. I remember having a few guy friends in college that have been through a few relationships. They told me that after a few relationship tries, they realised that there's no such thing as "love doesn't look at how good their looks are". They said that it is because a girl is attractive or pretty or hot, the guy will go near her and starts to understand her. Once he got enuf understanding of the good points, he will go for the chase. This is proven as most "not quite attractive girls" will not have guys approaching them in the first place. The guys will normally be stuck with the more attractive ones and try to know them more. One of men's realistic characteristics.

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post Oct 11 2009, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 11 2009, 03:36 PM)
but love seriously doesn't count on looks smile.gif


Added on October 11, 2009, 3:37 pm

but love seriously doesn't count on looks smile.gif
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Yeah I understand what you mean but the problem is, if a girl doesn't look attractive enough, the guys wouldn't even try to know her, not even saying love her. Imagine a realistic situation where a guy has 2 female friends, one attractive but doesn't talk much with him, and another that isn't attractive but talks a lot. For any guy out there, the obvious answer is the guy will try and love the attractive one first. That's how we guys are. I can't deny that but I am like this too. However I am hoping to change my perception.
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post Oct 11 2009, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Oct 11 2009, 06:52 PM)
thumbup.gif very true. I see this happening around me. You can sense the desire for attention in their eyes. But everytime they try and act cute, guys just shrug and look away - always the friend never the lover.

It's quite sad really.

While the hot girls are sick of all the attention they are getting to the point where they have a aversion to the average bloke that keeps on trying to talk/empathize/connect with her.
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Yeaps, the not so attractive ones are always friends, never lovers. Even if the attractive ones talk very less than the non attractive ones, guys will still throw hopes on the attractive ones. Although, the part on whether suitable or not is a case in the future, guys will not spend their time on such trivial matters that is less attention giving than the girls' looks and attributes.
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post Oct 11 2009, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 11 2009, 08:28 PM)
yea but in the end the not so attractive ones suits him. its always like that. seen so many cases.
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Although at the end, the not attractive one suits him, the guy will not admit. I have seen many cases. A guy and a girl is soooo suitable for each other the way everyone see it, but the guy seems to be minding about the girl's physical size. The guy is not in a state to accept that he found a suitable girl that looks like this and so on. At the end, the unattractive one gets nth.
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post Oct 12 2009, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 12 2009, 08:02 PM)
i like this. tats why now i`m 42! n i`m stil alone
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If what he says is right, then I am totally alone for the rest of my life.
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post Oct 15 2009, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Oct 15 2009, 07:39 PM)
Very important.

I speak from experience that it is true.

If you cant take care of yourself...giving yourself shit everyday.. you will feel like shit....and talk like shit...and your social life would be shit.
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Are you guys sure that by doing the above, I would leap out of the single bachelor-hood soon? I feel like 24 might be too late to even start first love.
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post Oct 15 2009, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(GloomyMuffin @ Oct 15 2009, 08:53 PM)
its easy.... get a GOKU hairstyle... and BOOM, every girls (even some man) are attracted, lol...
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WTF? Goku hairstyle? Do girls even dig that these days? I thought they go for simpler blonde/brown hair guys who act and look cool?
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post Oct 15 2009, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 15 2009, 09:17 PM)
to us they are tai yi longs. only lalas dig.
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Or even worse. Ppl think I might be a crazy emo punk. No no. I want to attract homey and geeky girls, not the Lalas that show their b**bs to different guys every day.
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post Nov 14 2009, 10:27 PM

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Wow, you girls just revived my thread. I am still single right now and I can't find the right soulmate.
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post Nov 15 2009, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Nov 15 2009, 03:41 PM)
She wear sexy lingerie and watch TVB in the evenings while eating cookies, ice cream and char koay teow.


Added on November 15, 2009, 3:46 pmA successful career Singaporean woman (or man for that matter) does not make for good wife (or husband material).

They have been fully and completely subordinated by an entire social system that places the work ethic before raising a family or building a real community.

Long working hours and a premium placed on work instead of family and community, along with the high price of housing and EDUCATION work together to naturally limit the birth rates of middle class, educated Singaporeans, who ironically believe the world about their own values system.
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I'd agree. There will be more conflicts when I am engaged in a r'ship with a Singaporean girl. Their financial demands are sometimes too much. I heard from friends that girls there don't even look at you if you earn below S$3000 and imagine this as a Malaysian. We need to ear around US$6k++ to just qualify for them. That's a no no.

The reason why we have so little girls is because too many girls are also attracted to foreign men, not only Singaporean. A norm, when an Aust student comes to study in Malaysia for a year or two gets to get some nice girls just because they are 'cool' and they are different. That leaves us with not much of choices.

One thing I'd agree, rushing is not good but it's not that I just stay put and do nothing. I don't want to end up at my mid 30s being alone, envying others who already got married or are having a stable r'ship with their partners. I can foresee this happening because men are more aggressive and desperate nowadays and every single, averagely looks and character girl will attract their attention and turn them on to pursue. A simple example happened in a marketing class in my college. The class had 5 guys and 1 average girl studying there, according to the lecturer. The guys will somehow rather give her a flower once in a while and each of them will take turns. This is an example of male desperation.
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post Nov 16 2009, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Stefanov @ Nov 16 2009, 02:23 AM)
FML.
same case here,
after seeing POYOZER post

when we studying, no $$ go to clubbing
when we working, no girls to date..
or maybe get older looks.

now, i getting worried like cheesenium, as same age as him.
same shit.
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You can stop making me worry now. I know it's hard to make this up. Some people say, we're the best to go find a gf when we're studying in tertiary but it seems in my time, most of the girls are either taken or very ego. Then some say, wait until you work, then you can find one. OK, so if I work in a place where only married aunties and uncles are in a company, then what? Alright, maybe I change company and I go into a pond full of girls that are average and my age. There's no surety that any of them is available due to their early maturing stages. As I said earlier in the posts, some girls my friends met wanted to have a long lasting stable relationship from the age of 18. And let's take a wild guess. Imagine at 20, while we're still at college, they started to find a good guy and get stabled down. We start work at maybe 23/24/25. What do we get at the end? We get to be their BFFs, that's what. We may be their listening bags where we can keep their problems from their BFs and all but never a replacement as BFs in the future. So I already gave up. I will let fate take it's course, it's not like what I can do with my own might can change the fact.
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QUOTE(samteng @ Nov 16 2009, 09:48 AM)
This is by no means making TS envious or worry more. I'd just like to share a little bit of my 6-year long singlehood I had before it was finally over couple of months ago. I just hope that my search has ended there and then.

During my college years, I never even had the opportunity to choose a decent looking girl in my course as I was in a predominantly male IT course. So I had to resort to look for girls online. Talk about ICQ during that era. Friendster wasn't so popular then. So finally I found one but it was short-lived. Didn't last for more than 6 months due to some personal issues as well as parental objection that I was still a student and should concentrate on my studies and yada yada. Anyway, she wasn't the best I could find so I decided to keep my options open for fear that if I were to go steady with her, I would miss the good stuff that came along and wouldn't be able to change my mind that easily due to the commitment I would have made.

However, the good stuff did come along but most of them (if not all) were already taken and those who weren't taken were pretty vain and fussy pots. Talk about being b****y and slutty. During my 6-year long singlehood, I can say I did enjoy my freedom quite a great deal but could have done better. However, it would be much more ideal if I didn't have to wait that long before I could find the girl of my dreams. I have been working for 3 years plus and like what TS mentioned, most of the colleagues in the 3 companies (including my present one) I have worked at (men and women alike) are already either attached or married. What made me feel worse was, they are slightly older or around my age. That kinda made me regret for not seizing the opportunity during my tertiary years but then it wasn't so easy due to the intense competition in my campus. I didn't bother to compete with those pricks because I knew somehow I would lose out and be embarassed. Even if I did get a girl of my dreams back then, I knew I wouldn't be able to keep her for long anyway as I would need to deal with those bees who were around her. I saw a lot of breakup cases back in college so that kinda made me dread even more getting engaged in a relationship with those girls. And yeah, like what TS said, these gals would come crying to you asking you to be their listener and spare tyre so that they could get a rebound. So I tried my level best to comfort them and cheer them up but darn ,all I did  at the end of the day was reconcile them to their abusive and possessive jerky bfs. So ultimately, I felt like a sohai myself cuz little did I realise that they would only treat those guys who were willing to listen to them as mere FRIENDS and nothing more. You practically enter into the FRIENDSHIP zone when you lend those emotionally bruised girls your ear.

So finally I just had to resort to Friendster/Facebook to find the girl of my dreams and luckily I succeeded. I can foresee that more girls would start giving a damn about me now than before. Girls only come to you when you least expect and need them (probably they want you to regret your decision or some sh!t). But whenever you need them most, they distance themselves from you. This also explains why girls are somewhat attracted to attached/married men as espoused in one of the threads here. Talk about tried and tested goods. BF/Husband material. It is a bizzare society we are living in.

I hereby rest my case  smile.gif
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I like some points you raised here and I agree with them. However I failed to understand a few myself until today:

1) Why would averagely/decent girls be normally taken when we meet them in companies?
2) Why would some guys can get such good girls who would cry to our shoulders and those guys are such jerks?
3) Why would some girls go for married men rather than us single, bachelors?
4) Why is looks more important than money nowadays? (Personal experience - Girls would rather pay for handsome guys who are poor and go out with them rather going out with us who can pay for them)
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QUOTE(B@rt @ Nov 16 2009, 11:26 AM)
1) cos good girls are hard to find as well
2) cos they dare to kau
3) because they have the 5Cs
4) I wouldn't say looks are more important but like u said urself u also go for homey girls who are pretty mah.  so girls also want handsome guys loh.  Plus when u go out u usually notice good looking ppl. You don't notice the ordinary looking ppl. Thus u only remember things like "Oh that day I saw a few couples where the girls with handsome guys but the girls pay for themselves leh" but you didn't notice the 100 other couples who were also at the shopping mall only the guy has a pot belly and his girlfriend has pimples on the face.
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No, you're wrong. I actually noticed even the average couples. Some under average girls get to hold a handsome guy and enjoys paying them. Some are even more IMPOSSIBLE. I saw very pretty and hot girls with guys who look worse than me. According to my college mates, they'd say "Hey, look. That guy looks worse than you but he's having a gf twice as hot and pretty than the prettiest chick in class."

This again, I fail to understand. I thought pretty girls would have high tastes but seems not. There was even a case where a pretty girl got screamed at and slapped by an ugly guy in the public. The guy ran off with anger yelling loudly that "I'll yell whoever I like and whenever I like" but the girl came crying to beg the guy to accept her back. AMAZING!
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QUOTE(Boolean @ Nov 16 2009, 11:54 AM)
ya i saw something like that happen b4... what the heck is going on in this world...

i'm 21 years and single since forever.
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Well, after years of being treated as a BFF for girls, I give up. I'll let fate and God plan everything. It's not like if I try and kau any random girl I know, I can get her. I am not in an environment where I get to meet girls my age and below though, so forcing is not a good way out of it. I'll have nature take its course and if I am destined as single, so be it.
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QUOTE(PinkieBunny @ Nov 16 2009, 11:59 AM)
-cries- the world is changing. and im single too.since ferever =.=
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Why are you crying when you're single? I am single. Maybe in the future there's a chance we may compliment each other.
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Nov 16 2009, 12:30 PM)
For strangers, look is most important. Same applied to first impression.

The next step is different.
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Honestly, I despise some girls these days. They often rely too much on first impression. Imagine 2 guys, one superb looking, one normal looking, walk in the first day of college. Most girls will have their sights set on the good looking one. With such first impressions in mind, they tend to dig more about the good looking one and wil not even bother communicate with the other. Don't you think if all girls act this way, normal looking people will have no chance at all? There's not much of a next step now after first impressions.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Nov 16 2009, 06:59 PM)
if u were given 2 choices of girls

one is with hawt body and nice face, but attitude is slutty, b****y, waste your money, demanding, only she say u kenot say

another one is with average look (but still presentable after makeup), not so magnificent body, shorter than you by 3 feet and more, but she got every nice qualities that many men dream of, such as helping you to save money, being independent as much as possible, sufficiently smart, and able to accept ur family members, and the like

which would you choose as wife?

the answer is obvious, its just that many of guys cannot accept the truth, that is god will never give u a perfect product, couples are meant to complement each other, a+b = 100%, if both also perfect, then add up would exceeding 100% which is abnormal.

btw, 80% girls look the same the moment they just wake up whistling.gif
lulz
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I am not saying I want a hot girl or sexy watever girl but I just hope for an average girl. She doesn't need to be grand looking with 30+cm long legs and so, but as long as acceptable to me, it's already good. However, most girls that I feel acceptable are normally taken. This world, I mean this country doesn't have enough females to compliment the males.
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QUOTE(samteng @ Nov 17 2009, 11:44 AM)
At least it shows that a girl is wanted rather than unwanted. Kena screwed upside down is a lesser evil compared to having nobody want to take a glance at her.

Yes, NO to rape, molest, and incest. but yes to jual mahal-ness and playing hard to get.
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NO NO. Girls, please don't jual mahal for your own good. One of my cousins kena sth like this and it's all becoz girl jual mahal.

Story: Cousin liked a girl, let's call Lily. Lily was a very unpredictable person and seldom talks with people. Lily talks with cousin most so cousin tot he got chance. So he tried asking Lily out a few times but Lily didn't even agree to go even once.

Another girl, Mary, liked my cousin very much and showed it thru her actions and words. My cousin although still likes Lily, began to realise how good Mary was. After 1 mth, Lily saw cousin going out with Mary holding hands as a couple. She looked at them with shiny tears flowing down and suddenly she ran to a corner and cried. Mary went to look after her as Mary and cousin went after to see what happened. Lily bursted in greater tears asking cousin why he never pursued her more and why he accepted Mary. She said that all along, she was also very interested with cousin but just because she tried to jual mahal in the first few tries, she missed it.

MORAL: Girls who play mahal will get the above. Never play mahal unless the guy doesn't have any second choices.
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QUOTE(samteng @ Nov 18 2009, 02:08 PM)
To redracer2004,

You may want to read the below post from a SG forum to make yourself feel that you are not alone.

She's already 28 while you're only 24. Happy reading and cheers!

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Moral of the above story: Don't aim for an unachievable goal. For us SEAsians to get Japanese / Korean mates, it's near to impossible. Firstly, they are not as 'good and pure' as we think they are. Most people there are money minded. You can easily note from the various 'you know what' movies available on the net that comes from Japan. According to a friend of mine, Japanese people opt to these movies for income, meaning, they rather sacrifice themselves to exchange for money, so no money no talk.

And of course, one reason Japanese men want Japanese women more is because of their open-ness despite them being asians. I am not going to elaborate but you get what I mean.

I would say that, don't be choosy. She's 28 and she's too matured to even get a decent 30s guy to date with. I am not that choosy, it's just that the girls here are like her, also very choosy.



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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Nov 18 2009, 03:44 PM)
So you judge all Japanese girls based on porn stars? Fail, dude.  laugh.gif
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It's not that I want to but it's the fact. A few of my friends went to Japan once and it was crazy they told me. They have those p**n producing companies almost every corner of the cities. They heard from locals that the reason is because a lot of women couldn't afford / excel in studies so they can't find a decent job. Their only way to earn money good enough to make themselves a branded slave is through that. According to my friends, a lot of women are willing to do so rather than find some decent jobs because of how competitive living is over there. A little ramen stall under a tree would sell ramen at 600yen a bowl, around RM20 in Malaysia, and imagine their cost of living. That's why Japanese women are normally money minded just like any other high cost of living countries in the world. Malaysia is not to this extent yet and hopefully will not as I don't want to be a victim of money eating girls.

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