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 LYN Official Toyota Vios Owners Thread!, Thread for all LYN's Toyota Vios owners!

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michael9413
post Jan 23 2010, 08:33 PM

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well let us know the time... weekend???
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post Jan 25 2010, 05:13 PM

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well price increase or not we duno but if you are willing to wait y not... i anticipate the look, hopefully change to the look like Toyota Belta in JP...

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post Jan 26 2010, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(McRyan @ Jan 26 2010, 12:14 AM)
change from 14" to 15" ori rim
handling n cornering r better, potenza is silent too, but brake tak makan jor
shld i change bck to 14" ? cos 15" braking system is not tat makan aldy
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oh u change to potenza ke... i thought u are in PP2... haha... RE030 is not that good for me... i rather change to Hankook V12... how much u bought it??? mind to share???
well PP2 stiff sidewall means the sidewall of the tire is kinda hard... as it is for better handling and highspeed maneuver, your original size 175/65 R14 is a bit softer in the sidewall... if your car suspension is soft and tire also soft sidewall then it will give you more comfort but handling in corners and highspeed will be quite bad... the response of steering will be slightly slower about 1 sec... so harder sidewall tire give you more confident on handling and highspeed maneuver...
understand??? if not i think we need to meet up then can show u the difference of Vios 1st and 2nd Gen suspension...

QUOTE(vios2002 @ Jan 26 2010, 09:05 AM)
i dont think so the wheel size is the main cause, when you increase the rim size the rim width also increase so this generally cornering and braking grip also increase.

If brake tak makan or when u increase the brake force still does not slow u down as u want and it continue reduce the braking grip ... this is call brake fate ...normally this happen when u continue hard braking and the temp of the brake pad is building up alot.... for stock pad can take max 250c for street use or u can upgrade to sport brake pad.
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is the feel only no problem with the brake had that feeling b4, as i'm on PP2 last time when i change to V12 i had that feeling on the 1st week also... but later it feels fine and it is braking well.. smile.gif
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post Jan 26 2010, 10:00 AM

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110km/h... haha low profile... btw i don think bridgestone is more comfort further more Potenze = Performance... u should go the tires that i recommend but remember u will loose on handling... smile.gif
i think 195/55 R15 is ideal for u... coz it will give you a lil handling with comfort... hmmm i think best for you to change to 195/55 R15 which has Michelin Primacy LC, Falken 912, Yokohoma C Drive... it is more comfort... smile.gif
there is no such things as 15" rim is design for what braking system... our Wiralution is using drum brake behind wat and they are using 16" and 17" rim also... haha even some Vios J is on 16" already then some Vios G or S is on 17" already so???

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yup those 3 tires that i listed there is comfort tires for bigger vehicle... Primacy LC & C Drive if not mistaken only from 15 and above... 912 from 185/60 R14...
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post Jan 26 2010, 10:54 AM

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well stick to 15" for better handling for Dugong as it's suspension a lot off ppl complain it is a bit too soft... but i still see it's unit registered per week is top of the chart of non-local brand haha...
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post Jan 26 2010, 11:39 AM

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got this size but it is oversize... please stick to 195/55 R15... it think that will fits u well...
just use comfort tire but no Continental CC1 and Yokohama A Drive... tat is too basic... Primacy LC, Yokohama C Drive and Falken 912 i think it will suits Vios better than those entry level tires... smile.gif
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post Jan 27 2010, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(adrianocy @ Jan 26 2010, 02:35 PM)
hi....my car front right side seems to have some loosing sound when going thru watever 3-4inch deep pothole...im not sure whether its comin fr da absorber or engine parts..anyone experience this b4? btw, im on a 08 S-Specs dugong
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i think is the squeaking sound from the belt after it got splash of water on it... smile.gif

QUOTE(McRyan @ Jan 26 2010, 03:49 PM)
now i know y my tires is bumpy cos i make a mistake of the tires pressure lol
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QUOTE(McRyan @ Jan 27 2010, 09:23 AM)
does anyone applys 195/60R15 on vios b4 ? can fit in ?
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Again 195/60 R15 cannot fits u wheel ok... it is over size when u consult to tire consultant... is a no!!!!
how much do you put it??? 34 PSI in front and 32 PSI at the back??? should be around there woh... my Vios 1st Gen also using that pressure...

QUOTE(raoul @ Jan 26 2010, 03:58 PM)
I intend to change to 195/55/R15 Michelin PP2 to improve wet condition driving, higher speed handling and also better corner handling.

Or should I get Michelin Primacy LC ?
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yes it will improve quite noticeably for PP2, is it a no for Primacy LC if yours is Dugong... coz Dugong suspension is already comfort if you put some more comfort tire it will be bad in corner handling and high speed maneuver...

QUOTE(ihatemyguts @ Jan 26 2010, 10:31 PM)
there are actually 3 gens for vios, the first one has long foglamps following the form of the bumper, and the 2nd one having round foglamps, and the current one
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yes McRyan is correct!!! that is a facelift so it is consider a same generation... pls read properly, new Vios for all the EBD and BA where old vios don have and the design also different... do you need everything to be same??? read Waja CPS and also Persona CPS spec... it is almost the same so it is the model??? duh...
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post Jan 28 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(ihatemyguts @ Jan 27 2010, 11:06 PM)
Well, some people I've been speaking to previously had the same idea as mine, so I guess we all stand corrected. smile.gif
If you checked back, you would notice that I was replying to michael, actually. smile.gif
Secondly, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to explain how a generation shift is defined, properly at least.
And lastly, I wasn't offended by neither michael, nor mcryan.  This is after all, a forum for enthusiasts, and I am here to learn more as I go.
I just didn't appreciate the blatant rudeness, that's all, and I wouldn't want to resort to ignoring anyone ; after all, today they might be rude to me, tomorrow they might be enlightening me with new knowledge! (properly, I hope)

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1stly if you talk to a SA of Toyota those ppl will laugh at u if you mention it is the 3rd Gen... whole world also know that facelift cannot be consider as generation change... a bunch of ppl did not represent of the whole world... please go for Wikipedia for generation chart...

QUOTE(McRyan @ Jan 28 2010, 10:21 AM)
michael, wat is the rim width of vios j rim besi?
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if not mistaken is either 5.0j or 5.5j... smile.gif very slim only
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QUOTE(xenothrix @ Jan 28 2010, 10:49 AM)
michael, read from ur previous post that GY NCT-5 is rubbish. Toyota SC just replaced my GT3 with NCT-5 due to the tyre eat 1 side problem. Is it really that bad in wet or downhill? Reason being, thinking to sell them off when it's still new now and get a new set of PP2.
1 funny thing is i hv to pay for the alignment/balancing to get my tyres replaced. n also they refuse to replace the spare tyre saying it's not "on the wheel".
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yes... it is not that nice la... after 50% wear... still ok b4 that but careful in the rain/wet...
u need to upgrade to 15" if you are on 14" currently... so it is up to u... PP2 is ur safest bet... u cannot put directional tires onto ur wheels coz later u will scold me "y the tire noise is too loud"... haha
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post Jan 29 2010, 08:50 AM

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Bro we are talking about Malaysia... yes the Chasis got previous model on it already, but it is not in malaysia... so it is 2nd Gen in VIOS...

QUOTE(McRyan @ Jan 28 2010, 03:00 PM)
will it be nice if fit in 185/60R14?
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it will able to fit in... smile.gif no worries... but when i see it, is like they are not enough air cos the tire width is slightly wider than the rim... i'm using 195/55 R15 with my Ori 15" rim which is only 5.5jj which is the min requirement fitting in for 195 series of tire...
generally 195 tires fit 5.5jj ~7jj of rims, 185 fits 5jj~6.5jj (if not mistaken)
so it is up to ur own preference

QUOTE(nonano @ Jan 28 2010, 03:07 PM)
hello everyone. just want to ask about my car. that day i drive and got take over from behind for a myvi. that time dy 140km/h. i want to ask myvi faster? and i didn't press more the pedal cause my car already start being shaky and unstable. is it normal? my alignment all ok. my car is stock. the myvi also stock i think.
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cannot be wat... ur alignment is ok but not ur wheel balancing leh... maybe ur tires got problem also... take to a tire shop and see... try Kee Hin (Michelin shop) at Old Klang Road... they are quite good in this... my Vios 140~160 also no shaking but normally max is around 140 only...

QUOTE(ihatemyguts @ Jan 28 2010, 06:36 PM)
I'm not saying the whole world agrees with me; I was just pointing out that the familiar bunch that I hang out with just so happens to have the same train of thought as mine, is that really so hard to comprehend?  rolleyes.gif
I don't mind being wrong, if you bothered to read my previous explanation it should be pretty clear what I was trying to get across.  But I guess that's probably how you communicate with others, so I'll respect that.

So, thank you for letting me know that a face-lift does not equate to a generation shift. Thank you, so very, very, very much. You are most kind, sir.
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On another note, finally scraped some time to get my car serviced. Got a RM 529 bill, though. Ouch sad.gif
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no la... may be u got my tone wrongly... or yea i might be a bit rough on word... I'm sorry if it hurts ur feeling...
Cheers...

QUOTE(ihatemyguts @ Jan 28 2010, 09:17 PM)
60k, actually.
i declined the air-cond service but changed the belt and brake pads
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BTW what brake pads u change??? from ur RM520 i guess it is the V Belt and the rear brake pad... for that price is ok la... not that expensive... front brake pad will cost u a bomb, around RM350 for that... sweat.gif but it is nice to use compare to 3rd Party... less brake powder and also very good braking power, it is from Akebono (not sure the spelling is correct or not) Japan...

get ready around er... RM1.2k for the 80k change... the package and Flush ATF and my V-belt it cost me around RM1250...
wheels and air-cond matter u can take it outside... if not check at Denso at Glenmarie for air-cond matters... they sub-out this 2 categories to outer resources... haha...

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post Jan 29 2010, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(ihatemyguts @ Jan 29 2010, 11:11 AM)
This used to be me laugh.gif
No worries, pal.  It all turned out good in the end, and I learned something new. smile.gif
I opted for the locally-manufactured ones (RM 119.50) instead of the "imported from japan" ones at RM 400+. Seems like it has gone up in price. sad.gif
The v-belt itself was RM 46.00, but I'm just happy now that there is no longer that rattling noise whenever the car starts up cold. laugh.gif

Ouch, RM 1.2k?  Thanks for letting me know, at least I'll be mentally prepared when going for the 80k service, haha.
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I had such a nice seat to watch my car getting serviced.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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bro... they should not sell local mades already... that was the last statement from a SA in Sg. Rasau Klang UMW toyota service center... when is ur service btw??? i asked about 2 weeks ago... which branch do you wen? UMW or Franchise... all parts that is sold and fixed into ur car is qualify by UMW Toyota Malaysia, outside parts they will not help u to install it... i tried to ask them to install my iridium spark plug into my Vios rejected...
the local made quality is not that good... a lot of powder and the brake pad wear will not last that long also... imagine front brake pad and last 60k... now my wheel always kena wash or wipe quite some numbers or powder...

FYI normal 80k service is around RM850 but flushing ATF another RM200+... so i change m V belt that time also that's y a lil more expensive... great to hear that u have changed urs now... rear brake pad not that expensive... around RM250 i think...

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err... RM200 to change all i think... not much as others car design... smile.gif try to ask SC... ask them to list down parts by parts price then the labour for the change... so u know mah... smile.gif u can just call the SC branch and ask...
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congrates... smile.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 04:46 PM

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they all don scare die one... floating already still drive that fast... like my fren 160km/h with his Myvi... scary...
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well it maybe manufacturing defects from the other branch... but still ppl is like bashing the brand haha... coz a lot of Toyota cars sold they are not happy... y outdated technology car also can out beat their so call high tech car...
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the whole mirror gone or just the cover for the signal is spoiled...
replacement Ori not cheap leh... try to ask whether can replace the signal cover or not...
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i'm not sure leh have to ask sorry... as i'm not driving the 2nd Gen of Vios
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QUOTE(McRyan @ Feb 1 2010, 11:26 AM)
yo, just now i went to workshop, thy pump my tires 200kpi only due to reason tires air pressure will kembang in hot weather, is tat true? or i shld stick wf the air pressure tat toyota recommend? i m on 175 one
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bro... look at ur recommended pressure at the door... 175/56 R14 should be around 210 kPA should be around 31 PSI... that is cold pressure then expect it to be around 2~3 psi higher (recommended by Michelin to pump 2~3 PSI higher when u drive more than 1km from cold start)... so 210 kPA os a bit low... drive to petrol station nearby add around 33 PSI for front and 31 PSI for back it should be ok... smile.gif
try out and let us know

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timing chain... it suppose to last for life time...

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