hey guys,

my atos odometer has reached 160,000++, it's 2003 yr car and now lying in workshop coz i've problem of starting my car when my engine cools down in the morning. this happened twice in this wk.

besides that earlier on, my car was overheated and the mechanic has removed my thermostat.
that time while fixing the overheat problem, the mechanic got poured in water while the engine still not totally cool down..white smokes coming out..n duno my gasket got spoilt or not because of this. Ever since then, my car engine always need to top up water everyday, ~250ml or lesser. but when the water is poured into it, the water storage tank water level will increase and i need to pump out the extra water too. it has been few wks like this but only recently i sent to hyundai workshop to fix due to the hard starting problem.

the hyundai ppl told me may need to overhaul my car and gotta spend around 3k perhaps to fix it. my car value i guess is around 10~11k now. i'm not very sure.

but jus wondering whether it's worthwhile to fix it or sell it directly??

can any of the forummers advise me. but wondering any 2nd hand dealers will accept such car or not. if trade in to buy new car, also duno whether they will accept faulty car.

appreciate for your guys kind feedback

if i were u...id fix it...do the overhaul etc etc watever is needed to get it back up to good running condition...then either sell it or keep it.


either way. fixing is needed....coz its gonna be really difficult to sell a faulty car.

yes, like mADmAN said earlier, u still must repair then only decide whether to keep or to sell.. anyway, since u already loss so much, if sell sure not worth lol.. but that also depends on ur current financial status.. boleh tahan change car lo.. tak boleh then use back lor

The mechanic is downright dumb for pouring water while the engine is still very hot.

If you want to fix the problem, either you use this:

Holts RADWELD - Fixes any radiator/cooling system leak.

or you can try this radiator specialist in SS19 Subang Jaya (near the SHELL SS19 Subang Jaya).
"YM Radiator Specialist". Half shop.
He is specialist in cooling system and radiator leaking problems, only. Honest and friendly man.

Regardless whether you wanna sell the car or not, you must be liable to fix the faulty crucial items. Second hand dealers ain't blind to accept a severely faulty car.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Sep 29 2009, 04:15 PM

Gasket is just a small problem. Since u need to top up water every now n then, your gasket is definitely gone. Worse, if u hv cracked engine head.
Over heated engine will probably hv burnt piston rings as well.

Since u open up your engine, might as well do top n bottom overhaul
1 shot, then your car is back to life.

Trouble starting is mostly due to problems with the ignition system (distributor, sparks, ignition coil,...) and fuel system.. Check those first.

Overheating problems on the other hand, are due to faults in the water pump, clogged radiator or a stuck thermostat. Coolant overflowing to the reservoir tank might indicate a bad radiator cap, a leaking head gasket or worst case, a cracked head..

it seems that your radiator has a problem here.

- clean the tangki of radiator. (fins by fins)
- check for leakage / if defective, change a new unit, no point repair.
- use good coolant such as Toyota coolant.
- remove thermostate permenantly
- check the radiator fan
- check any leaks at the radiator resevoir

otherwise sell it

need to rebuild the engine cheaper than 3k? eheheh pm me.

Hmm,2nd time I see you giving feedback on this product.You must really like it very much


A 2004 Atos fully working cost around RM16k so I think ur car wont even fetch Rm11k.

This post has been edited by 779364: Sep 29 2009, 07:01 PM

hey guys, thanks a lot for ur kind inputs...

as what u all have shared, no 2nd car dealer will accept faulty car...have decided to fix it though i'm scared of the cost..

by the way my termostat has been taken out last time already when the overheating happened..

the hyundai techician had did a check up but couldnt sure of the problem as they need to open up the engine etc to c..scared engine head got problem..

but right now, they will change the gasket n as they need to check the engine, engine oil gotta change also lah n not sure what are the other parts they are changing...and will clean up the engine head i guess..quoted rm800++

but not sure whether my car will be ok or not...if still not ok..then maybe overhaul is the word already...sigh

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Added on October 3, 2009, 1:12 pmafter the technician changed those stuffs..today they informed my dad that my crankshaft need to be change. It will cost me RM1.8k!!!!
may i know whether it is so expensive??? and what's the use of the crankshaft and how come it will spoilt???

i read from other websites, they said usually dragsters will cause their crankshaft to spoilt..but i'm not a racer..fastest in highway drove 140km/h only which was years ago too..now fastest at 130km/h only once a while...

appreciate for your guys advices again!

thanks

This post has been edited by spiderwick: Oct 3 2009, 01:12 PM

hi bro,
my Atos prima previously also got barring problem but under warranty so no need to pay.
Why dont you try other reliable services company as hyundai or other distributor is well known charge premium services fees.
since your car quite old already, you might just look for reliable foreman as they may be able to help you get second hand spare part lo..

I just happen to surf into this thread, you may read what I have posted in another LYN Kia related thread.

Regardless what others say about KIA, they are dam good for value cars.
I just return from Kia service center - Setapak, My car, an old 2003 Sportage - I know that sending the car to the principle service center is going to be more expensive than out side mechanic workshops but I don't care. Not that I am rich as you can see I could only afford an old 10 yrs old Sportage around 20K. I like thie big service centers because they follow their check list for servicing which has more things involve than a normal workshop. These extra check list and the replacement parts are genuine. That is something that is very satisfactory and to keep your car healthy, when I travel long distance I am rest assured that my car will be more reliable(in my mind), not that it will NOT breakdown 100% even my friend's 2 months old Exora BOLD broke down half way going back home to Sg Petani from KL. What have you got to say about that ? KIA service centers will have a track record of your car whereby Ah Chong or Ah Kow workshop do not have. KIA service centers are professional enough to handle yr car. There will be some service centers may not be up to par due to many reasons so therefore look for the bigger centers. I understand that many KIA owners will not send their cars back there once the warranty period is over, this is a big mistake. How foolish this is..... a professional work is available and they are running away from it. Ah Chong and Ah Kow workshop can't and will not be able to set up a workshop like this.

So please be wise because you choose a good car, you bought it with confidence, and it will serve you well if you send it to a professional service center.