Just wanna ask...by using a ps3 as a blu ray player,is there any 'obivious' difference between a FullHD & a HDReady LCD tv in terms of the picture quality? and does the motionflow(100 hz or 200 hz) has any effect when watching a movie...

This post has been edited by camrycilver: Sep 28 2009, 02:16 AM

it depends on how big the screen is and how far away you are sitting

http://hdinstallers.com/calculator.htm

full HD picture quality is much better.

not when u're watching from the crappy Astro or other SD sources

Get the FullHDlah...ppl. now talking abt Super FullHD end of the year and you still want HD only for your PS3?...price between HD and FullHD also not much difference....

Does FULL HD means theres no lines at top and bottom? If i use a HD Ready Plasma, with HDMI DVD player, will i still get the lines at top and bottom?

Sorry i'm not so smart at this. please advise

You are planning to buy a TV or already bought a HD Ready TV?

Nowadays ppl. are confused with FullHD, HD ready, HDMI ready whatever..

Lines on top or bottom (or left and right) depends on the recorded media.
If the movie is recorded in 4:3 format, of course you will get black bars at the sides.
If the movie is recorded in aspect ratio like 1.85:1 or 2.39:1, you will get lines at the top and bottom.

Nothing to do with FHD or HD or HDMI whatever.

But you do get to 'Zoom' the movie to remove the black lines using the TV remote control.

Full HD = 1920 (V) X 1080 (H) lines on yr screen.
HD ready = 1280 (V) X 720 (H) lines on yr screen.

How this will factor in the viewing pleasure, depends on the source (bluray, dvd, astro.... not the player - HDMI upscale, etc).

If you have PS3 and is playing bluray movies, then Full HD is the best way to view the movie (if yr screen is bigger than 40in). If yr screen is smaller than that, no diff (to me la...)

Again, if u using PS3 or bluray player for bluray movies, get a screen that supports 24Hz or 24 frames/second. Films are captured at that speed, and at 24Hz, the pic matches best our eyes and screen shudder will be reduced to a minimum. If not, the faster the refresh rate (200hz) will be best (tho some shudder can be detected, again with my own eyes la...)

If u r using HDMI DVD players to upscale DVD movies or mainly see Astro, HD ready panels will suit you. But beware that HD ready panels are slowing dying and is not future proof. Oh... even upcoming Digital TV (in yr 2015) broadcasts in 720p only - thats HD ready only.

Finally, as bro Azbro explained it, black bars on yr screen is dependent on how the movie was captured. To fit the entire movie into the screen, u will have black bars on top/bottom (21:10 widescreen cinema ratio) or even on the sides (4:3 Standard CRT TV ratio). Only 16:9 ratio movies will fill yr entire screen. All this has nothing to do with the panels, again its the source.

This post has been edited by Poadster: Sep 28 2009, 11:29 AM

Thank you all

Alredy own a toshiba regza 42' hd ready lcd tv...went 2 d shop,can't c any obivious difference btwn a full hd n a hd ready tv...jus d colouring a bit only...lik can adjust by my own

sos?

That is probably because the shops did not push the display units to those LCDs' maximum capacity. Example, using blu-ray player playing a blu ray movie. Then, you will notice the difference.

This post has been edited by low98944: Sep 28 2009, 06:29 PM

They mainly uses 720p source played via HDD media boxes with multiplexer out to several panels. Thus the impression of same image quality on 1280x720 (HD ready) and 1920x1080 (Full HD) panels. How else will they sell those HD ready panels??

Camrycilver, trust me.... there are HUGE differences when you play bluray movies at full HD (1920x1080p) on full HD panels, versus your HD ready panels. The image will be more crisp with more details, while HD ready panels will squeeze those available details into a smaller screen (1280x720), where there will be lost details...

That's precisely why I asked if he bought one or planning to buy.

Camrycilver, since you mentioned your eyes can't see much difference, just enjoy your TV until a later date where you would think to upgrade. Maybe in a few years, OLED panels are affordable and you can do the jump.

You are lucky. Some even use DVDs ...

1 more thing.
i mainly using my LCD for Xbox360, is there any difference between FullHD and HD ready ?
now i comes to 3 choices.

- 42" Toshiba HDready RM 2750
- 40" Samsung FullHD RM 3449
- 42" Sharp FullHD RM 3999

which should i choose ? i mean which is more value
and should i pay a RM400 for extended warranty period ?

BTw, the fcukin salesman keep telling to get the Samsung, dunno what the card he playing ....
i had a bad experience on korean product experience in the past.

This post has been edited by KLX213: Sep 28 2009, 11:21 PM

I'm still on HD Ready because a lot of 'sources' are still 'HD ready quality' and Blu Rays are still kinda expensive (even if they're ordered from Amazon)... my collection is about less than 30pcs of BDs and I think I'm gonna try to take a break from buying till next year... or.. erm.. end of the year... maybe next month...

to a lot, if you truly want a true HD experience, you're gonna need to splurge on a True HD sound system as well...

I saw a shop showing off a Bravia 70X with Astro

Sales Commission card - heard Samsung have dem aggresive retail incentives to break the Japanese stronghold.

Of your three choices, I will pick the Aquos.

haha, i think thats the card too. after i turn to Aquos, he turned a face too
btw, will get the Aquos in another shop soon. thx

yo bro,1 more thing...does 'motionflow' has 2 do anything when watching a movie?or jus 4 sports action only...

It should be for anything that has fast motion.

Lone*Wolf is correct. Its to improve the images (aka reduce the shudder effect) when there are fast movements on the screen.

The most common way to see image shudder are in the scenes where the camera pans from side to side. If yr panel cant handle it, you will see "trails" like shadows of the images.... cant really describe it in words....

This will be more evident when you display HD or FUll HD movies...

So the faster the refresh rate, technically the better the images will be... so get the best your money can buy.

This post has been edited by Poadster: Sep 29 2009, 06:11 PM

Don't forget that 'Motionflow' might generate artifacts as well as blurring sometimes.

Isn't one of the main benefits of 'motion-flow' is to eliminate blurring?

Sorry, what I meant was blur edges around objects and stuff.

Sorry for confusion

is it just me or some of movenment on those motionflow screen sometime seen unnatural?

I got Full HD (1080p) up scaling DVD player. Planning to buy LCD soon.

Which LCD is suitable to play DVD movies on the player? Full HD or HD Ready panel?

Will the Full HD player can up scaling the DVD in the Full HD panel?

any LCD is suitable to play DVD movies.

Full HD player? You mean a Blu Ray player, right?

Buy FHD to future proof la.

Want to buy new, buy the best, so when bester one come out, you are not completely outdated

I know that.. its about player to deliver the pic to LCD. My player as stated, its HD-dvd player with full scaling 1080p (not only Blu-ray got the feature). So which LCD suitable? HD Ready is enough or Full HD tv will be better?

That what i mean...

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Added on October 11, 2009, 8:13 pmYes.. i agree with that. But for now i just need to know first. If the player can give the good picture enough on HD Ready tv, so go for the cheaper. If the player cannot give the good picture on HD Ready tv... only on Full HD tv can get it, so go for the future proof. Thats all i want to know... the fact. Not opinion.

Thanks

This post has been edited by Assd MXer: Oct 11 2009, 08:20 PM

You buy 720p now, 2160p launch tomorrow.

Menyesal giler kot

Yeap, if it's a few hundred ringgit more, buy to future proof it. You are going to use it for many many years.

Tukar tibi mcm tukar lampin

If the TV is suitable with the player, why need to menyesal? I just want to know, not to buy yet.

If buy the very advance LCD, but the player cant give the full scale... also no need. Terpaksa tukar player pulak. lagi menyesal beli player yang dah ada tapi tak guna. Nak kena pakai blu-ray, tak larat beli disc BD (mahal). Mampu setakat DVD. lagi menyesal tak guna sepenuhnya.

So for NOW... just try to get with what i got. I'm not a richman to kejar spec. I also dont like to kejar spec like buying a handphone.

I just like the middle range. For NOW a like the Samsung 40B650 Full HD. If i want to kejar spec, sure i will choose the LED tv.. also the big one.

I'm not like that, thats why i asking to know which LCD tv is suitable with my player. As i said, i agree with you all. But thank for the opinion. I just want a fact only to my question. Just give me the simple answer. Waiting so long to get answer.

This post has been edited by Assd MXer: Oct 12 2009, 08:49 AM

Ya... be an ass when u ask for help..... bravo...

go ask a shop salesman, u get facts there, we here dont sell LCD TVs, so we donno anything...

If that so.. no use la to talk about LCD TV here. lock this topic and lets go all to the shop.

I see you all talk about LCD TV, so i also want to know just like everyone. I ask a simple question but i get a wrong answer.. even a bad answer. What is my fault? If dont know just ignore it. Maybe if got any Otai here can answer me. I agree to all opinion but i still cant get the answer.

This forum used for sharing an information. But this is the respon i got?... very good.

This post has been edited by Assd MXer: Oct 12 2009, 11:28 AM

for your budget really tight and your dvd player already there so get hd ready enuf.........

most of sifu here prefer for FULL HD.....

budget is not the matter...

if my full 1080p HD-DVD player can full upscaling the DVD disc to 1080p on Full HD tv, so i will go for the future proof one like sifu/otai suggested.... as i said i agree with all opinion.

and if the player cannot upscaling the DVD disc so i will go for the cheaper one... get with what i've got only. Not to waste my money... thats all i want to know only.

This post has been edited by Assd MXer: Oct 12 2009, 02:05 PM

You can find your answers here http://hometheater.about.com/od/blurayandh...lurayhddvd2.htm

you are confusing him more..

If your player can't upscale the DVD to Full HD, your Full HD TV will do the upscaling.

This post has been edited by Reix: Oct 12 2009, 02:48 PM

Ooo like that aaa....

So any product which have a full HD upscaling feature can upscale the video source, right?

Somekind of answer, very helping. Thank you.

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Added on October 12, 2009, 3:20 pmI'm not confuse. Its helping me to get more details for answer.... than other respon that confused with my simple question.

Thank you.

This post has been edited by Assd MXer: Oct 12 2009, 03:20 PM

Blame it on marketing...FullHD, HD Ready, HDready1080p, 200hz, 600hz, HDMI, 1080p upscaling...etc..

Agreed...

1080p power HD

cant wait 4 1080p 3D tv

How much that gonna cost you bro?

ok la,ok la...c display ones at shops only la later in the near future...

p/s = im not rich