Nope. Sentra 1.6 (AT) had slightly better FC with 13km/L. Since 1.6 (AT) really feel underpower, going for 1.8 is good decision.

Sentra 1.8 DOHC average FC (50% City, 50% highway) around 12km/L. Comparable with Altis 1.8 DOHC but lose a bit to i-Vtec Civic 1.8 SOHC (12.5km/L).

This post has been edited by x_barrage: Nov 18 2009, 03:22 PM

I know it's a difficult decision to make since both are almost exactly the same car, the only differences between the two 200cc & 10bhp with some additional features in 1.8. I've never driven any 1.8 Sentra before, so I can't really tell how much difference it has in terms of power to the 1.6 version. I learned that 1.6 has about 118bhp while 1.8 has 128bhp. My 1.6 (AT) really feels under-power when a/c is on & when 4-5 adult passengers on board, unless if you drive alone or with 1-2 passengers..only then problem of under-power is not an issue.

As far as FC of both cars is concerned, I think I'm quite okay with my 1.6 & I'm sure 1.8's FC shouldn't be much of a problem to me, unless if it drinks petrol like a 2.5 V6 Naza RIA.

2.5cc vs 1.8cc? That's huge gap to compare.

Nissan’s rear brake disc you can get cheap as RM400 at half-cut. Also you still can get Auto flip side mirror for Fl1 & Fl2 (N16 2nd & 3rd generation) model at around RM100 price. If you want full set, there is ppl sell it at RM60 at Nismo forum. Just dig it.

For new N16 Sport (1.6L), TCM already include auto flip mirror, dashboard maple wood interior & black sporty color. Leather seat is optional for RM300. I personally don’t like leather seat thus go for tricot in hoping to change to Sporty Recaro seat, but later find regret since don’t have rear seat arm rest. How am I supposed to find Sentra Recaro rear seat? So go for leather seat if available.


This post has been edited by x_barrage: Nov 22 2009, 04:40 PM

Bros my GXE 1.8A 2002 is giving 280km on 37l of fuel.

Which translates to 7.5km / l, full city (subang, BU, ss2)

Can any bros comment on the possible issues? I sent to different ETCM service centers, so far not able to troubleshoot the real problem yet.

I'm pretty sure 7.5km / l is high even for 100% city drive.

really need sifu's help on this, thanks!

Your N16 is pre-FL (1st generation). Also first test VTC on N16, thus it's doesn't very efficient & most N16 GXE owner feel that way too. Even TCM was not dare to put VTC badge on Pre-FL. Not much you can do about it. For performance, you can try to adjust your Sentra Header to 4-2-1 with all the pipe change to same big like Frontier's pipe. So now when engine run over 4000RPM = [VTC ON] The VTC Open you will feel the car like got a Turbo Power make your car more powerful run!! The feel is better then Frontier Engine over 2000RPM Turbo On. Or probable it's only your feeling.

This post has been edited by x_barrage: Nov 22 2009, 04:43 PM

Are you implying that RM 7.5km/l is the best this QG18DE can give?
I think even if it's Pre-FL and whatnot, 7.5km/l is still abit on the high side, don't u think? My family's 15 year ol Merc W124 2,399 cc gets around the same mileage (7km to the liter)!

And AFAIK the 1.8 engines on preFL and FL1 are essentially the same QG18de, how much more fuel-efficient can it be after the FL?

pls enlighten. Thanks!

Who knows what Nissan put on their early QG batch production. Nissan Sunny 130Y around 8km/L considered best at it's time. Early QG18DE should higher than 8km/L. As I said before, many Pre-FL Sentra owner complain about the same things especially VTC functionality inside which is different from QG16DE since QG18DE using N-CVT which is already used by Nissan since 1987. If N-CVT is the cause, we can't do nothing except put a new version ECU's controlled VTC same as FL1 & FL2 or new VTC engine. One of my Pre-FL friends already put SR16VE (VVL) to replace QG16DE (VTC) inside. The problem usually happens on Pre-FL model since it is rojak with Nissan Pulsar.

Or you can try send your car to mechanic to tuning Cam head inside the engine matching with fuel save you desire, but it will affect your car acceleration. Since all Sentra are DOHC, tuning should be no problem for most experienced workshop. If you send to TCM they only tuning using computerize. Try going for manual tuning for better result, after all your car warranty already ended after 3 years purchase, so nothing to lose.

This post has been edited by x_barrage: Nov 23 2009, 01:52 AM

A similar car Toyota GL KE70 could get at least 13km/L and you still consider 8km/L best at it's time? Come on.



Using 100% highway drive for your Sentra can you get 14.8km/L and using the figure to compared to a FC of non-100% highway drive of Vios - you win!!
I know where we are getting...




p/s: For all I know with my Vios, 100% highway FC I got 3.8km/L more than your Sentra (not the meager that you dream of 1.2km/L).

Does a Sentra 1.8L second facelift somewhere 2005 to 2006 worth it without much problem with VTC stuff?

Yes. FL1 model should already fully utilize VTC thus TCM already put VTC badge on all their Sentra's. Just remember, Many Altis owner also complain about their FC although it is not too bad for 1.8L. What FC can we really expect for 1.8L?

C'mon. We're not talking about Toyota vs Nissan this time don't we? It make feel really like on Fanboy defense force. We can talk all day long about this, but I won't reply again to you if it's not regarding Vios & Sentra. No more.

Lucky google always siding with me on this one. It not so hard typing Vios FC on Google search button.
Probably should add RON95 not V-Power more kilometer = more pricey. nah. No need to.
Also, as a proud VIOS FC owner, you should contribute your FC record here: http://www.oneshift.com/pdb/lcmuserfc.php?pid=1234 & I'm glad there is ppl with higher record than you, but don't forget to visit Sunny (Sentra in Singapore) section too.

This post has been edited by x_barrage: Nov 24 2009, 12:04 AM

Dude, i think you need to drive your car go to TC to check your engine, QG18DE fully city drive, or we call it extra urban FC should be around 9-11km/l, not like yours 7.5km/l.

Adding:
They also yet to see N16 1.6 (MT) smokes Civic 2.0 i-vtec...

I saw Civic but it just a spilt second bro, cant really convince me though.

But with your above statement, im proud of my N16!

At the moment there is also Toyota Harrier in front if you refer to video closely which is also speeding with Civic. I just came took them all. However I lose for pick-up at first, but after their car already reach max top speed my speed still increasing. My Sentra (MT) might have better top speed, but acceleration a bit loses at a moment. I don’t know if it is because I’m using RON95.

Actually the videos main purpose is to show my Speedometer problem to get advice from Nissan expertise. It is just coincidence there is also Civic 2.0 to test our speeding, so I just put it also.

This post has been edited by x_barrage: Nov 28 2009, 09:00 PM

wah 2.28- 2.30 the speed meter suddenly increase from 80km/h to 170km/h nitro ke?

As I said before, Sentra speedometer can only read 180kph, but the car probably can go more than 220kph. You can see after 180kph the speedometer show lower reading although the car’s go faster. Just watch tachometer still increasing although speedometers reduce from 180kph until 60kph. After I slow down the car (watch tachometer decrease) the speedometer try to catch up with actual speed since in can read for 180kph & below. That’s why it quickly goes for 180kph to measure exact 180kph. No nitrous applied here.

This post has been edited by x_barrage: Nov 28 2009, 11:50 PM

smoke? ROFL ... dude...with that speed..those cars just cruising ler... zzz
grow up

This post has been edited by digitheatre: Nov 29 2009, 12:11 AM

I think the speedomeer got problem lar, how can the speed decrease but the RPM still stay at 5000++ ? Should send it for checking.

im somewhat skeptical about the bolded line.. do u actually know how speedometer work? do u realise what were u saying about catch up and stuff?
probably ur speedometer were inaccurate dawg.. to test this, use gps instead

sweat.... u called this smokes? =.=''
if the Civic 2.0 tab 2 gear lower of the paddle shift, press a bit hard on the pedal, now u can smell the smokes