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post Apr 16 2010, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(samquah @ Apr 16 2010, 05:03 PM)
recently i left my low paying job... less than 3k and will join into hotel line...

introduced in by my friend whose father is the share holder there

i am to manage the hotel's health centre... offering massages to guest...

the offer is at rm9K.....going to accept it tommorow...
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sounds fishy it may be some sort illegal stuff
check properly before getting urself into trouble.
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post Apr 16 2010, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(minnymin @ Apr 16 2010, 07:00 PM)
i have applied for a management trainee position  blink.gif
so actually what does that mean??

and i want to know, how much should i write for my expected salary when i go for interview??
RM2k??
im a fresh grad, with few months of internship experience only...
amazed by the salaries posted by everyone here~~  notworthy.gif
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basically it's package of training program of course pay WITH $$$ lol, i think (normally 1 year period ) where you'll be allocated in various department to familiarize their company operation and end of the program they will decide either to employed you as permanent staff at respective department. Nowadays the company very smart using this strategy ... mostly they will recruit those fresh graduate for this purpose and NOT sure what's your background and course of your studies?? on salary imo i would say in range rm 2.0 - 2.5k ... i think no harm to work to gain some experience BUT do check the company profile first yeeah before you decide to join:thumbs:

cheers.
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post Apr 17 2010, 02:28 AM

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my course is food science and nutrition. can say my career path is quite narrow cuz hard to find job =/
mostly sales based jobs which i do not like but still go for interview. then when they saw my expected salary RM2k then they told me they were thinking to pay less than RM1.7k, so im just wondering is it i misjudge the market price or what... =x anyway not a job i like so i didnt accept it...
thanks for the info !! =)
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post Apr 17 2010, 07:12 PM

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Food science, can work with any food and drinks producer. From Kaya, milk powder, beer to sardin company, all need food science people. Don't have to be just sales.

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post Apr 17 2010, 09:18 PM

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post Apr 17 2010, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Apr 17 2010, 09:18 PM)
Job Title: Partner/CEO
Age: 39
Job Desciption: Everything, from planning company future to cleaning aircon filter.
Years spent in company: 10 years
Company: Local
Industry: Service Sector
Tenure: Permanent
Education: Degree
Employment Level : No way of getting further promotion
Salary : 45k
Working hrs: 8am - 10pm Monday to Saturday including Public holidays. On standby 10pm to 8am.
Benefit: No annual bonus, medical leave and annual leave. Only benefit is unpaid leave.
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omg 45k. urmm, the company actually is created by yours from scratch? may i knw what type of service? is it in range of accomodation ?
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Apr 17 2010, 09:33 PM)
omg 45k. urmm, the company actually is created by yours from scratch? may i knw what type of service? is it in range of accomodation ?
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Started by someone else. I just took over and expanded, and increase the clientele. The salary may look good, but I dont really get to see my kids during the long hours of work, and i dont get to go on holidays and I have to work even though I had high fever. Sometimes it's just not worth it..
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post Apr 18 2010, 09:12 AM

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You could retire early you know.
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post Apr 18 2010, 10:54 AM

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RM45K, after tax deduction should be about RM38K. Still a lot, oww!
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post Apr 18 2010, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Grimm @ Apr 18 2010, 09:12 AM)
You could retire early you know.
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Yeah, when the passive income can cover my current and future expenditure, then it's time to retire.. Actually retirement is not really a good idea, sitting at home and u actually feel useless after a while.


Added on April 18, 2010, 3:04 pm
QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 18 2010, 10:54 AM)
RM45K, after tax deduction should be about RM38K. Still a lot, oww!
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It's not bad a pay, but quite a few people i know are earning that much.. or more. Even the chrysathemum tea seller by the roadside near my office earns around 15k a month. He sells 500 glass a day, can go up to 800 a day if weather is hot. Each glass is Rm1. His cost - 2-3 bags of Chrysanthemum flowers, and 3-5kg of sugar. That works out to be around RM10-15 for cost for one whole day.

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post Apr 18 2010, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Apr 18 2010, 02:59 PM)
Yeah, when the passive income can cover my current and future expenditure, then it's time to retire.. Actually retirement is not really a good idea, sitting at home and u actually feel useless after a while.


Added on April 18, 2010, 3:04 pm

It's not bad a pay, but quite a few people i know are earning that much.. or more. Even the chrysathemum tea seller by the roadside near my office earns around 15k a month. He sells 500 glass a day, can go up to 800 a day if weather is hot. Each glass is Rm1. His cost - 2-3 bags of Chrysanthemum flowers, and 3-5kg of sugar. That works out to be around RM10-15 for cost for one whole day.
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True of not, chrysanthemum seller RM15K. If that's the case, all no need to study liao.. just open a stall selling chay kuey tiau can edy.
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post Apr 18 2010, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Apr 18 2010, 05:00 PM)
True of not, chrysanthemum seller RM15K. If that's the case, all no need to study liao.. just open a stall selling chay kuey tiau can edy.
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yawat.. u dun look down at hawker ppl leh.. their money press kao u oso got ar.. haha problem is u know how to char kuey teow or not 1st?
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post Apr 18 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Apr 18 2010, 05:00 PM)
True of not, chrysanthemum seller RM15K. If that's the case, all no need to study liao.. just open a stall selling chay kuey tiau can edy.
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His business was so good until all his children also sell chrysanthemum tea. By the way his stall was located in a popular tourist area. Yeah, if you can stand the heat of frying char koay teow, and inhale all the smoke.. why not? Of course need to have certain standard your koay teow. But fried koay teow has the lowest margin of all hawker food, and you need the most time amongst all hawker food to prepare a serving of fried koay teow, as compared to koay teow soup. Oh by the way, a reasonably good business putu-mayong chap earns around 4-5k a month.. and that I know from insurance claim manager who hired a private investigator to investigate the putu-mayong chap for inflated/false claim. The investigator just sat there the whole day, counting how many pieces he actually sold, without him knowing of course. In the end the claim went through. Cost was very cheap, only egg and flour etc.


Added on April 18, 2010, 5:21 pm
QUOTE(pelvin @ Apr 18 2010, 05:11 PM)
yawat.. u dun look down at hawker ppl leh.. their money press kao u oso got ar.. haha problem is u know how to char kuey teow or not 1st?
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Exactly, and 'income tax free' income!

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post Apr 18 2010, 07:22 PM

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Yup. Tax-free income is damn crazy. Us, salaried workers, we are taxed. Hawkers and other odd job workers do not get taxed.

There's this guy in Melbourne who got interviewed by some people. He was a very shaggy fellow, with an unshaven appearance and always acted like a beggar. He would wash people's car wind-screens for two dollars, and usually the owners of those cars will throw in some tips or buy him lunch or something.

One day, he washes wind-screens for 8 hours. He managed to do like 250 windscreens per day for 2 dollars or something, and took back like 200 bucks in tips. That's 700 dollars per day. Plus, he gets free meals. Say he works 300 days in a year. Thats 210k, tax free!!

The amounts i posted were fictional, i forgot the details, but i know he got something like an annual income of 200 ~ 220k tax free. AUSSIE DOLLARS K!

To get a 200k annual income AFTER tax in Australia, you have to earn something like 380k annually, because the tax rate here is around 47%.

What job, can earn u 380k per annum?

ps : This guy has a million dollar MANSION in the most posh residential areas in Victoria and drives a beautiful SLK to work, he parks his car a hundred metres away and then goes to his work place - in torn clothes, face all dirty dirty, shaggy and all, looking like a beggar!

pps : you can't wash your own car in victoria (thats what i heard), due to drought. You can wash your windscreens though! That's why he can do this for a living - a pretty neat one at that!

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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Apr 18 2010, 02:59 PM)
It's not bad a pay, but quite a few people i know are earning that much.. or more. Even the chrysathemum tea seller by the roadside near my office earns around 15k a month. He sells 500 glass a day, can go up to 800 a day if weather is hot. Each glass is Rm1. His cost - 2-3 bags of Chrysanthemum flowers, and 3-5kg of sugar. That works out to be around RM10-15 for cost for one whole day.
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F&B industry can earn a lot. Need to have lubang with all the wet market people. There is this noodle shop nearby my place that sell all kinds of kon low and soup (laksa, loh mee, kuey teow soup, mee hoon kueh and etc.). Their daily profit margin about RM2K - RM3K. People coming in and out, tahpao 6 - 10 packets at a time. Some customers even take away another after eating there. lol

His wife, a helper and 2 maids. 5 people, sometimes his 2 daughter are there to help out.

The boss drives a new Camry. I know he can afford a 5Series but low profile.

The reason why their food is so laku is beecause of the generous portion given. A big bowl of laksa (RM4) eat until you burp non stop. And if you're one of their regular customers, will get special portion also. rolleyes.gif I go there at least 3 times per week. drool.gif


QUOTE(Jurlique @ Apr 18 2010, 05:00 PM)
True of not, chrysanthemum seller RM15K. If that's the case, all no need to study liao.. just open a stall selling chay kuey tiau can edy.
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You can adapt to kopitiam environment or not?

QUOTE(Grimm @ Apr 18 2010, 07:22 PM)
Yup. Tax-free income is damn crazy. Us, salaried workers, we are taxed. Hawkers and other odd job workers do not get taxed.

There's this guy in Melbourne who got interviewed by some people. He was a very shaggy fellow, with an unshaven appearance and always acted like a beggar. He would wash people's car wind-screens for two dollars, and usually the owners of those cars will throw in some tips or buy him lunch or something.

One day, he washes wind-screens for 8 hours. He managed to do like 250 windscreens per day for 2 dollars or something, and took back like 200 bucks in tips. That's 700 dollars per day. Plus, he gets free meals. Say he works 300 days in a year. Thats 210k, tax free!!

The amounts i posted were fictional, i forgot the details, but i know he got something like an annual income of 200 ~ 220k tax free. AUSSIE DOLLARS K!

To get a 200k annual income AFTER tax in Australia, you have to earn something like 380k annually, because the tax rate here is around 47%.

What job, can earn u 380k per annum?

ps : This guy has a million dollar MANSION in the most posh residential areas in Victoria and drives a beautiful SLK to work, he parks his car a hundred metres away and then goes to his work place - in torn clothes, face all dirty dirty, shaggy and all, looking like a beggar!

pps : you can't wash your own car in victoria (thats what i heard), due to drought. You can wash your windscreens though! That's why he can do this for a living - a pretty neat one at that!
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That's why, for self employed people when comes to income tax, they can cheat lor. They earn RM30K per month, but income tax put RM10K per month. Who knows? Only them!

But there was this true incident happened to one poor char kuey teow unker, been selling for the past 30 years. He never once pay tax and one of the LHDN investigator went to the site to conduct a spot check. How he check? He told the boss, I need all the egg shells to do some medicine, and is willing to pay some money for it. So without suspecting any, the boss happily agreed and keep egg shells from that day onwards. After a week he got busted! The same guy came over handed him the letter to go on court, pay the income tax for the past 30 years.

He got no choice but to sell of his house (half) to pay the fine and taxes. Poor unker!
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wash 250 windscreen per day. 8 hours mean 31 per hours = 2 minutes per windscreen.

That seems like a non stop job for 8 hours a day. I bet he deserve that pay.


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QUOTE(jackylow_86 @ Apr 10 2010, 01:46 PM)
location: damansara kim
bachelor of accounting---> restaurant line
experience= 0 (fresh grad)
Starting pay RM2k
probation period = 6 months (depend on ur performance, if ok will be confirm early, mine 3 months)
bonus= 2 or 3 months
current pay = RM2.2k

this consider good ???
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post Apr 19 2010, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Grimm @ Apr 18 2010, 07:22 PM)
Yup. Tax-free income is damn crazy. Us, salaried workers, we are taxed. Hawkers and other odd job workers do not get taxed.

There's this guy in Melbourne who got interviewed by some people. He was a very shaggy fellow, with an unshaven appearance and always acted like a beggar. He would wash people's car wind-screens for two dollars, and usually the owners of those cars will throw in some tips or buy him lunch or something.

One day, he washes wind-screens for 8 hours. He managed to do like 250 windscreens per day for 2 dollars or something, and took back like 200 bucks in tips. That's 700 dollars per day. Plus, he gets free meals. Say he works 300 days in a year. Thats 210k, tax free!!

The amounts i posted were fictional, i forgot the details, but i know he got something like an annual income of 200 ~ 220k tax free. AUSSIE DOLLARS K!

To get a 200k annual income AFTER tax in Australia, you have to earn something like 380k annually, because the tax rate here is around 47%.

What job, can earn u 380k per annum?

ps : This guy has a million dollar MANSION in the most posh residential areas in Victoria and drives a beautiful SLK to work, he parks his car a hundred metres away and then goes to his work place - in torn clothes, face all dirty dirty, shaggy and all, looking like a beggar!

pps : you can't wash your own car in victoria (thats what i heard), due to drought. You can wash your windscreens though! That's why he can do this for a living - a pretty neat one at that!
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You mean the wind screen cleaner at the traffic light junction? I remember seeing them during student days weaving around stopped cars at the junction. Usually they didnt ask for cash, only tips. Pretty dangerous job they were doing. No wonder there were so many of them since they were top 1% earner in Australia!
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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Apr 19 2010, 05:23 PM)
You mean the wind screen cleaner at the traffic light junction? I remember seeing them during student days weaving around stopped cars at the junction. Usually they didnt ask for cash, only tips. Pretty dangerous job they were doing. No wonder there were so many of them since they were top 1% earner in Australia!
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Ur monthly salary isn't too shabby..here's mine..

Job Title : Trader
Job Desciption : Trader
Years spent in field : 7 years
Company : Self owned
Industry : Finance
Employment Level : Self employed
Salary : USD41,000 to USD 85,000 (RM127,000 to RM263,000) per MONTH
Education level : Degree
Benefits : Work from anywhere
Working hrs: Depends, sometimes no need to work..LOL
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QUOTE(jonathan_wong @ Apr 19 2010, 07:29 PM)
Ur monthly salary isn't too shabby..here's mine..

Job Title : Trader
Job Desciption : Trader
Years spent in field : 7 years
Company : Self owned
Industry : Finance
Employment Level : Self employed
Salary : USD41,000 to USD 85,000 (RM127,000 to RM263,000) per MONTH
Education level : Degree
Benefits : Work from anywhere
Working hrs: Depends, sometimes no need to work..LOL
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Wow... a millionaire spotted...

The richest man on lowyat.net perhaps notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

hope you spend your money wisely... thumbup.gif

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