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post Sep 22 2009, 06:08 PM, updated 17y ago

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hi..i havent been buying any property for a year and still quite new to this forum. Hope to hear some feedbacks....I see that the price for klcc has gone up a bit but still thinking of getting an unit there. wondering if marc is better or hamshire residence. I prefer the layout of hamshire to marc, as theres is more space in hamshire , not so cramp looking. However I definately prefer the location of Marc.

is the Price of marc now around 1000 psft and hamshire around 900 psft? is it possible to get a lower price? which do you think is a better deal between the 2 condo? nod.gif


Added on September 22, 2009, 6:14 pmhope to get some help here as I am really not that good in analysing things. flex.gif

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QUOTE(rachel23 @ Sep 22 2009, 06:08 PM)
hi..i havent been buying any property for a year and still quite new to this forum. Hope to hear some feedbacks....I see that the price for klcc has gone up a bit but still thinking of getting an unit there. wondering if marc is better or hamshire residence. I prefer the layout of hamshire to marc, as theres is more space in hamshire , not so cramp looking. However I definately prefer the location of Marc.

is the Price of marc now around 1000 psft and hamshire  around 900 psft? is it possible to get a lower price? which do you think is a better deal between the 2 condo? nod.gif


Added on September 22, 2009, 6:14 pmhope to get some help here as I am really not that good in analysing things.  flex.gif
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Which Hamphire were you referring to? There are quite a number of new condominiums around Persiaran Hamphire. Hamphire Place, Hamphire Residence, 2Hamphire or Hampshire Park?

In terms of location, Marc definitely wins over Hampshire. Marc is within a very short walking distance to Petronas Twin Towers. But most condominiums in Hampshire have better finishes compared to Marc. Because of lots of supply, you can see a high vacancy rate in Hampshire area. I think the prices now are 900-1000 psf for Marc and 750-850psf for Hampshire.
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QUOTE(winner @ Sep 22 2009, 06:27 PM)
In terms of location, Marc definitely wins over Hampshire. Marc is within a very short walking distance to Petronas Twin Towers. But most condominiums in Hampshire have better finishes compared to Marc. Because of lots of supply, you can see a high vacancy rate in Hampshire area. I think the prices now are 900-1000 psf for Marc and 750-850psf for Hampshire.
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Personally Hampshire's loc better. Its still walkable to ammenities but does not have the NOISE problems that currently haunts Marc's tenants smile.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ Sep 22 2009, 06:35 PM)
Personally Hampshire's loc better. Its still walkable to ammenities but does not have the NOISE problems that currently haunts Marc's tenants  smile.gif
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Expatriates in my organisation prefer Marc because of smaller units and near amenities. You may find some cheap units in Hampshire, but rental is poor. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 23 2009, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(winner @ Sep 22 2009, 07:08 PM)
Expatriates in my organisation prefer Marc because of smaller units and near amenities. You may find some cheap units in Hampshire, but rental is poor. biggrin.gif
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No negative feedbacks from your work mates about the heavy bass from the nearby drinking holes ???
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QUOTE(winner @ Sep 22 2009, 07:08 PM)
Expatriates in my organisation prefer Marc because of smaller units and near amenities. You may find some cheap units in Hampshire, but rental is poor. biggrin.gif
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HR rental is more expensive or Marc?
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post Sep 23 2009, 08:18 AM

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thanxx for the feedbacks. Im refering to Hamshire Residencehe layout and parking lots are not so cramp compared to 2 Hamshire. Just got some reply from agents and the price for HR are now RM870 persft onwards for the lower floor. Has gone up a bit within the last few months. Smallest units are 753 sft.
Oh thanx for informing about the vacancy rate though. Its a bit worrying. For the price of about RM660K, it seems can rent out for RM3500 for the studio unit Fully furnish. how much can rental fetch in Marc? But true, not many people stay.

I can understand if most expatriates prefer the location of Marc as its nearer to KLCC and Pavillion. Some agents said that the areas that will be 'lively' now will be those nearer towards pavillion. I think its far to walk to KLCC from Hamshire but there are lots of shops nearby hamshire. Also, the price on the other side (Nikko and KLCC side tend to go up higher than those on the opposite side of the road(hamshire, meritz etc). AM i correct , just from what I heard.

I like the location of Marc but wonder if anyone complains about the layout at the lif lobby of each floor, theres no air well and it looks like a walking into a cold hotel. I dont know, I really like the location but i think nobody can hear if anyone scream for help there. What about Glomac Tower beside Marc, are the service residence up for registration or has been sold? Anyone knows how much are they selling it for?

I also saw Fairlane residence, they have 500 sft unit selling for 500K. Is it easier to rent out there?

If KLCC properties hard to rent out, should I just buy 2 condos in PJ instead ? but if price go up in KLCC area, then I will be frust ..how errr rclxub.gif doh.gif


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QUOTE(rachel23 @ Sep 23 2009, 08:18 AM)
thanxx for the feedbacks. Im refering to Hamshire Residencehe layout and parking lots are not so cramp compared to 2 Hamshire. Just got some reply from agents and the price for HR are now RM870 persft onwards for the lower floor. Has gone up a bit within the last few months. Smallest units are 753 sft.
Oh thanx for informing about the vacancy rate though. Its a bit worrying. For the price of about RM660K, it seems can rent out for RM3500 for the studio unit Fully furnish. how much can rental fetch in Marc? But true, not many people stay.

I can understand if most expatriates prefer the location of Marc as its nearer to KLCC and Pavillion. Some agents said that the areas that will be 'lively' now will be those nearer towards pavillion. I think its far to walk to KLCC from Hamshire but there are lots of shops nearby hamshire. Also, the price on the other side (Nikko and KLCC side tend to go up higher than those on the opposite side of the road(hamshire, meritz etc). AM i correct , just from what I heard.

I like the location of Marc but wonder if anyone complains about the layout at the lif lobby of each floor, theres no air well and it looks like a walking into a cold hotel. I dont know, I really like the location but i think nobody can hear if anyone scream for help there. What about Glomac Tower beside Marc, are the service residence up for registration or has been sold? Anyone knows how much are they selling it for?

I also saw Fairlane residence, they have 500 sft unit selling for 500K. Is it easier to rent out there?

If KLCC properties hard to rent out, should I just buy 2 condos in PJ instead ? but if price go up in KLCC area, then I will be frust ..how errr rclxub.gif  doh.gif
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actually Rachel, mind sharing with us your investment plan?
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post Sep 23 2009, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Sep 23 2009, 12:41 PM)
actually Rachel, mind sharing with us your investment plan?
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Actually, the more I survey and valuate, the more confuse and stress up I become. So many choices, but seems like all the prices has gone up. Ive compared some areas in Bdr Puteri, Bdr Kinrara, Desa Park City, KLCC area, Mont Kiara , Hartamas and Pj area and all have increased since the past one year.

I bought 2 condos in 2007 and a house in 2008. I rented out one. The house has gone up a bit so I might just leave it a few more months before selling it off. Last year I surveyed Marc residence, Stonor and 2 Hamsphire and was about to buy Marc at RM1050 per sft, but held back coz wast too sure about the layout and the density (I thought 600 units was a bit crowded) . Anyway, after that, the share market kind of collapsed and everyone were waiting for the share market and property market to collapse further before making any purchase..and so I waited and went overseas for sometime..and when I came back...here I am....found that the price has all gone back up due to cement and raw material price increase (from what I heard) . KLCC and Mont Kiara area seem to be hardest hit and bouncing back...but other areas and landed property didnt seem to go down much at all. In fact all the new launch are still quite high.

A few which I think I might have missed out and could have bought when it was lower was Changkat View, Waldorf, Ken 2 etc.

I think I want to be able to retire early and just sit back collecting rental...( I know it sounds a bit immature and risky to just jump in ...thats why Im getting so confuse trying to figure out which property to buy now).

For long term , I am looking for rental yield condo. I should be able to cover for months or so without occupancy.

At the same time, Im also looking for capital gain ..so wondering which landed property or condo launch is worth buying now.

Then at the same time...since Im selling off my current house...Im also looking for another house that still has potential for price increase to buy and stay first.

My head feels very pain after all these thinking and thinking. gosh rclxub.gif icon_question.gif

oh and I also missed out on shoplots...one was selling for rm900k in shah alam just last year and now its 1.4m. I went to search a few areas...but its all high now. Bandar puteri are selling at RM2.85 but renting out only 12k. then the one beside giant is 1.4 but its below the road ' bridge'....seems not good and only not so nice units left. Some guy analysed and said its not good 'feng shui' there, I dont know. I mean before this, I never believe in Feng shui,...but then this guy has been analysing areas and situation for years...and all his sayings so far has been very acurate. So I thought if I like a place, then usually I get him to confirm the place if its good feng shui! hehehe. shocking.gif biggrin.gif



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post Sep 23 2009, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(rachel23 @ Sep 23 2009, 06:23 PM)
Actually, the more I survey and valuate, the more confuse and stress up I become. So many choices, but seems like all the prices has gone up. Ive compared some areas in Bdr Puteri, Bdr Kinrara, Desa Park City, KLCC area, Mont Kiara , Hartamas and Pj area and all have increased since the past one year.

I bought 2 condos in 2007 and a house in 2008. I rented out one. The house has gone up a bit so I might just leave it a few more months before selling it off. Last year I surveyed Marc residence, Stonor and 2 Hamsphire and was about to buy Marc at RM1050 per sft, but held back coz wast too sure about the layout and the density (I thought 600 units was a bit crowded) . Anyway, after that, the share market kind of collapsed and everyone were waiting for the share market and property market to collapse further before making any purchase..and so I waited and went overseas for sometime..and when I came back...here I am....found that the price has all gone back up due to cement and raw material price increase (from what I heard) . KLCC and Mont Kiara area seem to be hardest hit and bouncing back...but other areas and landed property didnt seem to go down much at all. In fact all the new launch are still quite high.

A few which I think I might have missed out and could have bought when it was lower was Changkat View, Waldorf, Ken 2 etc.

I think I want to be able to retire early and just sit back collecting rental...( I know it sounds a bit immature and risky to just jump in ...thats why Im getting so confuse trying to figure out which property to buy now).

For long term , I am looking for rental yield condo.  I should be able to cover for months or so without occupancy.

At the same time, Im also looking for capital gain ..so wondering which landed property or condo launch is worth buying now.

Then at the same time...since Im selling off my current house...Im also looking for another house that still has potential for price increase to buy and stay first.

My head feels very pain after all these thinking and thinking. gosh rclxub.gif  icon_question.gif

oh and I also missed out on shoplots...one was selling for rm900k in shah alam just last year and now its 1.4m. I went to search a few areas...but its all high now. Bandar puteri are selling at RM2.85 but renting out only 12k. then the one beside giant is 1.4 but its below the road ' bridge'....seems not good and only not so nice units left. Some guy analysed and said its not good 'feng shui' there, I dont know. I mean before this, I never believe in Feng shui,...but then this guy has been analysing areas and situation for years...and all his  sayings so far has been very acurate. So I thought if I like a place, then usually I get him to confirm the place if its good feng shui! hehehe.  shocking.gif  biggrin.gif
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post Sep 23 2009, 06:52 PM

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oh oh and I dont quite trust my own judgement, so will be great to have feedbacks. Im not even sure which is a better investment , buying 2 condos that are between 250 - 330k in PJ or buying one thats around 700k - 850K in KL?

Then for own stay and investment, is it better to get a RM470 old house in ss2/ taman megah/ sea park OR a new RM550 - RM600k house in puchong? sweat.gif icon_rolleyes.gif









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wOw, by looking at the investment amount you are venturing, you should have experience real estate agents working for you... advising what's the best options available...
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QUOTE(rachel23 @ Sep 23 2009, 06:23 PM)
For long term , I am looking for rental yield condo.  I should be able to cover for months or so without occupancy.

At the same time, Im also looking for capital gain ..so wondering which landed property or condo launch is worth buying now.

Then at the same time...since Im selling off my current house...Im also looking for another house that still has potential for price increase to buy and stay first.
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If you are looking for rental returns & capital gain, shoplots are the way to go...You can still get a double storey shoplot for 500k-800k around Klang Valley. You can always buy a double storey shoplot for RM500-650k & a PJ condo for 200-250k for your own stay.


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post Sep 23 2009, 09:21 PM

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[quote=Joink,Sep 23 2009, 08:47 PM]
If you are looking for rental returns & capital gain, shoplots are the way to go...You can still get a double storey shoplot for 500k-800k around Klang Valley. You can always buy a double storey shoplot for RM500-650k & a PJ condo for 200-250k for your own stay.
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yes la good idea. where to find shop lots for that price leh


Added on September 23, 2009, 9:24 pm[quote=kiddo,Sep 23 2009, 07:33 PM]
wOw, by looking at the investment amount you are venturing, you should have experience real estate agents working for you... advising what's the best options available...
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its small only actually..coz will be on loan 90 percent


Added on September 23, 2009, 9:26 pmhmmm..how come when I quote it didnt come out in a box up like all of yours did. strange

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You can do a search in iproperty. Still got some in Cheras, Sri Kembangan, Ampang, Putra Height, Kota Kemuning, etc...

But frankly, it is quite difficult to find one with growth potential. You will need to be very patient if you want a good one.

If you are going to buy from the secondary market & gunning for freehold, get one that is tenanted for 6%. If the area got growth potential, 4-5% will do. If you are going for leasehold, get one that is tenanted for 7-8%.

You can also consider retail lots or ground floor strata shoplots.
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ooo very wise. okie I shall survey for that and reveal my findings here. thumbup.gif flex.gif
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QUOTE(rachel23 @ Sep 23 2009, 06:23 PM)

I think I want to be able to retire early and just sit back collecting rental...( I know it sounds a bit immature and risky to just jump in ...thats why Im getting so confuse trying to figure out which property to buy now).

For long term , I am looking for rental yield condo.  I should be able to cover for months or so without occupancy.

At the same time, Im also looking for capital gain ..so wondering which landed property or condo launch is worth buying now.

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wah Rachel, from studio's to condo's, landed and shoplots oso all you want......u r 1 scary investor..... brows.gif

On a serious note, seems like you have a sizable budget range so I echo Joink and think u should waste no time n look at no other than commercials ( prime office lots, retail or shoplots ). It should cover your yields requirements and cap gains prospects.

but must have long term investment horizon lah.....
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post Sep 24 2009, 08:30 AM

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[quote=Pai,Sep 24 2009, 02:40 AM]
wah Rachel, from studio's to condo's, landed and shoplots oso all you want......u r 1 scary investor..... brows.gif

On a serious note, seems like you have a sizable budget range so I echo Joink and think u should waste no time n look at no other than commercials ( prime office lots, retail or shoplots ). It should cover your yields requirements and cap gains prospects.

but must have long term investment horizon lah.....
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how wise . true true. better look for a good shoplot. But so hard to find one thats still not pricey and have substantial growth potential. Any leads? I shall search around a bit. Thanxxxxxxx rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(rachel23 @ Sep 24 2009, 08:30 AM)
how wise . true true. better look for  a good shoplot. But so hard to find one thats still not pricey and have substantial growth potential. Any leads? I shall search around a bit. Thanxxxxxxx rclxm9.gif
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Best offer I've had to date was a completed lot in BPP going for 1.1mil, with rental around 6k. The rest all around 5% yield.

Joink will be able to give a better advise on this subject( i've yet to invest in one). Make sure u belanja him makan lah tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ Sep 24 2009, 11:01 AM)
Best offer I've had to date was a completed lot in BPP going for 1.1mil, with rental around 6k. The rest all around 5% yield.

Joink will be able to give a better advise on this subject( i've yet to invest in one). Make sure u belanja him makan lah  tongue.gif
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Is the shop at the area of the 22x75 3 storey, next to Puteri Mart?

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