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How to differentiate it? 
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 Oct 4 2009, 06:55 PM
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Oct 4 2009, 07:48 PM
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Why choose Propus cores?
Isnt is Deneb cores having the probabilities of unlocking the caches? -pWs- |
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Oct 4 2009, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Oct 4 2009, 07:48 PM) Why choose Propus cores? i oso would like to knowIsnt is Deneb cores having the probabilities of unlocking the caches? -pWs- |
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Oct 4 2009, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(antonio @ Oct 4 2009, 06:55 PM) I also think that 45nm running on 1.4 is quite high...juz buzz my mind after reading his reply just now.. i dont think for u it is high.Like on stock cooling when I test with prime on X2 1.35v peak at 63c and X4 1.35v peak more than 85c!!!!This is using my unlock X2 550 BE... for me yes since i using such a lousy cooler.. 1.35vcore prime x2 50++ edi.. and also i swear i never prime my rig more then 1.4.. max i ever prime for 1 hr is 1.392v... depends on how 'extreme' the person is  |
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Oct 4 2009, 07:52 PM
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Propus with Deneb Core = Abilities to unlock L3 Caches
Propus with "real Core" = No Abilities to unlock L3 Caches,Lower TDP..etc Well..i will try get with real one ~.~ |
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Oct 4 2009, 08:27 PM
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Allrite, explaination on why 1.4 is quite high...
pls check for core temp/realtemp or watever can show core temp. u may found why i said is quite high. for this baby i can check thru bios, running idle is 38... and if my estimation correct, 1.4v in windows won't be exceed 50 base on what mobo read. the real different is from core temp. by slightly increasing voltage, u may found the core temp when full load will reached TJMax(the reading depend on what die you own) easily. while by using other than air cooling it is easily to lower the idle temp for each core near 35 and it will never reach TJMax so easy. QUOTE(antonio @ Oct 4 2009, 06:01 PM) I 'm on 1.5875v and more than 1.65v....and thats on air  QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Oct 4 2009, 06:06 PM) pawnage by taikor.. westley.. 1.4 is just low voltage in here  QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Oct 4 2009, 06:14 PM) hehehe.. right2.. unless u using low for me is 1.0 edited.... found the crappyness after read antonio post below QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Oct 4 2009, 07:52 PM) i dont think for u it is high. for me yes since i using such a lousy cooler.. 1.35vcore prime x2 50++ edi.. and also i swear i never prime my rig more then 1.4.. max i ever prime for 1 hr is 1.392v... depends on how 'extreme' the person is |
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Oct 4 2009, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(Westley @ Oct 4 2009, 08:27 PM) Allrite, explaination on why 1.4 is quite high... the problem is, people in this thread, don't care about those monitoring software.. that's why i said 1.4 is too low when u get involved here pls check for core temp/realtemp or watever can show core temp. u may found why i said is quite high. for this baby i can check thru bios, running idle is 38... and if my estimation correct, 1.4v in windows won't be exceed 50 base on what mobo read. the real different is from core temp. by slightly increasing voltage, u may found the core temp when full load will reached TJMax(the reading depend on what die you own) easily. while by using other than air cooling it is easily to lower the idle temp for each core near 35 and it will never reach TJMax so easy. try to understand first what is mean by us.  |
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Oct 5 2009, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Oct 4 2009, 11:55 PM) the problem is, people in this thread, don't care about those monitoring software.. that's why i said 1.4 is too low when u get involved here owh.. these words.. i been hit by them from uncle digs..and its bleeding till now..try to understand first what is mean by us. @Westley. depends on ur cooler to determine 1.4v is low or high.. on stock cooler sure high but on TRUE or even CCF i belive that is quite a low figure... (and im talking about air).. if increase vcore i concern more about my mobo and my bills rather then my proc... so...try more dude... make it the max so that ppl here get poisoned and buy them instead..  just tu ask, propus die or deneb? i wud love to see propus more... |
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Oct 5 2009, 12:15 AM
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Tried unlock L3 Cache?
Try unlock 1st.Maybe i would assume high VCore above 1.47/1.5V..Depends on processor. |
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Oct 5 2009, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 5 2009, 12:15 AM) Tried unlock L3 Cache? Hehehe...The way I determine high is by looking at the change of color in the vcore options value...If red than it means 'high', if not I will assume that it is still acceptable... Try unlock 1st.Maybe i would assume high VCore above 1.47/1.5V..Depends on processor.  By the way, I was trying to upload this; This post has been edited by antonio: Oct 5 2009, 12:47 AM |
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Oct 5 2009, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(antonio @ Oct 5 2009, 01:41 AM) Hehehe...The way I determine high is by looking at the change of color in the vcore options value...If red than it means 'high', if not I will assume that it is still acceptable... Wahhh!!! i saw GD 70! nyum nyum!! By the way, I was trying to upload this;  |
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Oct 5 2009, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Oct 5 2009, 12:04 AM) owh.. these words.. i been hit by them from uncle digs..and its bleeding till now.. Air cooling is still air cooling, haha.@Westley. depends on ur cooler to determine 1.4v is low or high.. on stock cooler sure high but on TRUE or even CCF i belive that is quite a low figure... (and im talking about air).. if increase vcore i concern more about my mobo and my bills rather then my proc... so...try more dude... make it the max so that ppl here get poisoned and buy them instead.. just tu ask, propus die or deneb? i wud love to see propus more... Tried few air cooling before. Even Gemini S..., but always having this and that issue, either blocking ram/other cooling etc... But WC is not bad, if install it in a case, i will use my d-tek block. crosshair II didn't give option to unlock core/cache, haha core: CADAC AD 0931EPCW Quite a new core. QUOTE(antonio @ Oct 5 2009, 12:41 AM) Hehehe...The way I determine high is by looking at the change of color in the vcore options value...If red than it means 'high', if not I will assume that it is still acceptable... haha, my board showing me 1.4v is above normal. the 2nd LED lighted up. prime it, see what is d max temp that reach. This post has been edited by Westley: Oct 5 2009, 07:34 AM |
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Oct 5 2009, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE(Westley @ Oct 5 2009, 07:19 AM) Air cooling is still air cooling, haha. Owhhhh that means u have the real Propus eh?Tried few air cooling before. Even Gemini S..., but always having this and that issue, either blocking ram/other cooling etc... But WC is not bad, if install it in a case, i will use my d-tek block. crosshair II didn't give option to unlock core/cache, haha core: CADAC AD 0931EPCW Quite a new core. haha, my board showing me 1.4v is above normal. the 2nd LED lighted up. prime it, see what is d max temp that reach. I bet u TS is  right now |
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Oct 5 2009, 10:05 AM
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yup
 juz install vista 64 
this is juz for references... 2 of the prime failed after 3 minutes still need to test more on it... |
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Oct 5 2009, 10:50 AM
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Simple OC by me due to x tahan with DDR3 market price!
haishh!!! 
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Oct 5 2009, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Westley @ Oct 5 2009, 10:05 AM) yup did i saw 8gb of ram there? juz install vista 64
this is juz for references... 2 of the prime failed after 3 minutes still need to test more on it... i suspect ur ram speed bring the orthos to fail condition.. |
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Oct 5 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(verdict @ Oct 5 2009, 10:50 AM) Simple OC by me due to x tahan with DDR3 market price! DDR3 la bro. haishh!!! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « -pWs- |
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Oct 5 2009, 11:14 AM
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Why i would drool on teh Athlon II X4?I still can tahan right now
 Actually,the $$ is ready but im grabbing it with new comp(for meh sister). |
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Oct 5 2009, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Oct 5 2009, 12:03 PM) DDR3 la bro. Woahh!!! DDR3 Team Elite 2Gb is rm 178! -pWs- will drop by to lowyat this evening! see how ler! ekekeke! |
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Oct 5 2009, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(verdict @ Oct 5 2009, 11:39 AM) Woahh!!! DDR3 Team Elite 2Gb is rm 178! sir antonio kan ade cheap + very2 gud d9 ram??? pm him for details lah... will drop by to lowyat this evening! see how ler! ekekeke! btw guys, Westlely is no newbie, he is an oc'er of my generation, not new but not so old too... he used to guide me alot during nf2 era... |
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