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post Sep 22 2009, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Sep 22 2009, 04:35 PM)
Guys, apparently i'm having bluetooth problem since 3.0.1 for my 3gs. now i have upgraded to 3.1 and the problem still persists.

this is wat shown on my screen for bluetooth section:

Bluetooth: ON

Devices:
Searching...
Now Discoverable

Any idea?
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So in other words, it can't detect any nearby Bluetooth devices no matter how long it tries to discover? If there's no nearby Bluetooth devices, then yes you'll see that screen/wordings. My 3GS works fine on both 3.0.1 and 3.1. Do you have any issues with WIFI signal strength? Reason is because they should share the same patch antenna. Both works on the 2.4GHz spectrum. If there's a antenna positioning problem within the device, both should be affected.

Have you done a network setting reset? Maybe that will help. All else fail, send it in.
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post Sep 23 2009, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Sep 22 2009, 05:30 PM)
hmm i always tot iphone has built-in bluetooth device in it, thats y i was expecting it to work right away once i turned it on. I din know i needed to b around a bluetooth device for it to work.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Sep 22 2009, 06:36 PM)
erm any bluetooth device needs to be paired first before you can use it.
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Yeah, thats true. To use 'something' via Bluetooth, you need to pair the 'Bluetooth equipped iPhone' with a 'Bluetooth equipped something' to work. The fact that when you turned it on and you see 'searching' and 'discoverable' means it is working alright. Just that it has not found 'something' because there are presumably no bluetooth compliant devices nearby.

To understand more about bluetooth usage and operations, do a search or read it at Wiki.
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post Sep 25 2009, 10:20 PM

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If you're a new convert into Maxis, they provide you a limited number of SMS (in hundreds or thousands). You could use that to transfer all your sms over to the new iPhone. You can put a friend's SIM card into the iPhone no problem because iPhone save messages into phone memory. When you're done, just switch SIM. Then do a backup with iTunes.
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post Sep 27 2009, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(cubix @ Sep 27 2009, 12:27 AM)
can the 3gs phone now send/receive songs, movies and pictures to other phones like nokia or sony ericsson now?
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Impossible. If that day ever comes, remind me to buy Apple stocks. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 27 2009, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(~funeralofheart~ @ Sep 27 2009, 06:55 AM)
loh bro
same with my case!!
do not install the iPhone 3.1 update via iTunes. You will lose your unlock and it may be permanent!!
erkhhh
but its just can jailbreak at the moment using PwnTools (imac only)-mean u can usng ur 3gs/3g just for iTouch function only
coz,once upgrade to FW 3.1,da baseband oso change from 4.26.08 to 5.11.07...F.Y.I baseband 05.11.07  is not unlock able at the moment because Ultrasn0w is not supported by the latest baseband.
u cant downgrade d baseband at the moment (But u still can try downgrade it using Fuzzyband-depend on ur luck)
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If I am not mistaken, if you already have the iPhone OS v3.01 and already unlocked, you can opt to download the iPhone OS v3.1 software only update (without baseband firmware). Then you can selectively restore to that. Then you can still JB it.

But its a matter of time before they can find another hole. Judging by the time 3.1 is released and yet today still no news from devteams, guess its a little bit harder this time.
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QUOTE(Hawarizmi @ Sep 27 2009, 04:47 PM)
dear all, sorry to interrupt;
I'm not sure i'm asking in the right channel or not; but need some advise.

I'm just bought an iphone from maxis last week (no contract) and using a regular value plus plan (value plus 80, to be exact) w/o iData subcribed.

1) Does the same rate of 1kb/sen applied for me if I'm surfing the net on Iphone same as previous GPRS/EDGE/3G usage ? Just to confirm if they have different rate for accessing WAP portal (regular phone) and WWW pages (iPhone) ..

2) if I go for iData 250mb.. would it be sufficient for regular internet; facebook, flickr, YM, news, etc?

Thanks in forward
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So in other words, you have no data plans included over your voice plan right? If that is the case,

1. Yes, you're subject to the usual data/price rate. The Value Plus Plan has 'Pay As You Use' so you're paying the expensive rates. If I am not mistaken, surfing over the WAP Portal is free of charge until you go outside of that Portal. This is applicable to all phones operating within Maxis network.

2. In my case, I can't even use more than 100MB of data per month. I'm always logged into IM, FB and some light surfing, rarely Youtube. Guess 250MB is enough for myself. But I would recommend 500MB just in case.
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QUOTE(schizophreak @ Sep 27 2009, 10:03 PM)
I'm a new iphone 3GS user and abit confused with the issue of upgrading to OS 3.1 and losing the carrier unlock.

Quoting the dev team:

If you update to Apple’s new software using the normal iTunes process, you will lose your ultrasn0w unlock. In fact you may lose it permanently, because for most people the baseband firmware cannot be reverted to a previous version (unlike the main application CPU firmware).

My iphone is from maxis which is officially unlocked. So I think 'losing the unlock permanently' as quoted by the dev team does not affect my iphone?

It only affects those iphone that are initially carrier locked, and then unlocked by ultrasnow unlock.

Am I right?
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Yes, iPhone 3GS from Maxis need not worry anything about these changes because it is officially an unlocked unit. This is because of a newly updated baseband firmware. However, I am not sure if we can still JB. Probably wait for a permanent solution to be released.
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QUOTE(faizzaki @ Sep 30 2009, 12:11 AM)
Hello everyone,

My wife bought 1st generation iphone (2g) from UK . She was using it with O2 provider.
Back in malaysia, after jailbreak with pwnagetools and she used with celcom xpack prepaid sim. there were ridiculous charges, which upon inquiry was pinned down on WAP usage when she did not logged on to any internet browser whilst not on wifi. One day would go by with RM5 gone without even making any phonecalls or sms. After a while, she found out that accessing basic things like phone book was also charged rm0.70

I read a few articles. one said, if I turn off 3g it will automatically run edge, and that's why it would still be charged even after turning it off. 

Anyone else have same experience?  icon_question.gif
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Maybe one of your application installed in the phone is accessing the internet without your knowledge. Some free apps have advertisement tied in and these advertisement component pull data off the net. Also the email application could have been push enabled resulting it to check for new emails every few moments.

You can disable the email app from automatically checking for new emails by disabling an email account or by setting it to manual retrieval. You should also disable push notifications (if you have any) because it will pull data from the internet. Accessing the weather app will pull data from internet so you may want to restrict usage. The same goes for Google Maps and all apps that rely on data from remote places.

There's a more permanent solution. Check the stickies because there's a procedure to complete turn off remote data access. But I am not sure if it still applies for newer OS version. Turning 3G off is not sufficient as it will fall back to EDGE and I don't think the 1st generation iPhone is 3G capable anyway.

In the end, you will have a phone that is pretty much only a phone. The iPhone pulls data from the internet to present you information on the go. Thats what makes it an interesting device. But still you can enjoy the countless applications, etc. You can still use WIFI to download them or sync them through iTunes.
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QUOTE(rip_code @ Sep 30 2009, 09:46 PM)
Hi bro,

I think I found my own solution to my own problem. Previously I mention that I JB right I got my iPhone right.
Then I started to install SBSetting as well to disable EDGE/3G because I saw some of our forummer here got lotsa bill for data usage and I'm afraid I will be like that too.

Just now, I try to troubleshoot by enable both EDGE and 3G and surprisingly, no drop call. Disable 3G only also no drop call, but will drop if both disable.
You might wanna give a try. So the conclusion of this, maybe the voice layer needs either edge or 3g?
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I think most areas are now EDGE at least. GPRS or 2G GSM are far and between. If you move into an area where the base towers are at least EDGE or 3G, you will get disconnected if you disable both. Maybe this is the case?
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QUOTE(LYW @ Sep 30 2009, 07:04 PM)
I am using the iphone 3gs 32gb official unlocked by singtel with os3.01. i cant seem to get thru youtube. i am using wifi. each time i tap the youtube icon, it loads then it says unable to connect to youtube.why cannot ah? i cant seem to see videos on9. what do i need to do??? btw i did not jailbreak anything!
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First lets go through the basics:

1. When you have activated WIFI, are you connected to any WIFI access point/router?
2. If you are connected to any of them, how sure are you that the access point/router is connected to the internet?
3. If the WIFI access point/router belongs to you and you're sure that you have internet service, then are you able to surf the internet?
4. So the only problem is streaming videos on Youtube app? OK, then do you have other PCs connected to the same WIFI access point/router? Are those PC able to stream from Youtube? If the answer is no, then you may need to checkout your router firewall settings. If yes, then you have an issue with the iPhone OS's connectivity.

Guess you need to do a network setting reset? For your information, I always had problem with streaming Youtube over my home WIFI which is connected to Streamyx. I googled and found issues from iPhone OS's connectivity all the way to the WIFI chipset which is sucky. My youtube videos will always timeout or slow to a crawl. Watching from PC however is ok even though it is slow.

Then one fine day, I switched to Digi Broadband and is using the same router. No settings touched. And voila! I can stream at super fast speeds. ISP related or not? I don't know. But Digi Broadband works for me.

QUOTE(rip_code @ Sep 30 2009, 10:44 PM)
I think so. Because everywhere I tried, will get disconnected if I disable both EDGE and 3G.
So as for now, the connection is superb, either both on or just EDGE on.

I'm talking this if you're using Celcom by the way. Other forumer using Maxis while both settings off, seems OK.
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Probably Maxis has a different network than Celcom's. Maxis still has a lot of areas that are only 2G only. Thats the only thing I can think of.
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post Oct 1 2009, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(LYW @ Oct 1 2009, 06:19 PM)
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Okay. i dn really know about the wifi settings so i asked my friend who was using his n97 to check out the youtube webpage using the college's wifi. it turns out he cant go in that webpage either...

However, when i used my 3g network, i could access everything... so how now?? is the wifi the source of my problems?
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So what you're saying is that you're connected to your college's WIFI? The fact that your phone and your friend's phone cannot access Youtube suggests that it could have been 'blocked'. Are you able to access Youtube from a laptop that is connected to the same WIFI? If your laptop cannot access it, then your college could have banned Youtube. Simple as that.

The fact that your phone can access everything via 3G means there's nothing wrong with your phone. You can test this hypothesis further by connecting to another WIFI which you're sure is connected to the internet with full administrator access (meaning not blocked). If it works, then it should validate the hypothesis.
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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Oct 1 2009, 07:32 PM)
I've faced this prob in both my iPod touch and iPhone 3G cable as well but I don't really think this is covered under the apple care bcoz it's more like normal wear and tear so it's unlikely covered by the warranty. Anyway, the cable is still usable rite even it's torn so don't really bother about it. I don't think you can find original USB cable outside but you can buy those 3rd party cable outside, prob costs around Rm20 only.
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Yeah, I think those 3rd party compatible ones will do. Just get a good quality one. Of course if the price is near the original one, then it makes no difference.
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Oct 3 2009, 12:53 AM)
If u feel like upgrading, then by all means, do it. Not much of change thou, but feeling its better on 3.1 than 3.0. Surfing the net is now a breeze.
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Yeah, surfing is indeed a lot faster. However, at times the WIFI connection would not respond even though it is connected. At times it would drop off and then reconnect. Maybe it is my router. However there's a lot of such complaints over the Apple iPhone forum.
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Oct 4 2009, 04:31 AM)
seriously, i never have this problem.....
i was on wifi 24-7 at my hometown... ( well, i seldom go out... just stay at home and hang out with  my parents) and i never have such kind of problem....

as for my 3g connection.. well... i got frustrated since the 3g line is like chipsmore...... sometimes have.. sometimes dont...
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Actually I am suspecting it has something to do with my router because I don't have this problem when connecting to other WIFI. However, I don't use them long enough to see this a potential problem.

QUOTE(Edoras @ Oct 4 2009, 10:30 AM)
I tried downloading the file and tethering doesn't seem to work.
I am on official unlock and using Celcom line.
FW 3.1 - both USB and BT tethering doesn't seem to work.
In fact I have problem connecting my Mac to the iPhone 3GS. Although both iPhone and Mac can be paired.

Updated:

"No tethering on officially unlocked iPhone"

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?t...art=60&tstart=0

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1937

Does it mean, Apple only encourage tethering on Official Networks (like Maxis) only..?
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Technically Apple only encourage tethering with Maxis only because it is their official service provider in Malaysia. It is only exclusive to Maxis. I am not so sure but I think we can patch this up with ipcc file uploading. If you plan to use other service provider.
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QUOTE(Edoras @ Oct 4 2009, 02:55 PM)
Do you think downgrading back to 3.0.1 will solve the problem?
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We can't because Apple stopped signing iPhone OS v3.0.1 so we no longer can do a restore. However, I read about some guy who's trying to mirror Apple's signing server. Try google about it.

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