Only left with 25 as at todate. Cheers.

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Added on January 15, 2010, 7:53 pm

Then get crickets from aquatic or bird shops, they actually prefer crickets and roaches to mealworms. Cheers, Anyway, I feed them before I shipped out to you.

No worry, kuwy
Take good care of them pls, they ll give u babies real soon

Anw, imo screening a person solely base on their answer to ur question is kinda... Unreliable
Anyone smart enough could just google for information and copy and paste to u
Anyone can answer all the question u asked, just a click away from his/her mouse
But at least u put some effort to screen ur buyer

Though Liocheles Australasiae are often found in a group in the wild but they always end up with cannibalising if u kept communally in captive, i dunno why lol
It's a vice choice to separate them, how hot is ur room?
Imo the warmer, the better, as long as not too hot lol

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Added on April 12, 2010, 11:09 pmU might wanna read this article bout Liocheles, written by our proud local hobbyist who is very experienced with them
http://www.venomlist.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25639

30%????? What the hell, serious?
Did u measure it or just guessing?
My room is always hot also but humidity always remain at 70++ %

Part 1. understanding toxins

wikipeida give us what toxin is

A toxin (Greek: t??????, toxikon) is a poisonous substance produced by living cells or organisms[1][2]  (although humans are technically living organisms, man-made substances created by artificial processes usually aren't considered toxins by this definition).

For a toxic substance not produced by living organisms, "toxicant" is the more appropriate term, and "toxics" is an acceptable plural[citation needed].

why did i bring up toxins in here and not go directly to venom or poison since it is more related to scorpions?

simple

venom is a toxin same as poison.

the different is the place where it originally arrives. is it from animal,plants, or chemicals.

there are a variety of toxins but i'm just going to cover the normal toxins which are normally found in scorpions which are neurotoxins venom and only 1 species that has a hemotoxin venom which is Hemiscorpius lepturus.

to state all the available toxins in a scorpion venom would take a large amount of time and space hence this article is a condense version of what i can find on the internet and through the books and journals that i have read and reading.

what are neurotoxins?

wikipedia give us this definition

A neurotoxin is a toxin that acts specifically on nerve cells (neurons), usually by interacting with membrane proteins such as ion channels.

in short any type of venom or poison that attacks the nerve cells.

most scorpions have neurotoxins and so does snakes,some marine animals, spiders, and other family of animals.

the way that neurotoxin works is by attacking the protein membrane of the nerve cells either by disrupting the transmission and receiving of nerve impulses from the brain or causing the nerve cells to fire their own nerve impulse regardless of the brain own nerve impuls.

in the 1st scenario where the toxin blocks the tranmission and receiving of nerve impluses the most common effects are paralysis in which the envenomate victims loose control over their body and are paralyse yet are concious but unable to speak or move. death is usually cause by the paralyses of the lung and heart tissue.

in the 2nd scenario the toxin cause rapid nerve pulses to be transmitted by all the nerve cells and overloading the spinal chord and brain which usually leads to seizures and passing out. death is usually cause by brain damage but is rare unless the toxin is delivered in a large dose or have a high LD50 number.

for further reading of the way neurotoxins works please go to

how neurotoxins works (caution alot of weird words in there)

what is hemotoxins?

again wikipedia is my soure which gives us

Hemotoxins, haemotoxins or hematotoxins are toxins that destroy red blood cells (that is, cause hemolysis), disrupt blood  clotting, and/or cause organ degeneration and generalized tissue damage. The term hemotoxin  is to some degree a misnomer since toxins that damage the blood also damage other tissues. Injury from a hemotoxic agent is often very painful and can cause permanent damage. Loss of an affected limb is possible even with prompt treatment.

in simpler terms toxins that destroy cells. the toxins rapidly spreads using the blood stream as a medium as transport and as it travels it will actually destroy cells  which willl lead to severe bleeding and necrosis. death usually occours due to the plummeting of the victims blood preasure cause  by the bleeding when the cell structures ruptures which stresses the heart  which causes cardiac arrest or the toxin reaches the heart and destroys it.

some famous animals that have hematoxins are the viper family,spiders, and the one and only scorpion species which is the Hemiscorpius lepturus which is native to Iran.

if anybody is curios what is necrosis here is a picture of necrosis on a boy that have been bitten by a Fer de Lance(a snake with a nasty hemotoxic venom) and was not treated with antivenin but antibiotic for 2 weeks

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so end chapter 1 what is toxins. chapter 2. LD50, what is it and how do they get the numbers. please discuss the 1st chapter and any questions or suggestions are appreciated..

the crazy demon.

kuwy86 the picture u see of the really bad necrosis on the leg is cause by the bite form a snake called the Fer deLance (Bothrops lanceolatus). it belongs to the pit viper family.

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Added on April 14, 2010, 4:21 pmbtw ryo , the picture u showed is a case of the venom being injected intra-subcutaneously which means the venom never actually went into the muscle and it eats away at the skin layers.

my picture of necrosis is a classic example of intra-muscular venom delivery.

sharing here one common scorpion named the deathstalker - (Leiurus quinquestriatus),  its powerful venom compensates for the scorpion's weaker pincers and lack of brawny .

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

The deathstalker (Leiurus quinquestriatus), is a species of scorpion from the Buthidae family. It is also known the israeli desert scorpion and numerous other colloquial names, which generally originate from the commercial captive trade of the animal. To eliminate confusion, especially with potentially dangerous species, the scientific name is normally used to refer to them. The name Leiurus quinquestriatus roughly translates into English as "five-striped smooth-tail". Other species of the genus Leiurus are often referred to as "deathstalkers" as well.

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Arthropoda
Subphylum: Chelicerata
Class: Arachnida
Order: Scorpiones
Family: Buthidae
Genus: Leiurus
Species: L. quinquestriatus
Binomial name : Leiurus quinquestriatus

The deathstalker is regarded as a highly dangerous species because its venom is a powerful cocktail of neurotoxins, with a LD50 rating. While a sting from this scorpion is extremely painful, it normally would not kill an otherwise healthy adult human. However, young children, the elderly, or infirm (such as those with a heart condition or those who are allergic) would be at much greater risk. Any envenomation runs the risk of anaphylaxis, a potentially life-threatening allergic reaction to the venom. If a sting from Leiurus quinquestriatus does prove fatal, the cause of death is usually pulmonary edema. The German pharmaceutical company Twyford and the French pharmaceutical company Sanofi Pasteur both make an antivenom intended for the treatment of deathstalker envenomations.

Neurotoxins in L.quinquestriatus venom include the following:

Chlorotoxin
Charybdotoxin
Scyllatoxin
Agitoxins type 1, 2 and 3

a newly molted 5th instar  Leiurus quinquestriatus back a couple of week ago ..