okok. thanks.
::V6::Scorpion-Thread::V6::, Scorpion Conservation
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 May 24 2010, 06:54 PM
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May 24 2010, 08:07 PM
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does anyone here have more AFS for sale.. need some especially the males... Need for a large project of breeding programme...
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May 24 2010, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ May 24 2010, 06:16 PM) Why u choose intermediate to advanced scorpion lol Lol.. was aiming some intermediate sp.Stick to beginner one first la, u just started like, less than a month isnt it?   Alright. As i know, beginner sp. that i found selling online in Msia such as Heterometrus sp. Pandinus sp. Liocheles Australsiae Intermediate i would say : Mesobuthus Martensii Hottentotta hottentotta Centruroides exilicauda Buthus occitanus For advance , i would not touch these for the moment : Androctonus sp. Leiurus quinquestriatus What i was aiming (Non-forest) : Hadrurus arizonensis Mesobuthus Martensii Centruroides exilicauda Hottentotta hottentotta (well, currently only can wait for this..  )Those were some summarize from my reading thru internet. I know my info might be wrong. (Pls do update me with what is right, thanks) I'm looking forward to learn more about it. |
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May 24 2010, 08:13 PM
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Hmm Mesobuthus Martensii is nice for u as well but am unsure who is selling
A month back there are a few seller but i think they are sold |
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May 24 2010, 08:25 PM
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Yep.. i saw it somewhere.. I missed out alot of scorpion selling thread..
>"< I was late for few months.. Aiks.. and for some other nice scorpions.. Currently i dont have the budget for it yet.. Gotta wait until June. |
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May 24 2010, 09:35 PM
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Go to Ikano as fast as your feet will take you. Run up the moving elevators and go to Petsafari. At the far end in there, look for a shop named Toby's. They have some juvies for sale now, if you're looking for Mesobuthus martensii.
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May 24 2010, 11:11 PM
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Centruroides exilicauda<< this my dear friend...can KILL you...
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May 24 2010, 11:21 PM
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can hottentottax2's venom lead to death ?
is it really that suitable for a beginner? though i find that there is difficulty in keeping this species  dun really understand what do they really need  This post has been edited by tunemystylez: May 24 2010, 11:23 PM |
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May 24 2010, 11:37 PM
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did sumone say longimanus...
i'm interested to see any picture of the specimen. |
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May 24 2010, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(tunemystylez @ May 24 2010, 11:21 PM) can hottentottax2's venom lead to death ? Never heard of hottentotta being deadly but should not underestimate this species as they are kinda defensiveis it really that suitable for a beginner? though i find that there is difficulty in keeping this species dun really understand what do they really need Aside from proper environment, i always think they need some ''luck'' too  QUOTE(akagidemon @ May 24 2010, 11:37 PM) did sumone say longimanus... i'm interested to see any picture of the specimen.   |
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May 24 2010, 11:48 PM
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OMG!! Ryo.. u scared me just now... nasib baik x terkencing..
Back to the topic.. i agree with Ryo.. there is no data stating that Hottenttota is deadly.. but just becareful with it.. I have no luck in raising them.. but dat doesnt mean everyone has the same luck... |
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May 25 2010, 12:26 AM
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ermmm remember the risk of allergic reaction to the venom.even a hetrometrus spinifer can kill u if ur allergic to the venom.
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May 25 2010, 12:36 AM
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There is a guy in Thailand who died from a heterometrus sting, though i think he have secondary infection
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May 25 2010, 12:38 AM
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Guess he was allergic to the toxicity of the venom..... People even can die from bee sting.. so im not shocked to hear such cases
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May 25 2010, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(TAGreptiles @ May 25 2010, 12:11 AM) Centruroides exilicauda<< this my dear friend...can KILL you... +1 for tagreptilesCentruroides exilicauda scorpion stings About 40 species of scorpions exist in America. Centruroides exilicauda may cause severe effects. Most dangerous species are found from North Africa to India. Scorpion stings vary in severity, depending on the species of the scorpion and the amount of poison actually injected. They cause severe pain in the affected area. Mild reactions may include local swelling, skin discoloration, swollen lymph nodes near the sting area, itching, paresthesias ("pins and needles," numbness), and even nausea and vomiting. The duration of symptoms is less than 24 hours. The following first aid treatment should be given for scorpion stings: 1. Place ice over the sting site (cool the area for up to 2 hours). Do NOT use tobacco juice, saliva, or other concoctions. 2. Elevate the affected limb to approximately heart level. 3. Give acetaminophen for minor pain. 4. Calcium gluconate, 10 ml of 10 percent solution, may be given intravenously to relieve muscle spasms. 5. Valium may be used to control excitability and convulsions. 6. An antivenom is available for severe bites by Centruroides exilicauda (also called "bark scorpion," it is the scorpion found in Mexico and the American southwest). It is available from the Antivenom Production Laboratory, Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona 85281, phone (602) 965-6443 or (602) 965-1457, and from Poison Control in Phoenix, phone (602) 253-3334. CAUTION: Morphine and meperidine hydrochloride may worsen the respiratory depression from the venom of Centruroides exilicauda. btw , i just realised that this specimens is ready for import by seller in sale thread . cool....... information extracted from the internet This post has been edited by s98432512: May 25 2010, 08:17 AM |
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May 26 2010, 12:47 AM
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nice info. thank you.
by the way, do anyone know where to get the humidity meter? i look through the LFS in melaka here, cant find any of it. |
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May 26 2010, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ May 26 2010, 12:47 AM) nice info. thank you. you could find in the sales thread.. mostly Exoterra dealers have itby the way, do anyone know where to get the humidity meter? i look through the LFS in melaka here, cant find any of it. |
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May 27 2010, 04:03 AM
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okok.
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May 27 2010, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(s98432512 @ May 25 2010, 08:16 AM) +1 for tagreptiles NEVER EVER ELEVATE A BITE/STING SITE OR LIMB FROM ANY VENOMOUS ANIMALS UP TO THE LEVEL OR ABOVE THE LEVEL OF YOUR HEART. Centruroides exilicauda scorpion stings About 40 species of scorpions exist in America. Centruroides exilicauda may cause severe effects. Most dangerous species are found from North Africa to India. Scorpion stings vary in severity, depending on the species of the scorpion and the amount of poison actually injected. They cause severe pain in the affected area. Mild reactions may include local swelling, skin discoloration, swollen lymph nodes near the sting area, itching, paresthesias ("pins and needles," numbness), and even nausea and vomiting. The duration of symptoms is less than 24 hours. The following first aid treatment should be given for scorpion stings: 1. Place ice over the sting site (cool the area for up to 2 hours). Do NOT use tobacco juice, saliva, or other concoctions. 2. Elevate the affected limb to approximately heart level. 3. Give acetaminophen for minor pain. 4. Calcium gluconate, 10 ml of 10 percent solution, may be given intravenously to relieve muscle spasms. 5. Valium may be used to control excitability and convulsions. 6. An antivenom is available for severe bites by Centruroides exilicauda (also called "bark scorpion," it is the scorpion found in Mexico and the American southwest). It is available from the Antivenom Production Laboratory, Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona 85281, phone (602) 965-6443 or (602) 965-1457, and from Poison Control in Phoenix, phone (602) 253-3334. CAUTION: Morphine and meperidine hydrochloride may worsen the respiratory depression from the venom of Centruroides exilicauda. btw , i just realised that this specimens is ready for import by seller in sale thread . cool....... information extracted from the internet P/s: Read from multiple sources (if you have time like me, because God gave me 25hours each day!) before passing false information such as these which could just help kill a few handsome lads. The internet is full of self proclaimed calico experts which feel the urge to write bull when they're high on fine weed or wine. This post has been edited by rafiqos: May 27 2010, 08:31 AM |
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May 27 2010, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(rafiqos @ May 27 2010, 08:57 AM) NEVER EVER ELEVATE A BITE/STING SITE OR LIMB FROM ANY VENOMOUS ANIMALS UP TO THE LEVEL OR ABOVE THE LEVEL OF YOUR HEART. Well... i am no medical student nor doctor. i can't comment on the statement u mentioned above. either do i have the rights to say what u mentioned is wrong or right , but i believe the mentioned from the published is sure bond to some reasons for the mentioned action. leading from the source. i personally rather go for the the published. via visa , "in" what u mentioned , a few handsome lads might be killed too. don't you think so ?P/s: Read from multiple sources (if you have time like me, because God gave me 25hours each day!) before passing false information such as these which could just help kill a few handsome lads. The internet is full of self proclaimed calico experts which feel the urge to write bull when they're high on fine weed or wine. anyway the source : http://www.tpub.com/corpsman/187.htm History of tpub » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « (p/s: i totally agree, The internet is full of self [I]proclaimed calico experts which feel the urge to write bull when they're high on fine weed or wine.)[/I] |
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