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post Oct 25 2009, 09:26 PM

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lol... try false scorpion tongue.gif
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post Oct 25 2009, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(yltanisaac @ Oct 25 2009, 10:27 PM)
"I Realise I Just Fell In Love With Hottentotta Polystictus & Hottentotta Trilineatus  But I Still Love My Wife !"  thumbup.gif
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it is called affair tongue.gif lol ....


Added on October 25, 2009, 9:32 pmbtw another of my a.m molted today ... looks like it is molting week for a.m smile.gif

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post Oct 25 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(HyourinMaru @ Oct 25 2009, 11:19 PM)
Do knw dat it is very lucky to get an emp as starter scorp wink.gif
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tobe frank .. i have to agree ... time back when i just started ..........i think only have afs .... luckily my 2nd scoprion is h.h smile.gif
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post Oct 25 2009, 10:41 PM

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btw a new forum from china ( need to be able to read chinese )

check out their tarantula and scorpions !!!!!

http://bbs.pxtx.com/board-60.aspx
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post Oct 26 2009, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(akagidemon @ Oct 26 2009, 11:41 PM)
my my. its is very cold la in this thread. some artsy pic of my new scorps.

first up . the ever famous but underrated

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i do have to make the lighting better. i think its too dark.

so i adjusted the lighting,change the ligh bulb to a whiteish one and took a picture of a new member of my invert family. just arrive today by mail from a far eastern friend. guess what sp it is?

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yellow fat tail. yeaaaaaa.

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nice l.a bro ...... and OMMG !!!!!!!!!! yellow fat tail... !!!!!!!! w where did u get it ???? what is the size ??????!!!!!
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post Oct 26 2009, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Oct 26 2009, 11:54 PM)
Why la u quote u remove the spoiler lester -.-''
Isnt that a Androctonus Amoreuxi?
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cos spolier can't see the image whistling.gif

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post Oct 26 2009, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(rideon @ Oct 27 2009, 12:12 AM)
congrats on the new addition... YFT yeah.. rite.... i'll b geting one yft soon... buahahahahahah...
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3i ??? YFT ??? lol ...
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Oct 27 2009, 12:43 AM)
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???? lol dun understand tongue.gif
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(leetplayer @ Oct 27 2009, 12:43 AM)
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nice 2i l.m i see more up for grab smile.gif


Added on October 26, 2009, 11:48 pm
QUOTE(rideon @ Oct 27 2009, 12:46 AM)
Ryo.. ur not the only one here.. i had my fare of it..
the only one i know who has better luck is Lester... i dun kno wut you do but ur hot hot grow like crazy.,...
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lol...
i got my share too .... rem ... lol.. i think is due to the sub used and humilidity

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post Oct 27 2009, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Oct 27 2009, 12:58 AM)
What should i do with the hot hot corpse i wonder...
Feed it to my C.Marg?
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post Oct 27 2009, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(*FallenAngel* @ Oct 27 2009, 01:41 AM)
lester, mind tell us how u keep ur hot2? where u put them (dark corner or beside window), how long u mist n quantity, any heating when rainy day?
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i kept mine h.h as followed ...

2i-3i : coco fibre with slight mist every week at side of container, fed with crickets legs.
3i -4i : 50 /50 coco - fibre and fine play sand, slight mist at side of container every week once,, feed with crickets leg , meal worms
4i - 5i : 50 /50 coco - fibre and fine play sand, slight mist at side of container every week once , feed with small crickets and roaches
5i - 6i : 30 / 70 coco - fibre and fine paly sand , sand on the higher end side... slight mist at side of container every week once ,, feed with crickets ..
6i : 10/90 coco-fibre and fine play sand, sand on the higher end side , slight mist at side of container every week once , feed with crickets..

away from direct sun light and in a well ventilated area ...
daily rountine cleaning and check for un eaten food ... wasted / uneaten food is a must to clear away ..........

some barks for them to hide and last a aslight mist when i suspect them molting ...

with regards to the bedding .. i did a few experiment and did post my reviews in the past post ... do check them out smile.gif
try not to power feed them, i realize it shorten their life span and have molting problems.........

do not disturb if u see them in the process of molting ... i also realize that a slight disturance sort of halt the process of molting imo.
look from the side of the container first to check the status before proceeding to do anything in order to min disturance to the best ..

well that is how i been keeping them and hope it helps.......... i do lost many h.h scorplings before. so far the menthod above work well for me til now so far lol ...

happy h.h keeping smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2009, 02:45 PM

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i am thinking ...could it be ventilation issues ????
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post Oct 27 2009, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(*FallenAngel* @ Oct 27 2009, 08:33 PM)
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Thx bro, that would be helpful.... Hopefully...
About those sand, saw u mentioned that u get them from beach rite? Do you soak them in water 1st and boil them? Cause from what I know those sand do contain salt which is a no for inverts, correct me if I am wrong...

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Kar, i wonder do this apply to other arid inverts, cause they have been kept in a dry condition, so the 1st reaction when they saw/sense water, they will drink like hell.... They never know they could die for this....

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Bro, i dont really understand what is the main point in the post, is it how we mist the container? or I read the wrong post...
Is it this one ?
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Added on October 27, 2009, 9:22 pmbtw i lost 1 vittatus.... sad to see it. Suspect died in my car yesterday after meeting rafiq, coz quite cold yesterday. sad.gif
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sorry for ur loss ...is it the only one ????
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post Oct 28 2009, 12:31 AM

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some tots for count welcome comments and advises ...

say a same batch of scorpling ... can we say the ones that normally molt the 1 st are male ... the ones that molts lastly are female ... i believe it applies to Ts how abt scorpions ???

what do u guys thinks ???
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hmmm to be frank ... i kept my desert scorpion bone dry ....
for example - lq ...

fine sand with barks..
humidity - 70 - 90 % ( i can't control that with the poor equipment i have )
temperture ... room temperture
no misting at all.. but i make sure they have small meals twice evry week.. water will be from food source itself ..........

so far no problem with mine... since 2i . now it is 4i waiting and in premolt stage ...

counterpart in us having the same batch have no problem with it too ...... and also in premolt stage currently ...............

personally imho, i think somehow food source sometime do play a part too ... as we know locally ... mass crickets were culture for $$$$$ to be sold off as feeder .. how many a time do we know what these people fed to the crickets ... ???

i heard some say chicken feeds ....... some say veg til meshed potota ....
well we really will not know ... maybe there might other feeds begin fed to the crickets for fast growth ????? and these chemical in the feds which i presume are not natural and have side effect to the scorpion or inverts when we feed them ...

secondly it might be due to the env they are raised ..... dirty env might intro virus or infection which indriectly pass to the end user ....


i try to cut down on crickets sice and more depended on home curtured feeders liek roaches and crickets ............


hmm what to do guys think ?????

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QUOTE(tunemystylez @ Oct 28 2009, 02:03 PM)
damn,
today woke up at 5:00am and peek on my H.H ,
and its body turn over ,and...dont wanna continue...
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maybe itis molting on its back ????? hmmm common as i see my pt does that all the time ...

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post Oct 28 2009, 05:09 PM

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Tityus Stigmurus !!!!!!!!!!! hot sp smile.gif


Added on October 28, 2009, 5:11 pm
QUOTE(Kar @ Oct 28 2009, 05:45 PM)
If you were to ask me, these are the few hypothesis that I have narrowed down,

1) The Hottentotta Hottentotta that you bought is possibly an old Hottentotta Hottentotta. I believe like any other animals, scorpions too will be weaker and weaker as they age. In this case, we're still not sure because we can't tell how old exactly is your former Hottentotta Hottentotta. Any information on this will be of great use! smile.gif

2) It could be a Wild Caught specimen. I'm not sure if you guys have experienced the same issues that I have with Wild Caught scorpions. What I actually have as feedback from my friends and also through observing my very 2 Wild Caught specimen(Liocheles Australasiae), problems do occur when it comes to feeding. Half of the time, force feeding is almost a must! And not only feeding, they also seem to perish easily in captivity due to some reasons that I can't think of now.  sad.gif

3) There is one more possibility and that is due to the scorpion itself has already weakened itself before reaching to you. This is the only hypothesis that I still have great doubts due to my lack of knowledge in regards of how a scorpion can be weakened/killed. Especially for your Hottentotta Hottentotta case, there is a bundle of thoughts to be put in because you yourself is a credible keeper with experience. I believe with any "google-diseases", you should have been able to identify before hand.

I really do believe in mothers that are kept with minimal husbandry will lead to defected babies and even for some mothers which are kept with good husbandry, defected babies will definitely come by possibly either due to stress during labour, stress during gestation, imperfect gestation, or it can even be due to bad genetics. From my tarantula keeping experience, I have seen eggsacs that contain almost 50-80% of spiderlings that are born with Dyskinetic Syndrome or some even smaller than their siblings. Some are born not eating at all in which caused them to not go through 2nd instar or in some cases, 3rd instar.

EDIT : Ahh...it's not the same ones that we have. Hmm...I noticed your signature...and I see Tityus Stigmurus! May I know if there is any possibility if I were to get some as well? Uber interested!! tongue.gif
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hmmmm i do agree with you and this got me thinking of my Orthochirus Scrobiculosus Negebensis new brood which i got a few weeks back ...
i been thinking ... could it be due to what you have said ??? bad genes ?

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post Oct 28 2009, 05:26 PM

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i miss the scorpling ..
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hmmm .... i starting to feel tense in here ........... topic become more and more chim liao ... lol ... but very informative smile.gif


Added on October 28, 2009, 11:46 pm
QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Oct 28 2009, 06:55 PM)
What? L.Australasiae die easily and need to force feed? O_O
I have no problem at all with my wc LA, i even caught one with brood from previous herping trip with taggy and all of the babies survived
(Few died cause i neglected them, ok sry man:()
About feeding, no problem at all, just kill and throw inside, they ll eat after a few minutes

Stigmurus and Jacksoni are from trading with lester with my innesi
They will only reach on mid nov thou... Grey color= Pending
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QUOTE(*FallenAngel* @ Oct 28 2009, 07:03 PM)
inbreeding could cause any effect in inverts? For gravid scorps that refuse to eat, i dont think that they are full so they refuse to eat. Same as human beings, they need to supply nutrients to the foetus in the womb (if they have 1). Or maybe they not used to local crix? tongue.gif or they are too weak to eat after killing the prey as they are gravid n need more energy? Ryo do you tried prekilled prey?
And yeah, I agree with Kar too, wc specimen are not use to be fed with mealworm or crix. Hong/eddie once told me that wild caught specimen will refuse to eat as they were fed with other kind of bugs in the wild. They might never encounter these bugs in their life before and hence they refuse to eat. And I read that living things do "evolve" into different species (speciation) if they have different kind of food source. So might be the food are not their basic diet hence they might face some problem during digestion and absorption.
Lester, how about those  Lychas Scutilus ? U mention about you found their habitat right? So any news?
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Added on October 28, 2009, 11:48 pm
QUOTE(danny94 @ Oct 28 2009, 08:37 PM)
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btw guys ...the sand and earth clay mixture have dry up .... but i think i added too much sand .. now is so damned hard ..abit differ from what i have in mind ... but i think still okie ... smile.gif texture and intact percentage is there ......... color is of pale red more to dull pink...

i think i wil proceed with the actual tank landscaping smile.gif

but with lesser sand this time round .........



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