Link to v1 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/632630

congratz V2

congrats on V2...

Yay, it's V2.

I might be setting up a 2nd HT system using my 1800. A bit sayang to sell it off since it is a good avr.

Any suggestion on Yamaha HT set, if with a RM3000 +/- budget?

yes broither, have tried pure direct/audio on movies and concerts also too, for my case the sonics is very good too ( have to set the LFE out to SWR & MAIN) but still missing the feel of something ( bottom end ) AS i say the LFE is not activated, still why yammy disable this feature
so denon and onkyo does output LFE on Pure audio.

How much diid you let go your 1800?

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Added on September 20, 2009, 1:16 pmBro, I thought pure direct/audio is for 2 channel listening only minus LFE. If you want LFE, just switch it to stereo. I don't think other brand avr will output LFE when they are in pure direct mode.

This post has been edited by moviebuff: Sep 20 2009, 01:16 PM

In my Onkyo, Pure Audio mode can utilise the other channels if your source material is multi channel. So if I enable 5.1 audio I will get some LFE and even surround sounds in Pure Audio mode.

So what's the benefit of Pure Audio mode then? I believe all the EQ, bass management and other audio processing is turned off.

In Pure audio mode, av amp just amplifly the sound from the source player, it is best to use this mode to test CD players..in my opinion.

Its really a set back that Yammy AVR disable LFE on pure direct (yammy term) pure audio ( onkyo & maybe others )
as far as i know Denon does activate LFE,

Yes pure direct is mainly for CD playback ( to maintain the purest audio path like normal Amps) bypassing AVR's DSP, even the display will dim off completely, ( try it out , you really get better separation, depth, ) it is.... a totally another level of listening pleasure

yammy does do pure direct on multichannels too, it will just bypass all processing and output to respective speakers.. not bad tho..
in fact if you use True HD, DTS HD/MA modes you are also using unprocessed modes (as compared to DSP concert. movie theather, Hall ) signals are also bypassed but amplified in a different way, ( its the exact soundfield the recording engineers/directors wanted us to hear)

so if you want to use pure direct mode on yammy (unless yammy engineers rectify it) make sure you go with Floorstand or fullrange speakers for your mains, or otherwise if you use satellites pair it with an additional sub.

those ppl who are not that audiophile fussy, just use stereo, or straight mode, you will be very happy with the sound

This post has been edited by moomoos: Sep 20 2009, 05:18 PM

If u have good CDP then Pure Direct really bring out the excellence in 24-bit CD. It's like comparing BD and DVD.

Guys... how much is the Z7?

probably abt rm15k mark.

Hmm.... I thought around 10k range because it only retails at 2.7k USD

biasa la.. tambah 30% more to RRP..

Geng hor.... earn less here yet have to pay more

Malangsial memang boleh.

I think got higher tax for these products and also middleman make more mah compared to people like newegg/crutchfield/amazon etc....

Yeah, we Malaysians are getting a bum deal on AV equipment here...

not only AV equipment
car also
tax us kao kao, all gone into their pocket in the name of 'development'

But still got elite driving Lamborghini and Ferrari everywhere.

The hefty tax and duty are too much of a burden.

Those driving supercars are filthy rich since the tax is as high as 300%

Maybe all the tax went to them?

For super elite 300% is like kacang
like my big boss's car
one year road tax can buy a MyVi oredi

of coz some got lubang
no need to pay tax at all

My boss Bentley road tax only 19k per year. And that's a 2 mil car. What car your boss drive that have 50k road tax per year? I never heard before. Ferrari FXX?

Probably, co reg car as the tax is way higher.

I think that another Yamaha 1800 owner here will be jumping ship to 'Sky Dragon' camp. My bad......

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Added on September 23, 2009, 11:01 amauditioned at desa kepong recently, was quoted rm9k+. didn't bargain since not impressed compared onk 906. z7 runs real hot.

z11 probably costs rm16k.

This post has been edited by aquest: Sep 23 2009, 11:04 AM

Bentley also
r u sure the road tax is only 19k?
coz I saw myself the road tax disc on his car windscreen stated near 40k
can buy the lowest spec of MyVI

est 19k for half year road tax against your est 40k... then it make sense

All the sifus here,

I've RX-V863 .

I've tried to set up my front channels using separate power amp. I've tried a few power amp, and every time after hooking up the power amp, and using the Yamaha auto setup, the result will be front speaker "out of phase" !

I check the manual, and it says: "Speaker polarity is not correct. This message may appear depending on the speakers even when the speakers are connected correctly"

What's that means huh? I'm sure that I've connected the speakers correctly. So, what's the solution? Yamaha manual says even if connected correctly, the error message might appear

What should I do huh? Do I need to do anything if I'm sure I've connected the speakers correctly and ignore the message?

Very confusing message I've even changed to different front speakers to try out, and the error message is there..

If I don't use the power amp, and use the AV amp speakers output, then it's always ok.

Any sifus here experience this before?

This post has been edited by billyngcam: Sep 26 2009, 06:59 PM

Try swapping the +ve and -ve at the speaker terminals. Do this to only one speaker.

Doing that will solve the problem... but, it's not correct I think... because all the connection I've checked 100 times, and it's 100% correct..

Yes, that's why it says "even when the speakers are connected correctly" in the manual. It should be OK as long as it's correctly in-phase.

Can try to troubleshoot further by using a different interconnect between the AVR and the power amp. Maybe the cables faulty.

mine happen too, re-tighten the biding post, redo few times then ok,

if you are sure that the connections are correct.....
just uncheck (untick) the wiring before doing auto speaker calibration. think its firmware bug.

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Added on September 28, 2009, 4:18 pmone more weird think to check,
are all your plugs to your power amps correct... i mean "live-neutral-earth" thingy??
maybe yours is US amp .... the power plugs are "reversed"

This post has been edited by moomoos: Sep 28 2009, 04:21 PM

hi moomoos,

Thanks..

What do u mean "untick" the wiring? In setup menu?

by the way, did you connect to power amp directly? or do you connect through another pre-amp then to power amp ?

Really confuse lah..

This post has been edited by billyngcam: Sep 28 2009, 04:44 PM

i am only using the amp feeding 7.1 channels directly

under the auto setup, > setup menu > you have

- distance
- equalising
- wiring << just untick this in the check-box
- Multipoint measure
- level

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Added on September 29, 2009, 10:57 pmbefore doing the YPAO, crank up the volume ( i put mine to -20 ) i find it gives a better calibration when volume is higher

the higher you crank up the volume before calibration,
the level of your speakers will be adjusted lower, so during actual usage your normal volume should be about -25 to -35

example only...( ideal balance left right case)

1- AVR vol at -15 b4 YPAO ~~~~ after calibration done L spk level +1, R spk +1, sur R +2 sur L +2

2- AVR vol at -35 b4 YPAO ~~~~ after calibration done L spk level +6, R spk +6, sur R +7 sur L +7

what i mean is if you still want to adjust the speaker level higher manually for (No 2) you cant do much, further more if your adjusted speaker level is at No 2, even your AVR knob vol at -40 to some people at normal listening is considered very loud already.

so the more you crank up volume for YPAO, the louder the burst, more accurate for MIC signal pick up.....

sorry for the lenghty explanation

This post has been edited by moomoos: Sep 29 2009, 10:57 PM

Im no sifu but u can check your sub woofer. Reverse it in the speaker manual setup or if your woofer comes with a switch/button to reverse the phase, just do it there and run the test again.

own a Yammy 465 which drive my Wharfedale 9.1, 9.cc and WH210.

cheers...

Thanks sifu!
Strange enough, after moving the mic 1 feet higher, even without changing any wire, the result was ok liao!!
Very blur!
But anyway, I'm happy now.

Thanks again!

strange indeed. Your mic should level with your ear or listening height. I use a camera tripod to setup the exact location where I seat.

My 2 cents idea suggest that your woofer would still out of phase hence putting the mic 1ft higher fix it, but that is not your listening position. So, I would suggest to reverse the phase of your sub to or else there could be some freq missing around your Xover freg range.

Just my 2 cents though...

in the report, only front speakers are out of phase. other speakers set are all ok.

but last night, I tried putting the mic to normal position again, it was ok liao...

strange!!

the only thing I change during setup is the volume .... before, I think the before auto setup, my volume was around -20 to -25db . but now I set to -10 db for setup..

but, during setting, I thought regardless of what volume you might have, the system has a standard volume to send out test tone right?

ahhhh, confuse

Sorry, I would like to ask, where is Yamaha service centre in Klang Valley?
My receiver, can not be on/powered up for quite some time now, thinking to bring it up for repair though.

You can find them at Kelana Jaya.

YAMAHA MUSIC (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD
Head Office
No. 8, Jalan Perbandaran,
Kelana Jaya, 47301 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor

Tel : 03-78030900
Fax : 03-78030611


It's next to the Kastam complex, facing PKNS field, along the LDP heading towards Sunway toll.

Thanks mate.

I hope you guys don't mind me asking about Yamaha speakers.

Anyone using these 2 front speakers NS-50F? Is a display set (both speakers) approx RM900 worth buying? Can give some feedback of the sound quality ?

Thanks.

This thread looks really dead quiet

anyone tried playing wave files thru USB to AVR

i have..., with 8GB Kingston thumbdrive ...not bad le, still get the excitment

no need switch on BD or CD,
its Fantastic even the AVR LCD can display the Album folder/song title too

just another way of "simplicity" listening

^ Oh.. I gotta try that.

dump in MP3, WAV, WMA,
if want continous playing.....
no need create folder, so it will keep on playing until the end

what model you are using? I wonder if onkyo can do that.

me using RX-V3900
any Brand, be it, Onkyo, Denon, Pioneer with the USB input, shud be able to play, but dont know what file format only

but MP3 for sure all bolih

Hi guys, need some input and advice here..

i'm planning to get a RX-663, any idea where i can find it coz everywhere i go, they say no more already...sighhh, or better still can you'll pls suggest something with similar or better performing AVR's? my budget is within 2K, maybe can stretch a little bit...say 20-30%.

Thanks!!!

the replacement model is RX-V665, but i think should be way above your estimated budget

I used to like yammy but with pricing of new models I just stay away.

Why not the RX-V565 if the 665 is above his budget?

665 can get it at 2.3k (cash)

This post has been edited by WereWolf84: Oct 24 2009, 02:33 PM

663 was 1.8k and more or less the same as 665. see what i meant? for 1.8k u have to downgrade urself to 565 if u still want yammy.

Bro, you forgot to take "inflation" into consideration , last time 1.8k not equivalent to 1.8k nowadays

mana ada inflation bro. that was only last year. economy not much difference as now

663 had a very good review edging Denon1909
so grab the 665

sauce ?

This isnt true!!! 663 nor 606 can challenge the reputable 1909 in any PQ & AQ section. Case Closed.

"kicap" ??

Thanks for the input guys!! guess i'll stick to the 665 then.....any idea where's the best place to purchase??

Thanks again!!

Since the Denon 1909 beats out the 663, the question now is, does it(1909) also beats outs the Yammy 665?

hi, own a unit of RX-V361, set of NS-M125 & YST-SW215...
nice to meet u all

Whats the best price for RX-V665 now

Thanks!!

try pm C.T. Seong or
maybe Desa

A little noob question here. Did yamaha Malaysia bring black color because haven't seen in any shop have black color. I'm looking for RX-V1900. Any suggestion where to audition?

^ There's definitely a black version of 1900 in Malaysia cause I got mine 2 weeks ago ;-) from Desa HT.

Try Desa Lowyat r Kepong. when I auditioned it 2 months b4(Low Yat) it was black color. Last friday Desa got sale also on The Star paper. Anyway I ended up with Denon.

How much you get from Desa?

Thanks

Any Yamaha Z-7 user in da house ?

Roughly how much would the Z-7 cost now?

rough guess, 10k??

My take is RM12K+. Tembak only. CT Seong, pls enlightens us wt the price

This post has been edited by htkaki: Nov 10 2009, 02:07 PM

same price with Pioneer LX82 amplifier.
limited offer

This post has been edited by C.T. Seong: Nov 10 2009, 02:12 PM

Z-11 still 20k++?

Temp temp.....poison poison....

Lemme guess. Less than RM 8K.

So does that mean 8.8k would be the price on offer?

bro
wat price is LX 82 anyway, also 72 and 52
gracias

Buy..... LX-82 is impressive for it stereo too.

Hello everybody,Yamaha amp sounds more brighter than Pioneer amplifier right?

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Added on November 11, 2009, 12:11 amBut the LX-82 better than Z-7 right?


This post has been edited by benben79: Nov 11 2009, 12:11 AM

LX-90 vs Z11 leh ?

Wah like this don't know.
But in terms of power I think SC-LX90 is more powerful since Z-11 amplification concept is different.
If im not wrong their power amplification for surround is lower then the power for front speaker all this.
But sound quality,no idea.
Should go to hiway laser ss2 to auditioned SC-LX90
But bro,what do you think between SC-LX90 and Z-11?

I also dunno leh.. since these are 5 figure amps.. maybe some rich elite owners can answer... me just in the peasant 1k HT gear bracket..

Yeah lo.
Im happy if I can own a seperate amp
Example:NAD T175 & NAD 975 or NAD M15 HD & M25 or SC-LX90 and Denon the combo also
very expensive.
Im happy if can manage to own a Pioneer SC-LX82 already.
Then slowly upgrade
And bro, you auditioned the SC-LX82 before?


This post has been edited by benben79: Nov 11 2009, 12:49 AM

no havent.. only have the ultra cheapo 515 few years back..

At 1st I was aiming for the Z-7.
But I auditioned before their amplifier.
I think is the 3900 or 1900.
Their sound quite bright.
And last year I auditioned before the SC-LX81 at hiway laser also.
Their sound was very deep and great.
But I have not made my decision that time since economy is going down.
Until then the SC-LX82 annouced liao.
And after some time of hard saving money,I beh tahan liao.
Wanted to get LX-82.
But must try out the LX-81 see whether got much difference or not.

I don't find my ex-Yamaha quite bright. The dynamics are definitely there.

May I know what speakers are being hooked up to Yamaha and also the SC-LX81? The reason being that speakers choice would greatly affect the overall SQ.

Having said that LX-82 is in different league unless you take Z-7 to compare wt it. I have not get the chance to audition the Z-7. However, LX-82 is very good. No pun intended to others. I do not like Pioneer due to its harshness and its HF particularly the VSX models. The LX series did change my perception.

But, if you are aiming for LX-82, please do justice to this gem. Buy equally good loudspeakers to match it. IMHO, abt RM15k or more for 5 speakers setup (excluding sub) is the way to go

any suggestion of speaker brand & model within that budget

If im not wrong,they are using the B&W 700 series speaker.
The sound are very good and not bright at all.
But since you are quite experience in amplifier,which amp better?
In between the SC-LX82 and Z-7.
But recently What Hifi awards 2009 the LX-82 *sapu* the award while the Z-7 never *sapu* any award also.

WHF sld only be treated as light reading and don't take its awards too seriously, if you get what I mean. Take it as a pinch of salt.

There are tonnes of very good speakers particularly from the North America that did not make it into its mag.

Now, I know why it is not bright. B&W has a warm characteristic. Btw, LX-82 aint going to make the best out of 700 by itself. To truly appreciate B&W 700 series, you need beefy power amp.

How abt the Yamaha? What speakers are being hooked up?

Which amp is better? It's a personal preference. Some ppl like dynamics (which tends to sound a bit bright) while some prefer warm (some ppl termed it as lazy). It's your call.For the record, I am not experienced in amplifier / avr. Still learning since there are loads of new model wt new tech flooding our mart




It would be pure marketing and salesman's technique if I recommend a particular brand w/o knowing your preference and setup. Mind to share?

Paradigm Monitor speaker line v.6
this series ok ar? not so expensive in US..

Ohh..okay..
Mean to say that B&W consume alot of power also.
But for me,B&W maybe more on music.
Especially their 800 big fat speaker

Actually I was aiming for the PSB Synchrony One since their bass is awesome
But the price is AWESOME too.
Thats why I hunt for subwoofer rather than speaker 1st.
But year end already.
Always work until 99
So no time to auditioned any set up by hifi shops.
The last time I went to Hifi shop to auditioned speaker is around 4months ago at A&L sungai wang.
When the Dali arrived.
The beauty piano finish Helicon 400mk2
But too bad Dali are meant for music more.
Anyway do you listen to PSB Synchrony before?

Im a little *sakai* here.
Pai seh.
The last time I auditioned was at Amcorp mall quite long time ago when one of the customer wanted to buy it.
When they use those power amp to amplify it,the sound and especially the bass is KENG!
The woofer already cantik gile....
But saving hard to buy.
Maybe before next year Chinese new year.
And i just own a old sony HTIB and a 46inches V400 only.

Waiting for my new house renovation only.
Then I calculate my budget only I made decision.
But anyway thanks alot for your advice

This post has been edited by benben79: Nov 11 2009, 09:49 AM

WARGHHH... EVERY BODY NOW TALKING ABOUT HI-END AMPS.. UHHH..