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Pai
post Sep 24 2009, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(rakyat @ Sep 18 2009, 09:52 AM)
Buy an afforatable property - more expensive then UT or education policy but you can get rental income and if the location is correct in 20yr time returns will be much better.
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I agree with Rakyat and cynthusc to invest in properties for your kid's education. But like to clear the some misconcpetion that :


1. Properties are expensive -
Spend 20k d/p today on a 200k apartment and get 200k equity after 20 years(assume the property did not appreciate at all). One needs to invest at least 3 times more in UT or education policy to achieve the same 200k.

Some of us little or no $$$$ to buy properties, and that CANT be expensive tongue.gif

2. Properties are illiquid -
a. It should not matter as we r talking about a long term investment plan here.
b. If you can sell 5% below market price your property today will most likely sold within 1 month.
c. Depending on the interest rate situation after 20 years, one can always opt to refinance. Just need 3 months waiting period (assuming banking process did not improve at all over the next 20 years)

This post has been edited by Pai: Sep 24 2009, 11:41 AM
Pai
post Sep 24 2009, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(klfong @ Sep 24 2009, 11:48 AM)
What if... it depreciates to 100K? Then now cash seems to be a better investment. Supply and demand is a very complex thing, keeping real estate as an investment will finally end up with a crash. When everyone keeps an additional house and wants to sell it when they retire, suddenly there is a slew of supply, then no buyers (assumption: population does not grow by 2x 20 yrs later), the price is going to crash.

EDIT: I do not know the current status of real estate market of Malaysia, nor I have the price index, but anyway, there is no investment with guaranteed return, must understand what you want to invest thoroughly.
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Simple facts smile.gif :

1. Show me a decent place that has depreciated by 100k in the past few years apart from Bukit Antarabangsa and Lembah Beringin? Pls exclude unsafe properties.

2. Majority of population cant afford to buy a property in decent areas, but they can afford to rent.

Malaysia real estate market is not known for its speculative nature. Prices has been on the up albeit on a much slower pace VS say SG. In the past 4 years, I've yet to see even one new development that is selling below its developer's price, let alone 100k below.


Added on September 24, 2009, 4:53 pm
QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 24 2009, 03:13 PM)
b) Not necessary across. Some areas which has passed its prime time, may not find buyer even lower 10-20% which you see lot of shoplots being abandoned one. This particular true on shop lots and those shopping mall that in non-strategic area one. The statement mostly true on residential properties generally which is not hard to find buyer, but for commercial real estate different story.

c) I would say we shouldn't be too complacency on the refinancing side, even though generally there is not much difficulty. As when there is real issue or crisis unfold in financial sector, banks can reluctantly to lend at all which clearly been shown in recent US financial crisis. Also over last decade, most people never experience the high interest environment, so refinancing can be costly as well. Although it is not the case for near term future. Just we cannot take for granted, refinancing will be easy and cheap to get  smile.gif
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b. Agree with ya hence for this purpose I only advocate residentials. Maybe for this purpose one should not go for anything less than a completed highrise, with stable rentals.

c. My personal take on refinancing is that it will only get easier in the future, assuming a person maintains a decent credit standing. It will not be to difficult for TS to get cash out of his/her properties 20 years from now.


Added on September 24, 2009, 5:02 pmAnyhow, Im not saying properties is the bestest option for TS. However, properties offer TS the flexibility to use OPM to generate his education fund, unlike general savings, equities, UT, gold & silver etc whereby his has to come out with his own funds.

There a reason why banks allows so much leverage for properties, but not for any other *investments. wink.gif

*at least for the average joes, its diff if u r a private banking customer

This post has been edited by Pai: Sep 24 2009, 05:03 PM

 

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