Yeah, with FolderPlay (it's free, go google). But no EQ OR Playlist generation in FP (though I doubt people who would save their music in FLACs bother much with EQ), as it does what it's name implies - plays your music by folders.

Supports OGG, AAC, FLAC and APE (and summore stuff I forgot) though. Funnily enough I still prefer the crispness (READ: the lossiness) of MP3...

Wow, this thread sure have grown long. Been a while since I last lepak here, too busy plugging in all manners of IEMs into my 5800, surprised that it CAN sound MORE then decent with a good pair of plugs.

For now, enjoying the Music Valley SP1 on my Fate-Tan - blows my Quattros (now relegated to reserve duty) clear out of the water as far as I'm concerned...

Currently waiting for my new victim, the Storm Cyclone PR2...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 28 2009, 11:12 PM

It should - the website states "the best sound quality" as a project goal. Shame about the no Playlist / EQ policy though, I'm not enough a audiomaniac to give up those.

I hope you have a good pair of 'phones/cans or plugs to go with that, though I'd reckon (again) anyone game enough to play FLACs should at least be borderline audiophilic...

What 'phones/plugs are you using anyhow? Chicaman in particular is having a great time pairing the 5800 with the Head-Direct RE0 (which I'm not trying yet, simply because of my bass-craze - hence the Quads, SP1 and PR2)...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 28 2009, 11:17 PM

I'd reckon for a non DAP, it'll do just fine (bar a few skips and pops - the proggy is still under development). Unfair to compare the SQ with a proper DAP though.

Also, selecting "line-out" gives the best sound quality, it seems like. Though that requires that I give up the remote-mic, so I don't do it often.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 28 2009, 11:21 PM

Don't even start if you're not prepared to descend deeper and deeper into GAS (gadget acquisition syndrome)... People say that even the Senn IE8 pairs up well with the 5800...

Of course, the IE8 costs as much as the phone to begin with...

IF you do decide to start, the SP1 works wonders with the 5800 as a low tier plug... Just sayin'...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 28 2009, 11:26 PM

Trust me, good plugs can even make our funny sounding 5800 sound musical... I never thought that I'd ever be able to stand my Fate-Tan on flat EQ myself, until I got the SP1. Now it's not that bad...

Now personally EQing +2 on the lowest end, and -1 on the mids just to suit my slightly bass heavy tastes. Not touching anything else though.

According to Chicaman, it's even more wonderful (to his more balanced ears) on the RE0...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 28 2009, 11:32 PM

Music Valley SP1. Go read more about it from godluvsxs's product page HERE. It's slightly bass heavy with a very slight midrange hump but is otherwise well balanced - a steal IMHO at RM180 for an entry level plug with local warranty and all. Works heavenly with most of my trance tracks, and it's no slouch with everything else I have either.

For even more balanced (READ: less bass), mid-centric (vocal heavy) and clear sound, people are raving over the RM200 Soundmagic PL50, which you can also get from godluvsxs if I'm not mistaken.

At the top end, we have what I think is the most expensive IEM you would ever want to logically spend on for a phone - the RM3xx RE0. It's slightly light on the bass, but is supposedly heaven in your ears for people who like clear sound. A shame it's only buyable online from Head-Direct.com...

I myself just splurged on the RM250 Cyclone PR2 with no local warranty what so ever (need to ship it myself to China if anything happens), talk about a leap of faith. Will update more on those when I get it in a week or so.

Ah, the road of the budding "budget audiophile" is winding and oh-so treacherous...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 28 2009, 11:46 PM

Just buy online from Garage Sales and let 'em ship to you lah... Although going down that road would make anybody's GAS much, much worse (take, for example, my RM250 leap of pure, unwarrantied faith on the PR2s... )

And folderplay gives more volume? On "headphones" and not "line-out" izzit? Din notice that the last time...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 28 2009, 11:50 PM

Ahahaha... At least you haven't bumped into people whose headphones costs like 3 times their audio source (Westones on Sansa Fuzes, for instance)...

And the PL50 is a great plug. Maybe next time I'm back in KL I can try out your 50s, wanna compare with my Quads, SP1 and the PR2 for a low end shoot-out of sorts...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 28 2009, 11:56 PM

Roger that. It gets worse when you start work, and other responsibilities (i.e. marriage) is quite some ways away. You start to wanna buy everything, lol...

Nearest we have is the wallpaper settings' "slide show" option, IINM. Not sure if any proggies can do that tho.

Lol, the guy who did that is a regular over at LYN's audiophile section asso. As for the SP1 vs PL50 thing, I'd say (just say, because I haven't heard the PL50s personally yet) that the PL50's sound signature should be more suited for songs that emphasize mids, instruments and vocals - i.e. most drum/bass-light modern songs, pop, classicals. It's bass is not THAT bad though, supposedly.

The SP1 is more suited for Hip Hop-ish, Electronica/Trance-ish thumping bass songs, even if it does everything else well enough. The one thing I hate about the SP1 is the funky design prevents me from wearing it over-my-ears, like I usually do with all my other plugs.

The PL50 can ONLY be worn over the ears though, as it was designed that way.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 29 2009, 12:17 AM

Agreed. I personally prefer the 5800's output to the iTouch's (or any stock unmodded SE phones for that matter), but that's me. But any other proper DAP (proper here being anything not Apple's, except the iShuffle 1st gen) should blow the 5800 clear out of the water, all things being equal.

As for spending TOO much on headies, Chicaman seems to have no problems pairing his RM3++ RE0 with the 5800 - says it sounds great too. Spending above that on the 5800 ALONE would be wasteful though, at least in my book (the RM1.6k Sennheiser IE8 + 5800 = Preposterous, although somebody over at Head-Fi seems to have tried and it seems to work well enough). But again, Sound Quality is so highly subjective that it's not quite funny anymore.

For instance, there's a whole thread split in half about the 5800 over at Head-Fi. Half raving about the 5800 great, in some cases being even better then the Creative X-Fi, another half saying it's utter crap.

Another problem with headies and their sources is that some IEMs just work swell with SOME sources while working like crap with others.

Granted, my plan to get a Sansa Clip+ or a Fuse is not yet completed, so I can't really say with true conviction that the 5800 is heaven on the ears just yet. And again, it might just be great to my ears (and tunertoobe's).

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 29 2009, 05:43 PM

I also noob maa... Collecting cheapo IEMs only...

Have to ask Clie_OS about it if we want a definite answer...

PM me later if you find a lobang to get the Clip+ somewhere, I'll do the same. It's THE answer to all my prayers (small, unobtrusive, clipable AND with external memory). Need it because I ALREADY abuse my Fate-Tan's batteries with constant 3G surfing (Opera Mini 5 beta is the greatness).

The Fuze would just add to the weight of my pockets - I'm ALREADY known as the Inspector Gadget of my workplace...

P.S. Need new Trance music to listen to. Trying out Markus Schulz's Progression Progressed...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 29 2009, 05:50 PM

As a portable DAP, the Fuse and Clip has long been regarded as having great SQ. If the Clip+ sounds as good as the Clip, it shouldn't veer far from this, but it suffers from NOT having a LOD connection option like the one the Fuze has (read: no LOD, slightly compromised SQ).

Supposedly lah... I'm no real audiophile anyhow, lol...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 29 2009, 06:04 PM

As for the internal speaker sucking, if you don't mind an external attachment, try the X-Mini/X-Mini2 speakers. They are tiny, but the sound is crap large!

But as far as internal speakers go (keeping in mind I mean the speakers built into the side of the 5800), it's not great but it's not that crappy to me either... Good for the occasional stint as a mini-hifi wannabe (in a small room... a VERY small room), although it does lack in terms of SQ.

But for most of my job requirements (I'm actually a Teacher, lol - I use the 5800 for audio-listening exercises. Will use it as a video source via TV-out later when I get a projector), I HAVE to use the X-Mini...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 29 2009, 06:22 PM

If you wanna keep it mobile lah...

Oh God, Markus Schulz is great... Really thumping my 5800 + SP1 combo right now, especially on "I Am"... The bass is ridiculously tasty... Wonder why I didn't try this guy out earlier...

Need my Cyc PR2s pronto now...

As a sidenote, anybody else using Gdesk to replace their standby screens on a full time basis? I've been doing that ever since my dialler and contacts shortcut stopped working back before I formatted my Fate-Tan a few months back. It's buggy and lacks any form of haptic feedback (my greatest gripe with it), but the sliding around is oh so cool IMHO.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 29 2009, 07:04 PM

Was referring more to the song really, not the earplugs... I can say that it would prolly be quite tasty even on the stock earbuds, terrible as they are... For trance, in my limited experience, it's a great album.

SP1 -> Music Valley SP1, IMHO one of the best bass oriented IEMs below RM200. Works well even with the 5800 and its "crappy" DAC.

Cyc PR2 -> Storm Cyclone PR2, said to be THE bass flavour of the month IEM over at Head-Fi. Recently ordered one of this, waiting for it to be delivered.

Fate-Tan -> My 5800. Her nickname comes from Five-Eight = Fate (58-00, gettit?).

Yes, I name my phones, and almost all my other electronics worth naming. I might lapse into naming my earplugs too soon. Lol, right?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 29 2009, 08:23 PM

You really hate the 5800's output Sound Quality, don't you...

Oh well, I for one think it's not THAT bad (compared to the crap I've listened to since wayyyy back), but me ears are not THAT experienced anyhow and they seem to like what the 5800 is pumping out.

But that's just me (and tunertoobe - and a coupla other people over at Head-Fi trying out everything from Denon D7000 full-cans to Sennheiser IE8s with the 5800 and saying it sounds great; and these guys are particularly crazy for using headphones and IEMs that are worth as much as - or even more then - the phone).

Oh well. SQ IS so highly subjective after all; and one man's poison is another man's cure, eh?

On a different note, the supposedly coming full UI Kinetic Scrolling firmware update for the 5800 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overdue.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 29 2009, 09:28 PM

Lol... What to do, music phone maaa...

Waiting for new stuff to try out on my Fate-Tan. We seriously need more innovative touch games, even with the resistive screen.