give me proof. and this is how you handle a complaint, just locking it because you cant give an explanation?

This post has been edited by megablue: Sep 16 2009, 11:38 AM

how did you proof i'm the one who did the spamming?
if someone impersonate Pendrive .. so you're going to block Pendrive as well?

This post has been edited by megablue: Sep 16 2009, 11:44 AM

What's your company name again?
And if you use your PM function to send out the name and address, wouldn't you have noticed that it's being replaced?
So by kowing that it had been replaced, wouldn't you have contact the said person to rectify it instead of blaming LYN for the mistake that you didn't check?

There's a reason your "company" name is filtered. It is the same with an online portal that involves itself in illegal activities.

From your history, I'm disinclined to believe that the resemblance is a coincidence.

WELL... LYN was posting illegal SERIAL NUMBERS for software (3d mark anyone) in your portal front page years back also... so you're going to block yourself? And illegal or not... it is not for you to judge. Don't try to be noble when you're not. and I doesn't remember any court orders to ban PVPGN in any country... so how is it illegal when law doesn't say so?

This post has been edited by megablue: Sep 16 2009, 11:59 AM

Laws can't be retrospective. At any rate, I don't recall any forum being a democracy.

I only want an official discussion with LYN... any LYN or UC-PRO fansboys please stay silent. Thanks.

This post has been edited by megablue: Sep 16 2009, 12:08 PM

1. those keys were trial keys that were made available on the futuremark site. Just because some irate member who got suspended decided to make that allegation all those years ago doesn't mean its true.

2. the particular word you mentioned has been filtered on the site for close to 5 years now. I find it hard to believe that you are a) not aware of it and b) still used it as your mailing address and are blaming us for it.

3. We've already answered most of your questions on this same issue a year ago http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/838998

4. Since we're not a noble site, an unfair site, a biased site, i'll do you a favour so you don't have to return here.

No court action?

Even then, your portal promotes piracy and as such is something we do not condone in this forum

Also, if you believe that we are truly "illegal", you're free to go elsewhere.

This post has been edited by H@H@: Sep 16 2009, 12:11 PM

You had that discussion once back than.
LYN as of other forums have a set of R&R to be abide too.
Word filtering/censoring is done because of specific reasons not necessary it is because it's against the formal law.

Than coming back to your previous topic and my reply. You doesn't seem to knowledge that you failed to double check what you sent yet blame everything on LYN where you previously already knew that LYN had censored the said word. So how could it be LYN faults when you have known about this all this while?!

Hello LYN Admins, i am staff from the so called illegal portal. For your knowledge, the so called illegal portal name is a company name registered under Malaysia for gaming and web service industry. If you still thinks that megablue is just want to promote the site to put on the mail list then up to you, i bet you know that to received a mail or parcel for company is requires for company name. You can just filter out our site url if you wish, but not our company name just because you think we are illegal.

Question : Did we filter out your company name before or after the company was registered?

We would have considered removing the filter on the company name if a proper request was submitted. As i recall there have been no recent indiscretions on the site using that particular keyword.

However, the fact that instead of a request, what we got was an allegation and subsequent demand, not to mention the unnecessary reference to LYN as an illegal/unfair site, the filter will now remain.

This I can give you a very sure answer, you filter our branding after we registered. If you want filter the BS3 which is the previous naming of our service, it up to you. But the problem is, since we registered the company, the so called flying monster company, we have not done anything illegal in your forum. And since when you are not really give us any trouble by filtering us, we also choose not to say anything about it, but until now we really can see how it annoy us and the problem is there. Is that you means we are not welcomed by LYN to become a normal forumer? We cant do trade in your forum? But the problem here is, megablue is just want to become as a forumer of LYN and trade as usually with another forumer. You have to know, we are not come with any intention, or we not either want you to unfiltered us, we just want to tell you that if the item lost, who is going to take the responsible. The trader? Or because the flying monster name you gave?

And another question, may i know what is the reason for LYN to ban megablue?

This post has been edited by chon9: Sep 16 2009, 02:00 PM

@chon9,
As I replied to megablue above, did you read my comment?

And FYI, I emailed and pm the seller with the address of delivery. And double checked all the info before pressing sent. I am very sure that the info was correct the moment when I pressed Send Message. There was no indication of message being filtered. All I get was Message Sent and did not know LYN filter words in the PM system as well...

FYI, if I were to spam your forum. Do you think your words filtering system can stop me? you, yourself knows better.

P/S: The great admin se7en perma banned me (megablue).

This post has been edited by megak: Sep 16 2009, 02:15 PM

So means that he(megablue) is not welcome by LYN as a forumer because he was facing troubles and seek for help here? From your sentences, i can see that you are not welcome him that why you banned him, am i right? For the truth, he just want to informed you guys how the troubles he may facing during a trade, but you guys just locked his topic by claiming that he is spamming or advertising our portal. But the truth is not, he is just seeking for help and a reasonable solution, so the item wont get lost if he have next trade

This post has been edited by chon9: Sep 16 2009, 02:15 PM

oooo...the actual problem is ur company name was filtered by LYN.Net. But why megablue doesnt state the problem clearly?

I see that the only option that available for him is that.

Accept the fact of BS being filtered.
Use your own HOME address to trade next time.
Be polite when you ask for something next time.

Do you actually read the replies posted before asking further questions?



The name of your company was already on the filter list before you registered it as a company. Just because it is a Sdn. Bhd now doesn't mean we are obliged to remove it. If you or anyone representing your Company had made a proper request to have it removed, we might have looked into it. This wasn't the case.



megablue knew very well the filter was in place. He has even started a topic on the helpdesk sometime last year on the same issue. If he knowingly proceeded to submit his address using a word he is aware would be filtered by the system, its quite obvious who the fault lies with.



General disrespect as well as making unnecessary allegations against the site. If he is so obviously upset and unhappy with the forum, then we are obviously as upset and as unhappy with him as well.



Seeking help is done in a polite manner. Its called seeking/requesting, not demanding and making derogatory statements against the site. If we did not welcome him, we would have terminated his account that has been active for the last 6 years. We answered his first post on why the word was in the filter - considering that he had already asked a similar question sometime last year to which a lengthy explanation was given.

He then proceeded to reopen a new topic on the same issue, and started making unnecessary comments against the site. Hence the suspension.

This is the helpdesk not the kopitiam. Learn to be polite if there is a next time, otherwise stay out.

it is all go back to manners
which alot of youth think none of it

if i gone to your home and scream that you block me from eating smelly tofu, durian
and i scream around saying not fair this not fair that
then what would you do

you are riding off the back of LYN popularity to market your stuff
and not paying a single cent


instead of coming out properly and seeking help
megablue come across as a demanding person

seeing the first post from the debacle
(the sending of some parcel)

instead of properly mannered discuss his own problem
he straight play the possibility of blame game to LYN

no one is gonna take that lying down
certainly not se7en

Yes, if LYN want to filter our portal or service to prevent spam of advertisement by our supporters, we still can accept it since it not affect our company operation, but the problems is why don't LYN just filter our url instead LYN directly filter our company name. Is that because we are previously BS3? You have to know, we are not try to promote any our service here, but we just want to become a normal user or forumer of LYN and use your service. Now only I know that LYN is not welcome for anyone.

There ought to be a better way to let user know that a particular word/naming is consored. Maybe something like a blinking *name is filter by LYN* instead of replacing it with *flying spaghetti*.

That way less people blaming because I was confused about this flying spaghetti issue. Took a few reading to understand why.

banned me again...

really....
the TS has already surf LYN since 2003
and did open a thread demanding answer about this filterisation

what more can LYN do

back then flying spaghetti was the popular word play, the filter was to alleviete the spamming problem with a hint of tongue-in-cheek kind a way
it was never meant to build up the issue to transcend till the issue now

all i am seeing is still the manner-less, untactful request to help solve the problem by the affected party

Ok, thanks for you answer admin, please know the situation, i am not trying to have some argue with you guys and i come in peace. And for others which is not related and doesn't know what is happen now, please stay away from it, megablue was opened another thread before this but was ocked by admin, AND WE ARE NOT DISCUSS ABOUT HOW WE ARE PROMOTING OUR SITE OR COMPANY IN LNY FOR GODSAKE, so don't simply just say to help or protect the lord. Thanks. And for your knowledge, from the first day we have the name UC-pro, it registered under UC-PRO Sdn. Bhd., unless you means the word you filter is Blue.Serve.r, Yes, it is the name before we registered the company. Anyway, i don't find any purpose for me to continue this feedback to you. Thanks for you feedback admin, lets learn a lesson.

This post has been edited by chon9: Sep 16 2009, 03:03 PM

@se7ven. you cant blame me for being straight forward (maybe you think it is rude). fyi, i did asked in manner years ago... all i get was the thread getting locked without any reply from the mods. Besides, I had really bad experiences from the mods/staff when I was helping my friend to sort out Trade zone issues from the way LYN treating its users .

This post has been edited by dupeofmegablue: Sep 16 2009, 03:07 PM

one quick question: is company A allowed to do affront on company B, openly?

Flying Spaghetti Monster is a reference to Scientology, which doesn't sound just as nice.


one honest answer i'd like to hear: being popular, that company A is much more influential than company B, does that justify company A to do such stuffs?

i'm no expert in Law (lawsuits), but if company B decides to press up charges, can it be done?

btw. i agree with pirateguy.
i'm not fanboy of either, i have some issues with certain staff at the so labeled FSM sdn. bhd.

what goes around comes around - hane.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=838998&hl=

To refresh your mind:

Why can't you do trade via personal emails instead of just using this server, which since 2008 you guys already know it has been filtered?

The onus is on you. The responsibility is on you, not lowyat.net.

There is no legal obligation of lowyat.net for NOT censoring the name.
If megablue want to press charges, then they need to prove of any legal obligation and contract between lowyat.net and their company

again..

there are tonnes of people out in the world
if you say every one have to accept, what other see as rudeness, to be your straight forward attitude?

what if i dont want to accept it ad being straight forwardness
-what would you say to me?
(either "!@#$% off then" or "sorry for my rudeness then")
then try apply the same to LYN

and you will get your appropriate answers

Since everyone put a blame on Megablue, this feedback topic seems to be voided. Like someone mention earlier in this topic, there is no democracy in forum system, even we continue it, it wont cure, so be clever son, next time just use email, don't use PM, PM make trouble.... Ok, the story end.......... Thanks everyone for the comment.

Well, if you were to be more civil and polite, things wont happen this way.

Megablue already know about this issue since Nov 7 2008.

And he repeated the same mistake again. And blame lowyat.net.

So tell me, in democratic means, if megablue has made a mistake and becomes rude, does this also means lowyat.net can be democratically rude back at him and perma ban him?

Think about it

b00n.
to refresh your mind:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021213003456/...www.lowyat.net/

Those listed keys were NOT trial keys. It was Full VERSION keys for 3DMark 03 (who need a trial key when 3D mark was a trialware by default and there is no reason for Futuremark to sabotage his own business while they're selling the full version of 3dmark benchmark programs for revenue) and was blacklisted by Futuremark. Googling the keys will lead you to pages of warez sites in google search result page. So you blame my site for so called indirectly involved in copyright issues...

He banned me right after I had mentioned the dark secrets he was trying to bury.



So noble... No piracy discussion is allowed...

This post has been edited by dupeofmegablue: Sep 16 2009, 03:31 PM

technically there is always both side of the coin

what we see here is something transcends from earlier issue
to which i detect is courtesy

being courteous cost nothing
yet still lacking in the beginning

so being humans as well
admins/staff felt no reason to be reasonable with TS


if has TS gone the softer approach, this debacle would comes up in the first place

Seems i am being judge as not polite and civil by some lord protectors. LYN admins, sorry if I not in civil and polite way, but i am just want to make the things clear.

This post has been edited by chon9: Sep 16 2009, 03:34 PM

Everybody isn't putting the blame on megablue, the fault was his in the first place.

your site is not "so called indirectly involved in copyright issues", it is directly involved in copyright issues. H@H@ posted a link earlier in the thread, wouldn't hurt you to read it.

Directly involved in copyright issues? Can you just be straight and say it out which issues? I not really understand which issues you means, and thanks.

This is old.... like those days LYP got sale pirate cd but now all ori....

If you want to make things clear, then please write an official letter from your company and send to the Admin and request for a review while apologizing for the rudeness of yr mate, megablue.

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Added on September 16, 2009, 3:49 pmthis one?
http://www.patentarcade.com/2006/07/case-d...et-gateway.html

This post has been edited by happy4ever: Sep 16 2009, 03:49 PM

Thanks for you opinion, is this official voice from LYN?? Or you personal opinions?

You're still in denial aren't you. Your question was already answered. Firstly , you took the wrong approch by being rude. On top of that you're accusing that LYN is held responsible if your package goes missing due to the filtering.

Let me ask you few simple questions

You've been here for a long time and you did realise that there is a filter which filters out your "gaming site" and you didn't check it out before sending out your PMS or even didn't bother to correct it. Alternatively since you know its being filtered , you can use other means of communication such as SMS or by placing a call to inform the seller

This means LYN slowly going the legit direction. But some other "party" still harping on LYN's past "misdeeds" to JUSTIFY their PRESENT unethical ways. What a weasel.

They treating LYN like a benchmark of some sort, guess its a happy thing for LYN mods/owner.

My opinion will goes same with happy4ever.

Ask yourself, the way megablue asking was polite?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1165264

For all those who think megablue is not polite, please refer back this topic to know why he become rude in this thread. He was asking for an answer, but instead of answer it, admins close it. I felt some admins is time to close this topic, thanks, it meaningless.

This is called doing things professionally, as a business entity yourself.

I'm a business owner myself. i should know better.

Professionalism should be void of all emotions. Just straight to the point, as formal as possible. Accompanied by your company logo and official company domain name as your email.

Also, as long as there is no legal contract between your company with lowyat.net, anything of your request would be at the sole prerogative of the Admins in lowyat.net. Which also means, if you need a favour from them, know how to win their heart la

Seconding happy4ever.


Megablue, and your dupes,

I have a seriously interesting idea for you, and you can take your time to ponder on. If you wish to promote your company in LYN, there's an option to "Advertise with us" in the mainpage. And if your company's advertising proposal were rejected, that means that LYN clearly does not wish to do it.


Now, if you still want to promote your company, i believe there's thousand's way out there, only if you want it. Stop blaming LYN because it's a public forum administered by 3 person. And they have much more there to do than to entertain people like you.


Thank you.

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Added on September 16, 2009, 3:59 pm
This post has been edited by satnam182: Sep 16 2009, 03:59 PM

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/838998

he should know better than to put a remark with inclination to BLAME lowyat.net for his memory not uptodate?

seriously
a blind man in alaska also can feel what megablue is insinuating

the first like the the most common mistake
then came the line.. " I suppose LYN owe me a really good explanation".... i really

there are may types of rudeness
this is definitely one of it

From what I read:
This is not polite.
First the sarcastic comment, followed by stating that LYN should take full responsibility although masked with a question mark.
Than the word "OWE ME A REALLY GOOD explanation.

Opppss....wasn't that pointed out before by se7en?

Anyway, topic closed to prevent further unwanted conflicts arising.
If you guys have any disagreement; email helpdesk@lowyat.net