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owenwong84
post May 31 2006, 02:24 AM

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Halo all seniors here...
Wanna ask about the optional papers. I'm interested in audit and tax becoz the market widely need these service.
The problem is these 2 papers are most failure rate and my audit is not soso ok.

Performance measurement & BIM. What about it? These 2 subject can lead us to do wat post? If i take this 2, next time in working field can i audit? or do tax? Saw Coolly post, izzit related to management and finance?
Can anyone story your experience about this optional papers?
I need to submit my decision this coming Friday.....The lecturer didn't give so much info or introduction about the subject...just self intro and start lecture...wtf.

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post May 31 2006, 12:05 PM

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haih...so many people ask stupid repeating question in this thread...sigh,
the cost to take the entire cost around rm27k in sunway.
and the lecturer sucks, stupid,and dun even know what to spot for exam. if u plan to take the course,go kasturi..or else do your own search la..so simple thing also everyone ask so many time.


y do u say tat sunway is nt gud at all.....since they produced lotz n lotz of prize winners???? kasturi seemed 2 b an institutiion oni.....i dun und y u say sunway nt gud at all......d lecturers nt gud meh.......

any1 can help me bout d housin area for accomodation outside sunway coll??? thanx alot....
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post May 31 2006, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(nobuta @ May 30 2006, 10:54 PM)
then if i take the entire course in kasturi , how much is it ??
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pls go to kasturi college and get the price list and try to calculate roughly..
u need to understand that the price might change and increase from time to time and also depends on whether u want to take the revision class or not...

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QUOTE(owenwong84 @ May 31 2006, 02:24 AM)
Halo all seniors here...
Wanna ask about the optional papers. I'm interested in audit and tax becoz the market widely need these service.
The problem is these 2 papers are most failure rate and my audit is not soso ok.

Performance measurement & BIM. What about it? These 2 subject can lead us to do wat post? If i take this 2, next time in working field can i audit? or do tax? Saw Coolly post, izzit related to management and finance?
Can anyone story your experience about this optional papers?
I need to submit my decision this coming Friday.....The lecturer didn't give so much info or introduction about the subject...just self intro and start lecture...wtf.
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hello,
many ppl told me that taking 31 and 32 will be difficult and hard to pass and so many other opinion,but in my mind,if u think it is useful and also good for you,why too scare about the passing rate,no matter how many ppl fail,there are still people pass right?then why the person is not u?this is what i told myself when thinking whether wan to take the 2 papers or not,so i still go for it and try my best to pass that 2..and finally i manage to pass both at the 1st attempt...since u r interested,why not just go for it leh? icon_rolleyes.gif

yes,i believe u still can go for audit and tax even though u don take the 31 and 32,some people said that as long as u got the acca,it does not really matter whether what is ur option,i got a fren with 32 and 33 and now doing audit...and i do heard that for big firm,if u got 31 and 32 it will be a better position...
from my personal point of view,give u an example,if u got 2 candidates apply for an audit post,and u can only choose one,one with 31 and 32,and another 33 and 34,giving other factors remain similar,who will u choose?

even though the passing rate of the 33 and 34 can be higher than 31 and 32,but it does not mean that the chances of u to pass is high,say if u not intereted in those subject,how are u going to study it well and pass leh?i got frens failed 33 and 34 more than 1 time,so the passing rate really does not mean too much actually for me..it is all up to u whether how hard u work and how u study to pass the papers...

since i did not study 33 and 34,so i cannot give too much opinion about this 2 papers,but what i can share is 33 is part calculation and part theory,the content is more on finance and performance management,an advanced level of ur 2.4 performance mgt topic...and 3.4 is all about IT and Business,all is pure theory,u need to study many models and try to apply in the case given to u...in personal point of view,this paper i think did not bring too much practical view and it is further shown that acca is going to remove this papers in 2007 new syllabus,but my friend told me that if u just wan to pass disregard the knowledge ,then take this paper....

this is my advice and opinion lo...all the best to you...

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post May 31 2006, 12:32 PM

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housing rental : for hostel, both the apartment and condo rent price is stated at sunway's website (www.sunway.edu.my), do browse it. anyhow the cheapest for apartment hostel is rm200, 4 ppl sharing. cheapest for condo is like 420 or 440 (i forgot), 2 ppl sharing. both no aircon. but honestly the hostel rental is kinda expensive. for outside accomodation the nearest 1 is lagoonview condo (even nearer than sunway condo) but it's kinda expensive, at least above 600-800 for a single room. then there's palmville condo, few minutes walking distance from sunway cllg. the rent shld be about the same lagoonview (not very sure about the price sorry). if you think it's expensive you can opt to stay at lagoon perdana apartment which by walking distance is around 15 minutes i guess. but there are regular bus heading to and from sunway so no worry about transportation. 80 cent per trip if i ain't wrong. going to sunway is abit troublesome cos it ain't heading to there straight, but heading to lagoon perdana is a straight route. so i have frens staying there that rather walk to sunway cllg rather than waiting for the bus to make multiple stops before stoping at sunway cllg. rent is cheap there around rm300 for a single room. if you want streamyx and aircon then it's probably around rm350-450. if for a whole unit it's rm650 without furnish and rm1200 for fully furnish. alternatively there are other apartments here as well, like spectrum apartment n etc which is still around sunway but just not tat popular. or then you can opt to live at housing area. meaning renting a room in a house. the price is cheaper like that. my friend who rented one, his rent is just rm280. but bear in mind if you stay there it means no social life as there's no college mate to hang out with. it's be very very boring. trust me as my friend is starting to die soon out of boringness. seriously !
4get bout d exp condo...cz i cant afford 2 pay 4 it...hehe sweat.gif cry.gif
y stayin in housing area is boring wo??? if i stay wf my frenz le???

soul_project !!! wat u feel bout sunway?? izzit tat bad ??? or a gud place 2 study CAT-ACCA???? July intake is coming....plz help me rclxub.gif
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post May 31 2006, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(adrian999 @ May 31 2006, 12:05 PM)
y do u say tat sunway is nt gud at all.....since they produced lotz n lotz of prize winners???? kasturi seemed 2 b an institutiion oni.....i dun und y u say sunway nt gud at all......d lecturers nt gud meh.......

any1 can help me bout d housin area for accomodation outside sunway coll??? thanx alot....
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haha,he study in sunway sure he got his point of view and opinion...
in my opinion,prize winner is just individual effort,sunway has many does not mean it is good,who know the prize winner got take extra revision class outside or not..right?or maybe he or she is brilliant and just so happen he or she study in sunway,maybe he or she still get the prize if he or she study in kasturi... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

even though kasturi is an institute only,but so what?we study external papers,the most important is the the lecturers are good and able to deliver the lecture good and provide guidance to us,no matter it is school or college,what is so big deal about it?

unless u wan to enjoy campus life and other activities,then it is different story lo.. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(coolly @ May 31 2006, 12:36 PM)
haha,he study in sunway sure he got his point of view and opinion...
in my opinion,prize winner is just individual effort,sunway has many does not mean it is good,who know the prize winner got take extra revision class outside or not..right?or maybe he or she is brilliant and just so happen he or she study in sunway,maybe he or she still get the prize if he or she study in kasturi... rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif


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yeap.that's right...its an individual effort..who knows regularly he/she studying in sunway,but at the same time taking an extra class at kasturi..
i notice that last revision class for 2.4 andrew pang ,90% of the class is from sunway..so who's really produce the prize winner here?sunway or kasturi.. i would say the individual him/herself...&based on lecturer which is good for the person.. im myself from sunway,but i went to kasturi for 2.4 and most probably 3.2/3.3/ i would take outside sunway...but in the same time also study at sunway.. 3.2 at sunywa,quite boring..the same lect. teaches at mcorange..reason im join sunway is just because 2.5&3.6. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(HBK @ May 31 2006, 12:56 PM)
yeap.that's right...its an individual effort..who knows regularly he/she studying in sunway,but at the same time taking an extra class at kasturi..
i notice that last revision class for 2.4 andrew pang ,90% of the class  is from sunway..so who's really produce the prize winner here?sunway or kasturi..
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exactly...
90% student are from sunway..
wt fark with acca at sunway?it sucks..
student so call outsource the material and lecturer..
haiyo...why u guys now also ask this question...
read up the previous thread la..

exam is coming,make sure u guys dun go titanic...
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post May 31 2006, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(adrian999 @ May 31 2006, 12:05 PM)
y do u say tat sunway is nt gud at all.....since they produced lotz n lotz of prize winners???? kasturi seemed 2 b an institutiion oni.....i dun und y u say sunway nt gud at all......d lecturers nt gud meh.......

any1 can help me bout d housin area for accomodation outside sunway coll??? thanx alot....
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haih,i type until my finger want to putus edy..
when u enter the class for kasturi u will realise the different between sunway and kasturi..
sunway is providing the best facilities and environment amongst all the college...but the suckest education for acca...trust me..dun ask the same question again
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post May 31 2006, 04:08 PM

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sunway ar? got money then enrol lor..
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post May 31 2006, 08:01 PM

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Thanxx coolly, I will defanitely not choose BIM since it is so dangerous.
I failed my 2.4, hate audit, uhmmm.....I think i have to glance the topic.
Thanks again.
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QUOTE(owenwong84 @ May 31 2006, 08:01 PM)
Thanxx coolly, I will defanitely not choose BIM since it is so dangerous.
I failed my 2.4, hate audit, uhmmm.....I think i have to glance the topic.
Thanks again.
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haha..welcome...
just share with you only...
tax is really interesting and practical lo...
so i think maybe 3.2 u may choose lo...so now left with 31 and 33 only...
try to glance thru any books that u have about this 2 papers...

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post May 31 2006, 10:07 PM

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im studyat CAT paper 1 & 2 in kasturi nw .. and i found it's quite ok .. everything is going well .. i like the Paper 2 lecturer , Miss Goh .. she explains everything in details ..

actually , kasturi nt a bad place .. though u cant enjoy the campus life ..
i nvr study at sunway .. so hv no opinion ..

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QUOTE(virginslayer @ May 30 2006, 08:43 PM)
haih...so many people ask stupid repeating question in this thread...sigh,
the cost to take the entire cost around rm27k in sunway.
and the lecturer sucks, stupid,and dun even know what to spot for exam. if u plan to take the course,go kasturi..or else do your own search la..so simple thing also everyone ask so many time.
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people ask more becos they are doubtful
don't be a smart alex and call people stupid for asking questions ..
in the first place no one ask you to reply if you don't feel like doing so smartie

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QUOTE(adrian999 @ May 31 2006, 12:32 PM)
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4get bout d exp condo...cz i cant afford 2 pay 4 it...hehe sweat.gif  cry.gif
y stayin in housing area is boring wo??? if i stay wf my frenz le???

soul_project !!! wat u feel bout sunway?? izzit tat bad ??? or a gud place 2 study CAT-ACCA???? July intake is coming....plz help me rclxub.gif
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bullcrap la him .. it is not bad la ..
of cos i can't compare with others becos i haven't been to others ..
but although i've just been here for 2 months i have to say i really enjoy studying here
who knows if anyone has personal issues with sunway management hence the anti-sunway attitude rolleyes.gif
but if you wan to listen to his opinion ALONE then it's up to you ..
you can always ask for more opinions though ..
there's a sunway/monash thread at kopitiam section
most of them comprises of CAT & ACCA students ..
or you can also visit other forum for instance cari chinese forum (if you know how to read chinese) as there's sunway/monash thread as well as a detailed acca thread there ..

if stay with frens then like that it should not be that boring then ..
but then food how you go about it ?
you cook urself then ? because housing area wouldn't have much restaurant lying around ..

if you want more info you can add me at my msn peter_lml@yahoo.com
i'll be more than happy to assist
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actually sunway consider not bad for me,but then i heard those senior said that those experienced lecturer are getting less and less,is this true?
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I need Sunway 3.6 tips. Though I mostly give up on this subject.
I heard from my friend, a prize winner (paper 3.3) said Sunway 3.6 tips very accurate for past dew sitting!!


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haih,i type until my finger want to putus edy..
when u enter the class for kasturi u will realise the different between sunway and kasturi..
sunway is providing the best facilities and environment amongst all the college...but the suckest education for acca...trust me..dun ask the same question again



virginslayer r u from sunway???

ermmmm....i wana ask sumtin....is ther any prize winner at kasturi??? since their lecturers r v gud....they shud hv produced lotz n lotz of prize winners....so...it render diubtness 2 me....i noe kasturi is quite gud bt y their passing rate is lower than sunway??? weird weird weird....from the posts above...i was told tat ther r manny sunway students taking tuition classes at kasturi....mayb they oni wan2 get d notes as sunway notes r nt as gud as kasturi....

1 more ques....hows d schedule of lessons at kasturi?? will b b like sunway...o it will be held 2 o 3 times a week?? as i noe...sunway is having lessons almost eviday except 4 weekends.....having class eviday is quite important 2.....tis will deter us from being stayin in the lazy mood....n leave evitin last minute 2 prepare...in contrast....having class eviday wil encourage ppl 2 study from time 2 time....as u dun1 2 b left behind d rat race( 4 those hard-workin n aim 2 b prize winners students oni)

soul_project....r u from kl??? i duno anytin bout subang n sunway...since im nt a kl-ian....im from ipoh....plz help me....as now left oni 2 choices....sunway o kasturi....is d peer pressure at sunway v high?? i dun1 2 waste 2 much money.... sad.gif cry.gif cry.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif


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no la .. i'm from sabah 1 ..
at the moment for me the pressure is not there ..
but i know later on it'll be very high ..
seniors and lecturers also saying the same that after august there will be practically no life for us
but bring it on lo .. wat is there to afraid about
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QUOTE(adrian999 @ Jun 1 2006, 10:45 AM)
virginslayer r u from sunway???

ermmmm....i wana ask sumtin....is ther any prize winner at kasturi??? since their lecturers r v gud....they shud hv produced lotz n lotz of prize winners....so...it render diubtness 2 me....i noe kasturi is quite gud bt y their passing rate is lower than sunway??? weird weird weird....from the posts above...i was told tat ther r manny sunway students taking tuition classes at kasturi....mayb they oni wan2 get d notes as sunway notes r nt as gud as kasturi....

1 more ques....hows d schedule of lessons at kasturi?? will b b like sunway...o it will be held 2 o 3 times a week?? as i noe...sunway is having lessons almost eviday except 4 weekends.....having class eviday is quite important 2.....tis will deter us from being stayin in the lazy mood....n leave evitin last minute 2 prepare...in contrast....having class eviday wil encourage ppl 2 study from time 2 time....as u dun1 2 b left behind d rat race( 4 those hard-workin n aim 2 b prize winners students oni)

soul_project....r u from kl??? i duno anytin bout subang n sunway...since im nt a kl-ian....im from ipoh....plz help me....as now left oni 2 choices....sunway o kasturi....is d peer pressure at sunway v high?? i dun1 2 waste 2 much money.... sad.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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i know what u concern about,why everyone say lecturers are good but no prize winner,i think i mentioned earlier that prize winner is individual effort,kasturi got prize winner,but sometime u don't know only...and the other question is give u one example,if a sunway go to kasturi and take extra class then if he got prize winner,will he write sunway or kasturi?of coz sunway right?how u know the passing rate of kasturi is lower than the sunway,the passing rate normally not published out der...
so please don't judge a college that offer acca by its passing rate and also prize winner...and one thing also funny,u think sunway student really that kaya till take extra class and just to get the note without attending the class?there are so many ways to get the notes right without attending the class and pay? sweat.gif sweat.gif

basically as i know that kasturi not held class everyday for one paper lo...if u really think like what u said must attend class everyday like we attend secondary school,then maybe kasturi is not so suitable for u,but many of us study acca did not opt and think that way,this u must notice..acca is external exam,so u should not expect u r spoon feeded lo... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

erm,from what i saw u written,i think actually u r quite likely that u wan to choose sunway lo...not sure am i right or not? icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif hehe
maybe if i am correct,i can suggest u do like this,u study at sunway first lo,then maybe if u think not good or u think is good then u decide later want to study outside lo...now u haven;t start hor,sometime u also difficult to make up ur mind der lo.

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