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bebeq
post Sep 13 2009, 12:10 AM, updated 17y ago

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Listen up folks...

It is said that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Except when it is used to deceive people and rob them.

There have been replicas made of some of the higher-end Nokia models, in particular the 8800 sirocco 8800 Sapphire Arte and 8800 Carbon Arte, both of which have a £1000+ price tag on them in the Nokia Online store, and then sold on eBay represented as the original Nokia product being sold at a discount price.

This short guide should help you avoid falling into the trap that scammers have laid for you.

First of all, just look at the price. There's no such thing as a free lunch and if something looks too good to be true then there's a significant probability that it simply is too good to be true even for second hand . I recently saw multiple cases of people buying what they thought to be genuine Nokia 8800 sirocco 8800 Sapphire Artes and other 8 series but turned out to be Chinese fakes. One of them said that he paid $450 for his. Purely on that basis I would have left that phone well alone. $450 is less than a quarter of the phone's normal retail price and it therefore cannot be anything but a fake.

Secondly, the photos. Most online auction sites allow photos of the item for auction to be posted in order to give potential buyers an idea of what they're bidding for or buying . Always be wary of sellers who only provide photos that come directly from Nokia's Press Site. You are not seeing a photo of the actual device being sold, you are seeing generic photos used for publicity's sake. Insist on seeing photos of the phone being sold and if the seller doesn't want to send you any then walk away. Obtaining such photos serves a double purpose: firstly you get to see the actual phone. Secondly, you can return the phone as non-compliant if it is evidently not the phone on the photos that you were told were photos of it.

Thirdly, the IMEI number. The IMEI number is a 15-digit unique number that identifies the phone in question. Insist upon having it. Then go to this page, enter that IMEI number, and you will be told exactly what model phone has that IMEI number. If it's not the model that's being sold then the seller is trying to pull a fast one on you. Of course, it could be that the seller does communicate the IMEI number of an authentic Nokia phone to you but sends you a fake with a completely different IMEI number. In that case, the phone shipped to you is obviously different from the one promised and you can return it and annull the sale.

Fourthly, if the phone is being represented as the "Chinese version" then it almost certainly is a fake. Nokia does have a production plant in China so "Made in China" isn't at all grounds for rejection, but "Chinese version" is. While it's true that there is a genuine "Chinese" version of many Nokia phones (they have neither WiFi nor 3G capability as demanded by the Chinese government), it's not something a seller would shout about. If they do say that it's a "Chinese version" phone then the chances are that it's not a Nokia at all and it's more like a "Chinese fake".

The four points above assume you don't have access to the phone yet because you're buying it online through an auction site or just an online retailer. A few things you can look at if you can get your hands on it before buying are as follows.

All new Nokia phones respond to the code *#7780# entered on the keypad by asking you to confirm that you want to revert to factory settings and asking you for a lock code. If the phone you're looking at doesn't do this then it's not a Nokia.

Try and get the firmware version currently installed in the phone. To do this, enter *#0000# from standby. There's no way to validate formally the information you'll see but one thing that means the phone you're looking at definitely is a fake is the date of the firmware revision in Singapore format, MM-DD-YYYY, "02-22-2007" for example. If you're unsure, note down exactly what you see and ask on the Nokia Support Discussions forum.

Finally, This is for aLL nokia models ask if you can plug the phone into the USB socket of your laptop computer with the provided cable (assuming one is provided). There's no need to install any software on your laptop, all you want to see is how the phone reacts. A genuine Nokia phone, when connected to a USB port, will give you the options "Default mode", "Printing" and "Data storage" for some models and "PC Suite", "Mass storage", "Image transfer" and "Media transfer" for others. Or combinations thereof. Options frequently seen on fakes and never on genuine Nokias include "webcam" and "comport". If the phone you're looking at displays either of these two options then it's definitely a fake.

There are many risks involved with the purchase of an expensive piece of equipment like a high-end mobile phone. Many of them can be eliminated by not trusting auction sites with a reputation as shady in that area as the one that comes to mind first of all, who went on the record condoning the sale of counterfeit items in the name of "consumer choice". The risks diminish significantly if you purchase either online or in a real store but from somewhere that has a good reputation and a good returns policy. However, the only way to be 100% certain that you're getting the genuine article is to buy it directly from Nokia. If you do get yours from your mobile network operator then it will also be a genuine Nokia albeit tampered with by the operator.

Most of nokia

made in Korea and Made by Nokia ..there is no made in finland sticker)

[cool.gif Question :where is Nokia factories?

Networks technology
China
Finland
Germany (closing)
India

Mobile devices and technology
Brazil
China
Finland
Great Britain
Hungary
India
Mexico
Romania
South Korea



Check ur 15 digit imie number

http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr

Question : How about price? many of us wan make money for better life..but why without search anythin bank in money ? You think that u can make so much profit?

NO .u gonna lost what u got if you are greedy...Check out those scammers and be carefull next time before bank in
http://www.tonguechic.com/classifieds/375
http://dragon.my/index.php?option=com_adsm...d=116&Itemid=54

And many website like that ...once u see this kind of things u just close it without think..

Question : Whats ap set and original Set?

All nokia phones are same.. AP and original oversea set bla bla ..all same the diffrnt Warranty By nokia (local warranty as zitron avaxx sapura) under warranty period they can do everything for you

Question : How about oversea set warranty?

Any mobile phone that you take from diffrnt country only u can go the place that u bought they ll do it for you..but u take from uK of coz Nokia malaysia wont do anythin for you..simply they ll ask you to go back where u bought,,

Question : How about other countries price ?

A.T&T .Verizon, and other same Like maxis ..Phone same phone but they put their logo on the phone and their info their company warranty..sure u can get cheap with contract 1 year 2 year..its up to you..but sometimes i hear people say iphone in USA just 99$:) of coz they are payin 24 month so they get the phone for free but there is no such price anywhere around the world..

Even for Nokia...Nokia set the price before come out from Factory...Just about tax diffrent country got goverment tax so the price can be high or low..

Question : How about buy from Maxis with contract?

Its up to you wther u wan buy with contrat or not..You are the person goin to pay phone bill everymonth..but for myopinion better go buy from nokia or any other cell phone company coz u know how mch u r talkin on the phone every month..if u buy from the operator company every month u ll pay the bill that u signed up amount with the company..

so you talk or not talk the amount still same that u gonna pay..(recomended for who talk so mch on the phone)


Question : Whats the diffrn EURO spec and Asia spec?

Euro spec got better Lcd quality then asia spec... Language also diffrnt as europen language...others all same

Question :You wan buy phone that u dont know about spec ?

Simply go http://www.gsmarena.com/ ll help you for your question


Easy come always easy Go..... Do not Bank in money wich you dont know other wise u r the 1 who will be Stupid ..Cry bang ur head nothin will change after u lost ur money...So step right

wish Good business for Lowyat Members

This post has been edited by bebeq: Dec 6 2009, 11:16 PM
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post Sep 13 2009, 12:14 AM

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good post
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post Sep 13 2009, 12:24 AM

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rclxms.gif great post.

wanna add something...nowadays fake seller v clever.
1) they will post up a real phone pictures jus 2 get u.
2) if u ask for imei no. or any other serial, they will giv u a real no., that is to say they gt keep 1 real phone for backup to con ppl.

so, always cod to check for the phone, follow steps mentioned by TS, check code no., plug in cable to computer, etc.
if it does not satisfy u, u can walk away.

Mostly, fake product seller insist on postage, they will give u tons of reasons n say pictures n imei are real but they send u a fake product. Always becareful. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 13 2009, 12:32 AM

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@bebeq
Very very very very very very good post.
Thanks!
But i have a question
How To Differentiate Ori N97 and fake ones?
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post Sep 13 2009, 12:37 AM

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Good POST rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by hawk: Sep 13 2009, 12:37 AM
bebeq
post Sep 13 2009, 12:53 AM

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tnx all just try to share some info..
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post Sep 13 2009, 01:20 AM

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Good info bro, hopefully mods can pin this thread
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post Sep 13 2009, 01:26 AM

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yupppp....really2 gud post and gud info for us...keep up the gud work...

mods...pls pin this thread


Added on September 13, 2009, 1:28 am
QUOTE(RafaelNadal @ Sep 13 2009, 12:32 AM)
@bebeq
Very very very very very very good post.
Thanks!
But i have a question
How To Differentiate Ori N97 and fake ones?
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bro...try to get the imei of the phone then check it from nokia web...should be no problem to check there.. rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by Welll: Sep 13 2009, 01:28 AM
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post Sep 13 2009, 01:55 AM

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nice info bro..thanks
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post Sep 13 2009, 02:49 AM

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well done kawan...mice information given . THX smile.gif
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post Sep 13 2009, 02:56 AM

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Very useful, thank you laugh.gif
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post Sep 14 2009, 05:58 AM

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post Dec 6 2009, 07:16 PM

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tnx guys..hope is usefull
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post Dec 6 2009, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(bebeq @ Sep 13 2009, 12:10 AM)

[cool.gif Question :where is Nokia factories?

Hungary ,china ,india ,azerbeican.UEA.Finland (germany closing)
Just to add some information for the very informative information above,

1- there is no nokia factory in azerbaijan, afaik
2- there is also nokia factory in brazil (manaus)
3- as per said - germany factory is closing, and moved to romania (cluj)
bebeq
post Dec 6 2009, 10:28 PM

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Lol for sure nokia got factory in azerbaican.. yes german factory closng and moved to romania ... u should check again... and yes tnx for add brazil i forgt it..
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post Dec 6 2009, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(bebeq @ Dec 6 2009, 10:28 PM)
Lol for sure nokia got factory in azerbaican.. yes german factory closng and moved to romania ... u should check again... and yes tnx for add brazil i forgt it..
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This is information from Nokia website.

http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/company/faq

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Where does Nokia manufacture its products?
At the end of 2008, Nokia operated a total of 15 manufacturing facilities in Brazil, China, Finland, Germany, Hungary, India, Mexico, the Republic of Korea and the United Kingdom


see here also.

http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/company/production-units

List of Nokia manufacturing site (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia)

Brazil - Manaus
China - Beijing, Dongguan, Suzhou
Finland - Espoo, Oulu, Salo
Germany - Bochum (moved to Romania, Cluj)
Hungary - Komarom
India - Chennai
Mexico - Reynosa
Republic of Korea (South Korea) - Masan
United Kingdom - Farnborough

You can also browse to http://www.nokia.com, go to "Europe" - and u can find there is no "Azerbaijan" listed on that page.

There is Nokia Siemens Network in Azerbaijan, but Nokia Siemens Network is not a phone manufacturing company.

This post has been edited by DarkWan: Dec 6 2009, 11:12 PM
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post Dec 6 2009, 11:15 PM

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mm i think is mymistake maybe confuse with nokia siemns network.....tnx again for lettin me know about thse info...

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