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polarzbearz
post Apr 25 2024, 12:58 AM

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This thread suddenly derailed into stocks vs. properties laugh.gif (tho still an interesting read)


Let me try to bring it back on track and also leave a footprint here while at it since I haven't posted this in forums before (usually just updates on my blog) nod.gif

Came from a hardcore B40 family and frankly speaking, I got friggin' lucky and never would've thought that these were possible if you asked me about this 10-15 years ago. I only have my mom to thank - her insistence to send me to uni despite our financials (and I wasn't even grateful or helping her out back then) and she can now harvest her fruits (me) laugh.gif

Age: 32, Female
Occupation: IT kuli
Marital Status: Single with One Dependent (Parent) / No Kids

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~RM891K Net Worth, valued as of March 2024 rounded up to the nearest thousands. Could be more frugal, but happy with the current balance in life vs. savings

Asset(s):
Condo @ RM0 - I value it at RM0 since it's generating expenses rather than cash flow. It's a concept I took from Rich Dad Poor Dad tongue.gif. Controversial, yes, but I'm more comfortable this way. (Market Value probably RM400k-ish nett transaction fees)
Vehicle @ RM0 - it's just a piece of metal junk that gets me from point A to point B, 15 years and running!
Cash @ RM200K - includes all kind of random cash - be it in my Flexi Loan, FD / StashAway Simple / Overseas Cash / etc. Recently hoarded more than I'd personally like, but no choice since I need to spend these in short/mid term.
EPF (Passive) @ RM447K - passively managed EPF a.k.a our sweet sweet Conventional Portfolio with yearly dividends
EPF (Active) @ RM117K - actively managed EPF a.k.a i-Invest or withdraw-to-invest and try to outsmart EPF. And yes, I fared worse than EPF. Might as well kept it untouched. bye.gif
My "Freedom" Portfolio @ RM440K - ETFs, Stocks, FDs, and all random craps


Liability:
Mortgage Loan @ RM310K - been accelerating my payments since Dec 2023 before I make my next big move in my lifetime.

polarzbearz
post Apr 25 2024, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(skty @ Apr 25 2024, 02:15 AM)
hope you don't give up on stock market investment yet.  smile.gif
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I don't intend to, as I appreciate it's simplicity. Personally I'm too lazy/busy hence my main bread and butter are just passive ETFs which requires little to no monitoring, except when doing portfolio assessment for rebalancing

QUOTE(hksgmy @ Apr 25 2024, 02:51 AM)
Thank you for sharing! When I was about your age, I had just completed my specialist training and was skint as hell. I was lucky my wife was already working and she more than ably stepped up to the plate and shouldered the burden financially for both of us… including caring for my terminally ill mother whom we invited to come down to stay with us in Singapore.

I wouldn’t be here if not for these 2 women in my life. And since my mother has long passed on (sadly, barely tasting the fruits of her labour), it behooves me that I make sure my recently retired waifu enjoys the fruits of her sacrifices and we get to enjoy what remaining healthy years 2 persons in their early fifties have left in the journey of life.

My impending early retirement is a promise I intend to keep - she’s been second fiddle to my patients and my career for so long, I have the rest of my life to make it up to her.
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Thank you for sharing your inspiring story, I can only imagine the stress on those early days for both you and your wife. And yes, definitely should harvest the fruits now. Afterall we only get to live once.

Sorry to hear about your loss, very unfortunate in your mother's case. Frankly speaking this is one of my biggest fear that holds me back from time to time. Wanting to allow my mom to enjoy more of her fruits. Me buying property for her/our own stay was one of them, to help her complete a dream that she had to give up for my studies. (Personally, I disliked the idea of strapped cashflow, though I have nothing against property investment as its known to also be one of the profitable vehicles for those that does it right. Each of their own specialties in the end laugh.gif)

polarzbearz
post Apr 25 2024, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(bogletails @ Apr 25 2024, 10:24 AM)
Hey Gracie, have been a followers on your IG and blog. Nice work and very inspiring. But I Always have this question wanted to ask: how did you have so much in epf? Did you self contribute it or it's all compulsory deposit from salary? Half a million in EPF at 31 years old seems crazy, unless you're earning 20k above monthly for the past few years
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Hey bogletails, hasn't been as active as I'd like recently but thank you for the support!

I say it openly everytime I get asked that question (even in DM's or in my blog): LUCK.

I got extremely lucky at work. My last 10 years in life has been nothing except for work, work and work, and I was lucky to get promotions after promotions in a rather competitive and cruel corporate world, hence the money came in naturally.

Most of the growth are tied to the increase in my income sources - be it from work or doing adhoc stuff. Employer also contribute a few percentage above statutory contributions rate so that snowballed rather quickly as well as I grew my career.

Do I fully enjoy the work? Probably not, but I'll keep going at it while I still can as it opens up options for me to reconsider the life that I want to have in the future.
polarzbearz
post Apr 25 2024, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 25 2024, 12:44 PM)
beautiful story, well done sis.

real networth should be close to 1.5 mil, but i see someone very humble here  smile.gif

hard work never disappoint, and yes, we need luck in life. those who deny the presence of luck is just kidding themselves.

remain thankful everyday  :thumbsup:
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Apr 25 2024, 02:13 PM)
Awesome read. Great blog too. I wish you all the best in your freedom journey  biggrin.gif
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notworthy.gif thank you both. Yes indeed, grateful for what I have and will continue to be so.

polarzbearz
post Apr 25 2024, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 25 2024, 05:40 PM)
An update:

KWSP - RM179.9k
Equities - RM347.9k
Cash - RM12.9k
ILP - RM12.6k
Bond - RM40.5k

Credit card - RM26.9k

Total - RM566.9k

Home MV ~RM470-500k / Remaining HL RM447k
Car MV ~RM60-65k / Remaining HP RM64k

* Will exclude these from net asset computation, the MV (slightly conservative) just about covers the remaining loan amount.

Age - 30 y/o

Target RM1mil net worth by 35, and RM1mil in EPF by 40 (purely from employment, except self-contribution <RM3k p.a. to meet the tax benefit as long as it's available). At the moment, despite life throwing some curveballs (RM40k in unexpected expenses in the last 6 months), still on track.
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Thank you for sharing! And by having a clear target and plan ahead, you're already doing so much better than majority of Malaysians. Well done rclxms.gif
polarzbearz
post Apr 26 2024, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Apr 25 2024, 09:23 PM)
It’s a bit early for a full update (after all, barely 6 months passed since I added my little contribution into this thread, but quite a bit has changed since then, so it’s worth making an amendment to better reflect the reality.

I’ve sold off quite a fair chunk of my residential properties in Sydney and Melbourne, and I’m now down to only 1 holiday home in Melbourne and 1 in Sydney, in addition to my primary residence there. The reason was an impending rumoured tax change that would severely penalize me if I’m unable to fulfil residency requirements and if any of the apartments are let untenanted (which they can be at times, due to us being rather picky with potential tenants). The ATO has also imposed an additional tax for non-tax residents (since I don’t fulfil the criteria of more than 181 days in Australia) for residential properties…. It was getting painful to see a huge chunk of my rental returns going to the ATO.

So, I’ve aggressively switched portfolios into medical suites and commercial properties. We just picked up another suite recently and now we hold 4 such suites, all tenanted out to long term anchor tenants. Should have done this years ago and saved myself a tonne of grief.

Also, my initial estimation of monthly expenditure has been rendered null and void just in the span of the last 6 months.

As some of you might know, we’ve been travelling back and forth Sydney nearly on a monthly or once 2 monthly basis - and that’s usually on minimum business class and more often than not, First or Suite class. Ticket prices have also exploded exponentially since the Covid reopening. Each ticket costs SGD10,000 return, and that unfortunately quickly adds up.

The wife and I have also been quite indulgent in our pursuit of taking as many Michelin starred restaurants in Singapore as possible. This is with a view of us retiring to Sydney at the end of the year and we want to say that we’ve ticked this item off our bucket list before the permanent move.

We now eat at Michelin starred restaurants once or twice a week, and each time, the average bill is at least SGD500, sometimes closer to SGD1000.

So the new narrative looks more like the one below:

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Liabilities:

2 vehicles in Singapore, loan-free: the Macan cost me SGD380,000 & her S450L was SGD608,888 when new

2 vehicles in Sydney, paid for in cash: the Cayenne cost me AUD180,000 and the 911 Carrera GTS was nearly AUD400,000

Usual monthly outgoings around SGD50,000 (Fine Dining, travels, discretionary spending etc)

Income, rental and property taxes in Singapore and Australia and property & rental taxes in New Zealand.
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Thanks for sharing, really hats off and salute to have come such a long way. Definitely a dream lifestyle that many of aspire to have! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
polarzbearz
post Apr 26 2024, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(jyll92 @ Apr 26 2024, 08:49 AM)
Very good and transparent trackable portfolio. nice to meet you. I have a 7 years trackable portfolio at 17.6% CAGR
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That's a very impressive return! I don't use CAGR but IRR (to be specific, XIRR) and barely caught up to KWSP returns sweat.gif
polarzbearz
post Apr 26 2024, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Maniee27 @ Apr 26 2024, 03:24 PM)
great blog, thanks for sharing.

mind if i ask what tools did u use to visualize this?
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Just plain old excel tongue.gif
polarzbearz
post Apr 28 2024, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Apr 27 2024, 09:38 PM)
Surprisingly, once the housing is taken care of in Australia ( and thankfully we got on the property ladder decades ago before prices went batshit insane), things are actually pretty affordable compared to Singapore.

As long as you’re willing to cook yourself, which we intend to (that’s why we’re hitting the Michelin joints in Singapore so hard at present - get our fix before the big move over haha), the cost of groceries and fresh produce is around 1/2 or 2/3 of Singapore prices for way better quality food.

Healthcare is essentially free, and I get to keep my Porsches until their wheels fall off without having to renew the COEs.

To me, personally, Australia is cheap.
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Haven't physically lived in AU except for holidays, but when I did my simulation to assess the financials impact, I noticed the same. If excluding the property, everything else (cost of living wise) is really cheap, epecially groceries (in local currencies without conversion lah).

QUOTE(skty @ Apr 28 2024, 12:55 AM)
Nah. I don't agree with what you said that most professional white-color jobs required physical presence.

Anyway, I know many and I encouraged many to go through this path and initially they did it as part time but at the end the income increased sufficiently overtaking as their main income.

Heck I even have a colleague who quit his professional job and pursue his talented artwork once the USD he is getting consistently exceeded his full time job salary.

There is some even special cases that I know. One of the example is one of my friend applied job in Shell Malaysia got rejected. She then apply Shell USA and get employed but based in Shell MY. And yeah, they pay her in USD. Amazing.  biggrin.gif

anyway, this is my 2 cents and my intention is to break up the mindset that many are trapped in and encourage more people to explore in this.

once one's get to see things, it's mind blowing how wonder the world works. "Macam ni pun boleh a?"
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On physical presence though, especially for engagement-related works, as much as I hate socializing physically (being an introvert myself), I can't deny the advantages that physical meeting has over a virtual ones. The experience is REALLY different, even in corporate world. Most of the major decisions/discussions/influencing factors came from informal "coffee chat" or over "dinner time" rather than formal meetings where people tend to have reserves / play their politic games. But having said that - definitely agree that it is not required for 100% of the time. Key thing is to strike the right balance, in my view.

As for opportunities - definitely agree that it's everywhere and we just gotta keep an open mind for any kind of possibilities and opportunities. Limiting factor starts from our very own beliefs nod.gif Can't help but to ponder why sometimes people react negatively when they see someone else being more successful than them - rather than taking it as a source of inspiration. Mind really do work wonder when we feed it with the right beliefs. flex.gif
polarzbearz
post Jul 12 2025, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Jul 11 2025, 10:20 AM)
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Something doesn't add up here for sure laugh.gif Not sure which HSBC analyst was high on.

Don't know about other countries, but numbers for HKD and SGD doesn't seem to make sense, especially Hong Kong's crazy cost of living sweat.gif Malaysia will definitely cost at least 2x to 3x less than these two...

 

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