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 How much is your net worth?, gauging your financial performance.

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motherlover
post Sep 6 2013, 03:22 AM

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Age: 26 (male)
Self-employed/business

Assets
Properties: 2 - RM300k + RM550k
Cash in hand/savings: RM40k
EPF: RM20k (quit my job to run my business)
Personal Insurance: RM4.8k (only started buying this year)
Business assets: RM30k

Liabilities
Home Loans: RM580k combined outstanding
No other debts/loan repayments

Networth +-: RM300k?


I know it isn't much, but I started from nothing 4 years ago after graduating. I started with property, acquiring the first one at a good deal back in 2010, second one only this year. Other than that, I felt that I did not have sufficient "bullets" to venture into other investments just yet as my business was just taking off before this (dare not spend $$ elsewhere just in case). Now I feel that I really should diversify my portfolio with this somewhat decent amount that I've saved up, but I'm not sure which to go for. UT? Share market? Forex? Gold/Silver?

Furthermore, the market is rather volatile and bearish at the moment, which makes me feel that perhaps my timing isn't right. But then again, I do not have any experience in other fields of investments.

I make about 6k to 8k net profit average per month from my business (after deducting my own expenses), and I have no other commitments except my home loan at 2.2k per month. Proton is fully paid off 2nd hand car. But I have no FD and such. All only in savings and current account. Therefore I always end up dumping the extra cash back into my business to grow it. Sometimes I manage to make more, sometimes not. But ROI is about 20 to 30% on average.

Any advice on how I should diversify my portfolio, kind sirs?
motherlover
post Sep 13 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(motherlover @ Sep 6 2013, 03:22 AM)
Long time reader, first time poster.

Age: 26 (male)
Self-employed/business

Assets
Properties: 2 - RM300k + RM550k
Cash in hand/savings: RM40k
EPF: RM20k (quit my job to run my business)
Personal Insurance: RM4.8k (only started buying this year)
Business assets: RM30k

Liabilities
Home Loans: RM580k combined outstanding
No other debts/loan repayments

Networth +-: RM300k?
I know it isn't much, but I started from nothing 4 years ago after graduating. I started with property, acquiring the first one at a good deal back in 2010, second one only this year. Other than that, I felt that I did not have sufficient "bullets" to venture into other investments just yet as my business was just taking off before this (dare not spend $$ elsewhere just in case). Now I feel that I really should diversify my portfolio with this somewhat decent amount that I've saved up, but I'm not sure which to go for. UT? Share market? Forex? Gold/Silver?

Furthermore, the market is rather volatile and bearish at the moment, which makes me feel that perhaps my timing isn't right. But then again, I do not have any experience in other fields of investments.

I make about 6k to 8k net profit average per month from my business (after deducting my own expenses), and I have no other commitments except my home loan at 2.2k per month. Proton is fully paid off 2nd hand car. But I have no FD and such. All only in savings and current account. Therefore I always end up dumping the extra cash back into my business to grow it. Sometimes I manage to make more, sometimes not. But ROI is about 20 to 30% on average.

Any advice on how I should diversify my portfolio, kind sirs?
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Taiko-taikos, any advice?
motherlover
post Nov 6 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 13 2013, 05:13 PM)
Let said your earning  rm6k - 8k, profit...i believe you have deduct everything is your net income.

Mortgage Loan is rm2.2k. is long term liability you wont settle in short term except you got big project settle all your debts.

What you have rm6k - rm2.2k = rm3.8k

Is your mortage is Full Flexi/Semi Flexi mortgage ? You can pay more toward and also flexi able withdraw when you needed.
Allocate paying more to mortgage of rm1k. You able to reduce the paying term of 10 year, when you don't withdraw.
Since your income based on business, i prefer reserve more cash in flexi loan for contingency of business unexpected. You save extra interest.

Leaving you rm2.8k. after deduct/Minus Mortgage + Extra of mortgage buffer.
May think to use rm1.8k either for UT, Stock diversify your egg, rather allocated in single basket.
How to allocated depend how many investment/saving your like 50%UT - 50%Stock /  60%UT - 40% stock / 40%UT - 40%stock -20%FD.
I never treat FD as investment, but as temporarily to use when there opportunity when there is Financial Correction aka crisis.
About investment maybe variable to each individual either UT or stock have high risk/opportunity growth or low risk/stable income.
If want exact to invest, then you need to study each investment which have cons and pro that meet your personality or profile.
Leaving your rm1k..for you to spend with i believe is sufficient. Without gadget, gf, beer time..you can save much more.

Hope you don't mind deduct the saving/ asset/liability first leaving you the amount is your real expenses/surviving for own self.

It juz suggestion of different ppl, may not the same with other or agree by own self. icon_rolleyes.gif

By the way, even i older few year..my asset & income not as more of you.
Becoz i juz a slave worker..never take a big hat to wear...becoz my head very small to think.
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Thanks and sorry for the late late reply hahaha been a busy busy 2 months (haven't had time to check the forum at all).

Actually my monthly savings of RM8k is already after deducting all loan repayments and bills already. So that RM6k to RM10k (on a good month) is clean clean profit/savings. Recently a month back I managed to start investing into some UT funds already, contributing RM2k monthly. So now I think like you mentioned, it would be good to diversify the eggs, maybe to go into stocks or REITs, which I have nearly no knowledge of (yet!).

I've yet to actually have an FD account, all this while all my cash either in savings or current account (for business sake), and the extra cash already invested into both those properties. Now that everything is nearly stabil again (after all the money going out for props), I'm looking for take the $$ out from my savings and into other more profitable investments. Hence the earlier post lol

Don't say head big or small lah bro, both (working and business) also got equal pro and cons, in fact I've been working longer than I've been doing my business on my own (work 3 years, fully on business only about 1 year although business started a couple of years ago). But thank you for your kind feedback!
motherlover
post Nov 6 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 13 2013, 07:57 PM)
if u are disciplined, put in a consistent amount of $$ monthly into a UT, medium-risk fund.

or else, buy Reits (google it) every month, and get consistent dividend every year.

by the way, good job hving your own business at 26 and 2 properties too. thumbup.gif
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Thanks! Been away for a couple of busy months (the forum I mean tongue.gif) but in that time, I finally managed to engage a UT agent and started to put my $$ into a fund. I know about REITs but never really learned more in-depth (same goes for stocks), but will definitely explore that one next. Thankiu thankiu thumbup.gif

 

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