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 How much is your net worth?, gauging your financial performance.

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kelvinlym
post Sep 6 2011, 05:17 PM

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A lot of us tend to make financial resolutions such as: I want to make/save more money than I have last year.

I read somewhere that this is ineffective as there is no solid target. Make a resolution such as I want to increase my net worth by 1% per month. Then make records every month and track your progress.

I've been doing this since last year and it's really fun and informative. It gives a perspective of seeing your debts decrease while your assets increase. It's achievable enough yet rewarding. 1% per month translates to about 12.6% a year.

I'm trying to stay on track this year but getting a car since last year makes it difficult.
kelvinlym
post Sep 6 2011, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 6 2011, 10:44 AM)
rclxms.gif ideas and wants are intangible.
When put on paper, planned, executed and tracked - then it becomes tangible and real through one's focus.

IMHO - i wonder why most people do KPIs, goal settings, annual management budget, etc. in their professional lives & management but not personal - these make one heckuva growth boost if applied to personal management too.

Bro, just a thought - in addition to your monthly net worth growth/shrinkage tracking (which is like a company's balance sheet), U may also want to track your personal Debt/Equity and Acid Test ratio. Easy to see whether the biz of your life is highly geared (dangerous if there's any hiccups) and abilitiy to pay back at an instance - like a "management cockpit"  brows.gif
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Great insights there. Thanks.

My only long term debt is the car. However, the loan is insured in case of my inability to repay. It sure is an illogical purchase, but dang it's worth every cent.

60% of my assets are also liquid or at least easily liquidated (stocks).

Age: 28

Assets:

Car: EUR 26k (value to be linearly amortized over 5 years)
Cash: EUR 7k + RM 10k
Stocks/funds/bonds/options/money market: EUR 33k + RM 50k

Liabilities:
Loan: EUR 20k

Net: EUR46k + RM60k


kelvinlym
post Apr 8 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(noprogambler @ Apr 8 2013, 09:02 AM)
This thread is a bit show off wink.gif .

But since I am an anonymity, I would like share my information tongue.gif .

Age: 30 (Single)
Monthly Income: RM5,500 (Gross EPF & Tax)
Monthly Estimated Expenses: RM4,000
Expected Yearly Bonus: RM11,000 (about 2-month year end bonus of which I have been rewarded in the past year)
Expected Yearly Dividend Income: RM4,000 (2% dividend yield of the shares portfolio of which I have been receiving in the past years) <-- this should be RM10,000, forget to count in the 2% DY on the RM300,000 shares bought through share margin
Expected Yearly Savings: RM30,000 <-- should be RM24,000, with additional 2% DY on the RM300,000 shares bought through share margin, forget to build in the share margin interest sweat.gif

EPF: RM60,000

Assets:
Unit Trust: RM2,500
Shares: RM500,000
House: RM100,000 (the house is fully paid and its market price is estimated to be RM200,000, shared 50% with my brother)
Land: RM300,000 (market price)
Total Assets = RM902,500

Liabilities:
Car Mortgage: RM41,000 (another 48-month installments)
Share Margin Facilities: RM300,000
Total Liabilities = RM341,000

Net Assets = RM561,500
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You forgot to add your car value as an asset. However, the value should be amortized, unless your car has current value of zero.
kelvinlym
post Apr 8 2013, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(noprogambler @ Apr 8 2013, 10:15 AM)
In my view, car is not an asset so I write off it from the asset. In addition, I exclude EPF as well, because I don't trust EPF can return my money fully when I retire as long as the exist of the current government which keeps forcing EPF to its fund to unguaranteed bonds.
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If you are writing it off, then that's fine. It's always better to be conservative. smile.gif

I still have my car on my assets, but amortized linearly over 5 years because I paid it in cash.

kelvinlym
post Apr 10 2013, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 10 2013, 07:38 AM)
Wherever I go , people talk about investments.

Sounds like the  market is reaching  the peak liao
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When wet market aunties are talking about shares, then the market is peaking.

FYI to beginners in stock investing, cheap doesn't mean the price itself is low. Learn about market cap, P/E ratios etc before evaluating a company on it's price alone.

Would you invest in a stock at a price of RM10 and P/E of 10 or a stock at RM20 and P/E of 5, considering both companies sell the same product with each having market share of 50%?
kelvinlym
post Apr 10 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 10 2013, 09:15 AM)
I wont buy, else the stock "SongLap" me to the longkang.
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It depends, if done due diligence, could be an investment. I cashed out my Baidu shares in 2010 after they announced their stock split. I made some money due to the increased liquidity of the stock. It was a pure speculative play contrary to my value investing principles. My research shown Baidu was market leader in China, so risk was low. However, I don't trust much on China companies anymore nowadays.

Of course PE is not everything, but if you consider 2 stocks with the same risks, wouldn't you buy the one with lower PE? smile.gif

I'm currently looking at the Osram spin off.
kelvinlym
post Apr 10 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 10 2013, 10:06 AM)
Last time there was a very cheap low PE co listed in Bursa,  heavily promoted by some analysts as very good.

I highlighted that this co  had 1 to 2 years of uncollected debts. ( money owing to them.)

Touch wood, 1 year later or so, company got delisted by Bursa.

I also feel sori for them. notworthy.gif
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That's why I never trust analysts, Malaysia's stock market and KLSE.
kelvinlym
post Apr 10 2013, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 10 2013, 10:50 AM)
Cannot say  only Malaysia  got problems lah  ..HerbaLife in US is now facing problems too.

Many stories going on there . Some more auditors gave insiders news to others to short sell shares.
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I'm not saying other countries are problem/scandal free. I'm saying I don't trust the regulation authorities in Malaysia, the low volume of shares traded in KLSE and how manipulation-prone they are.
kelvinlym
post Apr 11 2013, 07:17 PM

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Just to stay on topic, how do you guys track your net worth performance?

I have a simple spreadsheet. It's nice to see the growth on a graph. I'm averaging 2% every month.
kelvinlym
post Apr 12 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 12 2013, 12:44 AM)
2% EVERY MONTH..........for how long now?

At this rate your net worth will surpass WB very soon..............
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2% is a 12month moving average. There are peaks and valleys of course, e.g. when I bought my car when I turned 28 or when my company paid compensation to me.

Overall since 2010 when I started to keep records my net worth grew by 267% not including my funds in Msia.

It will be tougher to keep my target of 2% a month due to law or large numbers. I'll be re-evaluating this goal middle of this year when my wife starts to move in with me. I foresee modest 1% growth per month is sustainable.

Currently my monthly spend is less than 30% of my nett pay, investments yield a modest avg 10% per annum according to last 4 yrs. My monthly savings will most likely stay the same once my wife moves in, offset by lower taxes. One off expenditure will increase however, as I need to pay for travel and holidays. I need to reduce that impact by eating more at home and savings from cooking and buying for 2.

This post has been edited by kelvinlym: Apr 12 2013, 03:52 PM
kelvinlym
post Sep 13 2013, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Sep 6 2011, 11:04 AM)
Great insights there.  Thanks.

My only long term debt is the car.  However, the loan is insured in case of my inability to repay.  It sure is an illogical purchase, but dang it's worth every cent.

60% of my assets are also liquid or at least easily liquidated (stocks).

Age: 28

Assets:

Car: EUR 26k (value to be linearly amortized over 5 years)
Cash: EUR 7k + RM 10k
Stocks/funds/bonds/options/money market: EUR 33k + RM 50k

Liabilities:
Loan: EUR 20k

Net: EUR46k + RM60k
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Update as of 15 Aug 2013

Age: 30

Car: 13.5k (real value 22k appraised by dealer)
Cash: EUR 6k + ~RM10k
Stocks/funds/bonds/options/money market: EUR 75k + RM 52k

Liabilities:
Loan: EUR 8.5k

Net: EUR 86k + ~RM60k

Just married (sorry ladies) and started looking into real estate. My goal is to reach EUR 100k by year end (realistic but tough).

 

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