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groggy
post Jan 26 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 26 2011, 10:42 AM)
Here goes mine, pls comment:

Age: 48
Salary: 350k p year

Properties: 2.5m  (no loan)
Cash: 500k
Rental income : Approx 45k p year
Preciousmetals/commodities:  2m
Stock mkt: 1m
EPF: 1m
Insurance- Accident-2.2m.....Life......1.5m.....hospitalisation

2 kids- 16yrs & 12yrs

i need to provide 1 m each for their education.

Hows my portfolio?
Can i retire by 56 yrs old?

TIA
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May I know how you invest 2m in commodities?

groggy
post Jan 27 2011, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 26 2011, 10:42 AM)
Here goes mine, pls comment:

Age: 48
Salary: 350k p year

Properties: 2.5m  (no loan)
Cash: 500k
Rental income : Approx 45k p year
Preciousmetals/commodities:  2m
Stock mkt: 1m
EPF: 1m
Insurance- Accident-2.2m.....Life......1.5m.....hospitalisation

2 kids- 16yrs & 12yrs

i need to provide 1 m each for their education.

Hows my portfolio?
Can i retire by 56 yrs old?

TIA
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I don't know what is the commodities 2m. Ignoring that, you have 5m. Even if deduct 2m for education, you have 3m. 8 years left to 56 yr old. If save 200k per year, will get another 2m. Minimum 5m by 56 yr old. Even if earn 5% on it also got 250k. Yes, you can retire by 56 yo. But I am sure you already know that. tongue.gif

groggy
post Jan 27 2011, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(126126 @ Jan 24 2011, 05:08 PM)
have read this thread with interest.

Here goes mine, pls comment:

Age: <35
Salary: not fixed. But say >700k pa
Field: Own business
Properties: 16m (Loan 13m).
Cash: 2m
Rental income : Approx 300k pa
FD + Unit trust: 200k
Stock mkt: 40k
EPF: 300k
Monthly instalments: 45k (cars + prop)

What would u do if you are in my position? have 3 kids all below 6. can retire or not?
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700k pa is a lot of money. Not many ppl earn that much I am sure. May I know what sort of business you r doing? Like retail, manufacturing or wholesaling? Types of products. tongue.gif

I am also sure retirement is also not in your mind. You are just asking for fun. Who would retire earning 700k pa? Continue to earn another 10 years. Retire at 45 lah.

By the way, I think 2m cash is OK considering your properties exposure of 16m. Well done! You are truly the highest achiever in this forum. rclxms.gif

groggy
post Jan 27 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(126126 @ Jan 27 2011, 03:20 PM)
I can assure you there are a lot of bigger fishes who are worth much much more than me logging into LYN. I know because i know their portfolio and have met them in real life.

I can also assure you the money i make is not a lot. When you meet enough ppl, you will know that there are many many more ppl who pull in moneys till it flows out from their ears.

I am asking if i should retire because my job is not easy. There is no free lunch in this world my friend. After awhile, you realise that money is not everything.


Added on January 27, 2011, 3:33 pm

Dont be so sour bro. Wait till you meet those founders of those start-ups techies who listed their counters in Mesdaq during the boom time few years back. Read up on their prospectus. You will know how much they make even after creative accounting.

If I am top dev's children, you think i will be bothered with how much i make? I would simply just wait for my inheritance.
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C'mon, how hard can it be? There is no hardship that cannot be endured. Don't use it as an excuse my fren. There are many ppl enduring real hardships in life.

groggy
post Mar 1 2011, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(johnrck99 @ Feb 27 2011, 09:37 PM)
hi all,

can you comment on my situation? please provide some opinion as i wish to learn from some of you.

Properties

1. Link House-0 out of KL. RM250k (Outstanding Loan RM50k)
2. Condo-KL RM250k (Outstanding Loan RM200k)

Cars
1. Japanese car old RM 45k (outstanding loan RM24k)
2. Japanese car RM150k (outstanding loan RM90k) for my gf use

FD + Loose cash RM210k

My concern is my salary is used empty every month to service the loan for the above 4 items and my lifestyle..
I left only saving of few hundred RM every month...

I know u will suggest that pay off some loan but I will get penalty for the Link House (RM6k)
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Lucky gf!

groggy
post Apr 10 2011, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(michaellee @ Apr 10 2011, 12:47 AM)
Allow me to answer some of the above. EPF is part of your wealth, so why not? I believe you need MRTA more than life insurance, especially with your low cash holdings. I personally believe you need to be more discipline in the next few months to save more and to apportion some into FD as well.

No, you do not need to convert your properties into a Sdn Bhd. The costs involved is not worth the hassle. Plus the act has been changed recently that expenses for that unit can only be deducted against the rental for that unit unlike previous property investments companies. So no tax benefit. The only benefit would for succession but you are still young so no need to think too much about it.


Added on April 10, 2011, 1:06 am

Without knowing your monthly cash flow, it is not easy to work out an ideal but let me give it a try.

Your Condo A installment seemed to be on the high side, you might want to consider asking the bank to reduce your interests (currently the market rate should be BLR -2.3 to -2.5. It is yielding around 5% without taking into account of your management fees and other outgoings, so the yield could be potentially lower.  Personally for me, 5% yield is very low. Since you have quite a number of properties, I believe you do want to build up your passive income then you seriously need to reconsider your property investment strategies. An ideal yield should be around 8% or more.

Your Condo B seemed okay but again yield is on the low side.

Condo C, even if it is not fully paid up is yielding good at around 8% (sorry cannot be bothered using calculator.. hehehe)

D, cannot comment since no data.

Being in the sales line a big part of your salary would be commission base, so there are some risks but I am sure you know how to take care of yourself.

Overseas Land banking in my book does not work, so I personally would suggest moving the investment to other more profitable investments. Palm oil I believe would be country heights scheme? coz for RM25k, you cannot even buy 1 acre of palm oil land. It is okay to invest in this for diversification but i won't suggest you into putting more money into it. Wawasan is paying good interests, so it is handy to keep some. UT is something I do not favour as I would personally advise people to buy blue chip shares. You get more dividends and possible capital appreciation.

Info I need: who owns what? condo A, B... so that you can plan your property investment better for future. What is your net cash (income minus all expenses beside your rental income).

In summary from the info I can see, I believe your most important goal is to build up your cash.
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Hi Michael,

When you say yield is low, how do you make it higher if it is already rented out at market rate? Do you recommend maybe fully furnish it to up the yields?

Thanks
groggy
post May 4 2011, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(bahamas @ May 4 2011, 10:37 PM)
As I don't stay in KL currently, I would like to rent my condom (if i have one).

given the condom prices now,  most of the return (rental / condom price)  is around  5% or less .

I don't see buying a condom is a good choice because many investment can give me a 5% yearly return.
In addition, the appreciation of condoms is getting slow. as a risk adverse investor,
I afraid that i might be the last one "to get on cars"....
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I think condo sounds better than condoms. brows.gif

Btw, why do you put so much money in savings account? the interest is so low. May i know how you saved such a tidy sum of money? notworthy.gif

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post Sep 7 2011, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 5 2011, 07:30 AM)
i am 49 years young.

Using Wong's spreadsheet

Assets

a) Fixed Income = 1.6 mil
b) Stocks, Equities = 1.2 mil
c) Investment Properties = 0.9mil 
d) Alternate = 1.35 mil

Liability

a) property = 0.15 mil

Income = 25k per month

Insurance = 1.2mil life cover

i plan to send my two children 12 and 16 years for overseas studies. - set aside Rm1mil each present value.
Plan to retire 58 years old with annual expenditure of Rm120k present value.

Is this achievable?
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Hi prophetjul,

I am very curious how you can accumulate wealth of rm4.9mil excluding your house on an income of 25k per month. Care to share how much you earn say at 40 year old?
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post Oct 14 2011, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Oct 13 2011, 09:31 PM)
Thanks.. actually bank help me a lot, always use bank paper to get bank money to make money... just sacrifice a little bit on bank charges... I'm referring to SBLC & LC...
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bank paper referring to bank paperwork?

What is SBLC and LC?

And, when did you start this business?

Thanks and good job!

 

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