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 How much is your net worth?, gauging your financial performance.

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Lembu Goreng
post Aug 18 2023, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Aug 18 2023, 05:54 PM)
I hope it is not my lack of imagination. But most probably yes.

I don't know what illness one can endure that will cost more than 1 million ringgit to treat per year. Brain surgery only 200K toppish. Heart surgery also.
But I remember seeing  1 month Covid hospital bill comes out to be 400K rm.

The other point is: would you be able to live after that?
insurance is for protection and outlier events. Ask agents they would say more insurance better.
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I dunno man, if need to pay more than 500k I think I prefer to die


Lembu Goreng
post Aug 18 2023, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Aug 18 2023, 08:24 PM)
That’s why need insurance 1m. Just in case. But they all cover till age 100. After that need government hospital or have to draw down from capital 😰
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Nah i’ve set aside 500k cash for any major medical issues, like i said if need more than 500k just let me die lah

Also i know some cases even if you have 1m insurance, the insurance can just reject your claim due to ‘technicalities’. So their 1m insurance is not even worth 1 sen

So i prefer having cash

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Lembu Goreng
post Aug 18 2023, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(hedfi @ Aug 18 2023, 11:18 PM)
Why don't make insurance work. Why use personal 500k iso. pooling resources. Your insurance maybe cost you only 50k
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I think I previously calculated, what I needed to pay the insurance premium to get the 500k coverage, I could just put the same amount into investments and make my own 500k.

This way I'm not held to ransom by the insurance company.

Also, now that I have the 500k, I don't touch it nor do I put in more money into it.

At 5% returns/year, in ~14 years (and not touching it) I will have 1mil coverage anyway (and I will be 58yrs).


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Lembu Goreng
post Aug 19 2023, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Aug 19 2023, 04:29 PM)
You are not wrong in your concept. I dunno what is the actual number to comment. But the concept is susceptible to "fluctuations". You are also not protected from the tail end risk.

Logically and statistically assuming we have data, most people will spend around an X amount on their medical bills, but there are also some on the tail end, where very small amount of ppl will spend a lot more.

Unless your buffer is very high, I might still suggest getting medical insurance with a really high deductible. 50k or 100k perhaps? Anything above 100k, they cover you. And the cost of insurance is a lot lower. The idea is to be covered even if the tail end event happened.

Food for thought....
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That’s an interesting suggestion, quite clever I might add. Thank you


Lembu Goreng
post Oct 19 2024, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 19 2024, 01:59 PM)
lets be realistic, look at the other side.
if one earns RM2500 said money not enough, we can understand.

but you guys with income like that saying money not enough is audacious
if not contemptuous to them.

you rat-raced into a vicious cycle, spend more and more and then
force yourself to work  harder and harder.......no end lah

like that no matter how much you earn also no use.
patutlah money forever not enough 
you spend more than what you can afford
at the end have to  downgrade..

the fear you guys have is also morbid. scared there is no tomorrow?
so must spend spend now----- better to think positive and be optimistic
tomorrow will be better than today.

slippery slopes in life we got to avoid. if not we would fall.
living that flashy lifestyles is nice but dont forget  to also spend  on bodyguards as well.
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Also it’s interesting to note that those that say they earn incredible income almost often always say they don’t have enough time.

I may not be in top 1% in wealth but I am definitely in top 1% in time since I retired early and quit the rat race.

I get to spend plenty of time with my loved ones and doing the things I love, so I see myself as extremely rich in that sense.


Lembu Goreng
post Oct 19 2024, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Oct 19 2024, 11:13 PM)
if you managed to maintain your spending budget after retirement, then definitely you are in the top 1% wealth of Malaysia... its only around 2 million ringgit as per some survery...
(ie if your spending budget is more than 10K rm per month and if we use 5% return on wealth)
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I said ‘I may not be..’ because I don’t believe such surveys 😁
Lembu Goreng
post Nov 3 2024, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 3 2024, 07:10 AM)
I feel 100k useless. I think 500k is where you will pickup speed.
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I made 160k at age 30 on my first investment which triggered a couple of things.

1. It opened up my mind to look into other investments and diversify
2. It paid for my MBA

Because of that 160k, I retired 13 years later.

For most young people, 100k is damn tough - but it opens up opportunities.

Lembu Goreng
post Nov 4 2024, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Khan92 @ Nov 4 2024, 01:33 AM)
Any tips on where to look for learn trading?
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Not exactly teaches trading, but about how you view money

A book called ‘Psychology of money’

Frankly anyone can be rich/milionaires, depends on how fast you want to get there


 

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