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 How much is your net worth?, gauging your financial performance.

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Halamdar
post Apr 6 2013, 12:56 PM

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Resurrection of topic from the year 2011 !

Zombiessss biggrin.gif
Halamdar
post Apr 6 2013, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 6 2013, 02:38 PM)
if i'm not mistaken, those formulas shared by Gark-san is just the AVERAGE JOE expectations.
U want to be wealthy? Need to be XX% above those
1.49 based on The Millionaire Next Door & the following book (Stop Living like a Millionaire and be one... or something like that tongue.gif) if i'm not mistaken

eg. average = 10% savings
above average >=20% savings

Since U are an Excel wielder, i think it'll be better if U do:
a. each row = 1 year
b. Columns = Gross pay per year, XX% savings yearly injection, Accumulated Savings *(1+8% as returns) +new yearly injection
c. play with the xx% to see the last row (ie. up to your last year's pay) VS your net worth

Draft idea above yar - hehe, mine waaay too detailed to share as i even track EPF from employer and windfalls
Thus i can compare whether i'm saving how much % in long term effectively and safely extrapolate how much i'd be able to allocate for future goals (kids' Uni, partner's bucket list, etc.)

Just a thought  notworthy.gif
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Wow...

My personal financial calculation work like this only....

1, 2, 3, many, a lot....

Haha biggrin.gif

But seriously, initially I did try to keep track the expenditure and income etc.. but after 1 to 2 yr > gave up.

Only end up looking at my bank statement at the end of the year.
If:
Black = good.
More black > better !!!


Halamdar
post Apr 8 2013, 12:50 PM

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Just curious, does the formula apply if you start work late.

In my case, I only start working at age of 24 yr old. And out of a job for 1 yr at the around 29ish.

Anyway, I failed with flying colour for all the 4 different ways of calculation biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by Halamdar: Apr 8 2013, 12:51 PM
Halamdar
post Apr 8 2013, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Apr 8 2013, 12:58 PM)
after reading this tered and KOK tered.
i feel very low lor.
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Haha, lets form a "loser" club ! JK biggrin.gif

But seriously, dont compare with the big taoki here. Its over represented in this forum and there are not that many in real life tongue.gif
Halamdar
post Apr 8 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 8 2013, 01:24 PM)
Start work late = have to work harder, save harder, eat cheaper, drink/club lesser biggrin.gif
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Wwwwww.... /cry !

No lah... still need my daily starbuck latte..... my kid come along as well... and he always order food too .... tongue.gif
Halamdar
post Apr 8 2013, 03:16 PM

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Haha, for me , I dont buy luxury goods and my T shirt only cost RM 6, just cannot survive without latte tongue.gif

But on the serious note, I do have much saving tongue.gif and definately can afford latte everyday biggrin.gif

Latte is something I need as a necessary enjoyment of my life tongue.gif
Halamdar
post Apr 8 2013, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 8 2013, 03:22 PM)
So.. how come fail the calculation? Means your savings not enough lor.....

1 Starbucks grande latte (RM 12? forgot  tongue.gif ) x 30 days = RM 360 per month

Lets say you invest your 'latte' money at 5%  profit, every month add RM 360, within 10 years = RM 63,249... can buy new car liao.. tongue.gif
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Its because at the moment, I am peak at my primary income biggrin.gif. Well, maybe close to the peak .. probable could go higher.

And I started to work much later in my life ( Age > 24 yr old) due to studies. And 1 yr unemployed tongue.gif

Also, start family young , married at age 25 , and have 2 kids > eat up all my income during earlier part of my working life...(Sole income earner for the household)

With my kids growing up .. spend much much more lagi , but my income growth out pace my expenditure by a great margin. Hence.. if u use the PRESENT income > fail with flying colour !

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Halamdar
post Apr 8 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(noprogambler @ Apr 8 2013, 04:02 PM)
This thread is a bit show off wink.gif .

But since I am an anonymity, I would like share my information tongue.gif .

Age: 30 (Single)
Monthly Income: RM5,500 (Gross EPF & Tax)
Monthly Estimated Expenses: RM4,000
Expected Yearly Bonus: RM11,000 (about 2-month year end bonus of which I have been rewarded in the past year)
Expected Yearly Dividend Income: RM4,000 (2% dividend yield of the shares portfolio of which I have been receiving in the past years) <-- this should be RM10,000, forget to count in the 2% DY on the RM300,000 shares bought through share margin
Expected Yearly Savings: RM30,000 <-- should be RM24,000, with additional 2% DY on the RM300,000 shares bought through share margin, forget to build in the share margin interest sweat.gif

EPF: RM60,000

Assets:
Unit Trust: RM2,500
Shares: RM500,000
House: RM100,000 (the house is fully paid and its market price is estimated to be RM200,000, shared 50% with my brother)
Land: RM300,000 (market price)
Total Assets = RM902,500

Liabilities:
Car Mortgage: RM41,000 (another 48-month installments)
Share Margin Facilities: RM300,000
Total Liabilities = RM341,000

Net Assets = RM561,500
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Share margin facility > no interest incurred meh ?


Halamdar
post Apr 9 2013, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 9 2013, 01:50 PM)
I oso spam....

Age: 50

Net Asset: RM8.01M      sweat.gif
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I thought I am doing Okish.....

I better dig a hole and hide inside tongue.gif

P/s : We need a "loser" club thread tongue.gif

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Halamdar
post Apr 12 2013, 03:19 PM

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"So, my prediction is once this vacuum takes place, once these central bankers step away from their debt monetization and realize they have been the only buyers of their sovereign debt and the interest rates spike, they are going to have to come in (to the markets) in a much more significant way than they already are. That is going to lead to what I see as global intractable inflation for a very long time.”

So, for argument purpose.

Say, central bank of America and Japan (infinite) NON stop buying their own bonds In order to print more money. The worst scenario > hyper inflation. Then why would the interest rate spike ?

With hyper inflation > biggest loser would be ppl who hold cash and saving in bank, and/or bonds (those that are fixed rate and not link to inflation + type)

The winner will be , fixed assets, oil, commodities, maybe shares ( as long as records profits ) >more bull run ?
And of course banker with fat bonus.

There is nothing to stop them for Infinitely printing money. And continue devaluation of their currency. (World war of the Currency ). And those that depends on export economies + high debts + low tech level will collapse 1st . And rebalancing of trade occur ?



 

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