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poolsurf06
post Jul 28 2011, 12:09 PM

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Added on July 28, 2011, 7:02 am

Bro, thank U for reminding me that the world aint that small. I'm sure well connected peons/bankrupts have millions of $ too but they arent the norm lar tongue.gif.
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well, am not sure about those who does not follow the laws, aren't interested in them either. let God deal with them, we have our life to care about. tongue.gif

am still studying so this just a thought but i think these company will be found in 1. energy related field, 2. consultancy related, 3. sub-con jobs 4. work oversea. Reason being: No company beats 1st benefits and how far an employee could go, 2nd is best because ur pay increase as ur experience level increases, and generally no such thing as retirement due to age. 3rd has the lowest entry barrier but it's also the most fragile in terms of job security. 4th is for the person when he/she is young.

forget about S&M process industry...those are for u to gain 1/2yr exp or when u need a job instantly but can't find one.. by the time u pay ur life to help those company gets top500 in forbes, chances are u are not longer required - the ugly truth.

i know there are news around broadcasting that graduates demand too much etc, but put on our cool.gif because we know if we can communicate in quite proper English here (oh yes, those spm holders that I mention, could, they were trained by the company in technical and soft skills, no relations required. smile.gif ) , we just need to step out and try, and if all fails, at least we have tried. hope to see you in the top of the world. smile.gif


Added on July 28, 2011, 9:49 pm
QUOTE(a6meister @ Sep 16 2009, 02:34 PM)
wow, ur monthly taking is about 42k. i think u are not engineer, u are the director of the company. so, u must know one of the director of UNISEM. I think u earn more than him.
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lol..there are engineers with this pay at this age..assuming his pay start flourishing at 35, he saved ~2million in total, not bad huh.. respect smile.gif

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post Jul 28 2011, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(bahamas @ May 4 2011, 10:37 PM)
As I don't stay in KL currently, I would like to rent my condom (if i have one).

given the condom prices now,  most of the return (rental / condom price)  is around  5% or less .

I don't see buying a condom is a good choice because many investment can give me a 5% yearly return.
In addition, the appreciation of condoms is getting slow. as a risk adverse investor,
I afraid that i might be the last one "to get on cars"....
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OMG I can't stop laughing thumbup.gif biggrin.gif . I have to say your post made my day! I <3 it rclxms.gif
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post Jul 29 2011, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(how2wfh @ Jul 28 2011, 11:12 AM)
Just sharing the back of the book, one of the paragraph says
"Have you ever wondered why some people seem to get rich easily, while others seemed destined for a life of financial struggle? Is the difference found in their education, intelligence, skills, timing, work habits, contacts, luck, or their choice of jobs, businesses, or investments? The shocking answer is:None of the above!"

The book can find in any bookstores in malaysia. Last check on last week online, book stores are selling at RM34.90
If only RM34.90 can give you the secrets of millionaire mind and get you started to master the inner game of wealth,... is this worth to get one to find out your own? I did my own decision, i bought 5. Gave 3 away to my relatives & friends.

Thank you.
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 28 2011, 11:21 AM)
Great minds think alike - I buy 5 copies to distribute yearly to relatives,friends & colleagues biggrin.gif Buy them during sales and stuff - only about $10 to $19. The simplified (can be tweaked a bit better imho) of 6 buckets for managing $ is a great base to build from.

hm... great minds think alike.. fools flock together.. whoa.. fine difference  tongue.gif
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Adopt the ways of the book in your life yet? Going to Time bookstore to look for the book and see how it goes. biggrin.gif


wongmunkeong
post Jul 29 2011, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(edyek @ Jul 29 2011, 06:52 PM)
Adopt the ways of the book in your life yet? Going to Time bookstore to look for the book and see how it goes.  biggrin.gif
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Already did since 2008 - hard as nails to live on 50% of net salary... heheh. However, as U get used to it and simplify, U get a tremendous turbo boost in net worth coz necessities cost down, while increasing income. Simple biz logic tongue.gif
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post Jul 29 2011, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(rzkb @ Jun 10 2011, 04:48 PM)
i cincai create my account last time, now already correct....im a healthy straight male


Added on June 10, 2011, 6:04 pmim just doing everything i can to retire by 35 or latest by 40..

retire in a sense that stopping myself from doing something i dont truly enjoy and to end the constant fear that i may be sacked anytime just because my year end evaluation is not good just because it is not written in bombastic exaggerated way, my politic in office is not up to par, i am not 'visible' enough in the company, new boss change every 3 years which means new target to meet and new stuff to adapt..this is energy consuming and will eat up life

so right now, my target is to struggle all out to get at least 4 million buck by or before 40, with or without inheritance, and just dump it in amanah saham, wawasan, didik, or equivalent, gaining around 6% per annum and just njoy, travel and do good deeds until i die.
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How do you do to achieve 4 million of you are not strong performer in the company?
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post Jul 29 2011, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Jul 29 2011, 08:54 PM)
How do you do to achieve 4 million of you are not strong performer in the company?
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nope, u missunderstood, i meant want to get that amount while doing things on the side, when i accumulate enough, i can stop office work
casperity
post Sep 2 2011, 01:26 PM

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Hi all sifus,

Age: 28
Occupation: Bizman
Marital Status: Single with gf



Asset(s):
1 Condo RM 250k (Owe Bank 215k)
1 Semi-D RM 660k (Owe Bank RM 559k)
1 Shoplot RM 2.2mil (Owe Bank RM 2.0 mil)

Liability (ies):
1 Apartment RM 120k (Valuation RM 250k , Owe bank RM 100k)
1 Merz E Class RM 350k (Down RM 150k, now entering 2nd year)


Insurance:
RM 2.4k p.a

Investment:
No stock, no mutual funds in my life !

Savings account (Up-to-date)
RM 750 (Wahahahha !)

Monthly spending:
1. RM1,000 for petrol and toll to work
2. RM250 car maintenance
3. RM1,500 for food
4. RM1,000 for entertainment
5. RM1,000 Miscellaneous
6. RM 500-RM 1,000 to parent

Monthly Income : RM 10-30k


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post Sep 2 2011, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(rzkb @ Jun 10 2011, 05:48 PM)
i cincai create my account last time, now already correct....im a healthy straight male


Added on June 10, 2011, 6:04 pmim just doing everything i can to retire by 35 or latest by 40..

retire in a sense that stopping myself from doing something i dont truly enjoy and to end the constant fear that i may be sacked anytime just because my year end evaluation is not good just because it is not written in bombastic exaggerated way, my politic in office is not up to par, i am not 'visible' enough in the company, new boss change every 3 years which means new target to meet and new stuff to adapt..this is energy consuming and will eat up life

so right now, my target is to struggle all out to get at least 4 million buck by or before 40, with or without inheritance, and just dump it in amanah saham, wawasan, didik, or equivalent, gaining around 6% per annum and just njoy, travel and do good deeds until i die.
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same here. i have that aim as well. really tiring keeping up with the politics and other stuff in corporate life.
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post Sep 2 2011, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(casperity @ Sep 2 2011, 01:26 PM)
Hi all sifus,

Age: 28
Occupation: Bizman
Marital Status: Single with gf
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Monthly Income : RM 10-30k
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Nice details, although i'm no seafood, may i take a stab at this?
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post Sep 2 2011, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 2 2011, 02:18 PM)
Nice details, although i'm no seafood, may i take a stab at this?
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The residential is under cont.
Shoplot receiving rental with -ve RM 1,500 / month tongue.gif

btw, what you stab on? I cannot get it.

You got a very geng excel program ler...wahaha

I got Milan one last time, but yours is more geng, can give comment some more.

Wahahha
wongmunkeong
post Sep 2 2011, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(casperity @ Sep 2 2011, 02:25 PM)
The residential is under cont.
Shoplot receiving rental with -ve RM 1,500 / month tongue.gif

btw, what you stab on? I cannot get it.

You got a very geng excel program ler...wahaha

I got Milan one last time, but yours is more geng, can give comment some more.

Wahahha
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Take a stab at analyzing your data, in my own point of view lar tongue.gif. Forum mar - share ideas / point of view. My apologies if i'm intruding yar.

Hm.. -ve rental (ie. rental pm < mortgage pm) of RM1,500? That knocks down your monthly cash flow, which the lowest to be about $3K+.
Hehheh - phew, scary leverage in my opinion. Thus, i stay a working lemming tongue.gif

Overall, looks good net worth for a 28 yr old. Just watch out on your D/E leverage which needs good cash flow to support in case of hiccups.
Just an opinion - U may want to stash / asset allocate some % of your assets to bonds / bond funds IF U don't pay yrself EPF.

Milan? who's that? tongue.gif
Joking joking.

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post Sep 2 2011, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 2 2011, 02:33 PM)
Take a stab at analyzing your data, in my own point of view lar tongue.gif. Forum mar - share ideas / point of view. My apologies if i'm intruding yar.

Hm.. -ve rental (ie. rental pm < mortgage pm) of RM1,500? That knocks down your monthly cash flow, which the lowest to be about $3K+.
Hehheh - phew, scary leverage in my opinion. Thus, i stay a working lemming tongue.gif

Overall, looks good net worth for a 28 yr old. Just watch out on your D/E leverage which needs good cash flow to support in case of hiccups.
Just an opinion - U may want to stash / asset allocate some % of your assets to bonds / bond funds IF U don't pay yrself EPF.

Milan? who's that?  tongue.gif
Joking joking.
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Oic...I tot is sort of Rikimaru (Dota) skill..wahaha... Kidding also!

Thanks for your advise, I plan to give myself some EPF as it will help in my next loan in 2012, another shoplot !

I will fork up another RM 150k by the end of this year to restore my saving and emergency back up.

Just 2 cents to share, I have put a thick butter to all my mortgages / cars (1 year advance mortgage payment) to be auto instructed monthly. These advanced money is excluded in my calculation and I always treated them as " not my money".
With that, I can buy more props more confidently.
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post Sep 2 2011, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(casperity @ Sep 2 2011, 01:26 PM)
Hi all sifus,

Age: 28
Occupation: Bizman
Marital Status: Single with gf
Asset(s):
1 Condo RM 250k  (Owe Bank 215k)
1 Semi-D RM 660k (Owe Bank RM 559k)
1 Shoplot RM 2.2mil (Owe Bank RM 2.0 mil)

Liability (ies):
1 Apartment RM 120k (Valuation RM 250k , Owe bank RM 100k)
1 Merz E Class RM 350k (Down RM 150k, now entering 2nd year)
Insurance:
RM 2.4k p.a

Investment:
No stock, no mutual funds in my life !

Savings account (Up-to-date)
RM 750 (Wahahahha !)

Monthly spending:
1. RM1,000 for petrol and toll to work
2. RM250 car maintenance
3. RM1,500 for food
4. RM1,000 for entertainment
5. RM1,000 Miscellaneous
6. RM 500-RM 1,000 to parent

Monthly Income : RM 10-30k
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Mind to share what business that can such high income a month? rclxms.gif
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post Sep 2 2011, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(casperity @ Sep 2 2011, 02:44 PM)
Oic...I tot is sort of Rikimaru (Dota) skill..wahaha... Kidding also!

Thanks for your advise, I plan to give myself some EPF as it will help in my next loan in 2012, another shoplot !

I will fork up another RM 150k by the end of this year to restore my saving and emergency back up.

Just 2 cents to share, I have put a thick butter to all my mortgages / cars (1 year advance mortgage payment) to be auto instructed monthly. These advanced money is  excluded in my calculation and I always treated them as " not my money".
With that, I can buy more props more confidently.
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Bro - you're a man with a plan - one who can't be stopped, it's just a matter of time before U reach your minor & major goals notworthy.gif
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post Sep 2 2011, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 2 2011, 02:44 PM)
Mind to share what business that can such high income a month?  rclxms.gif
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Hi,

I am doing IT solution company.

I have another company doing some trading as well.

For me after I have gone through some trail and success bizs, I keep these two biz.

I find that is not about what biz which can bring you the money, is about WHO do the biz.

Cheers !


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QUOTE(casperity @ Sep 2 2011, 02:48 PM)
Hi,

I am doing IT solution company.

I have another company doing some trading as well.

For me after I have gone through some trail and success bizs, I keep these two biz.

I find that is not about what biz which can bring you the money, is about WHO do the biz.

Cheers !
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Yup yup - best customers are PARTNERS IN GROWTH. Win win
other than that, er.. WHO becomes a bit grey/shady tongue.gif Ninja-dozo!
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post Sep 2 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(casperity @ Sep 2 2011, 01:26 PM)
Hi all sifus,

Age: 28
Occupation: Bizman
Marital Status: Single with gf
Asset(s):
1 Condo RM 250k  (Owe Bank 215k)
1 Semi-D RM 660k (Owe Bank RM 559k)
1 Shoplot RM 2.2mil (Owe Bank RM 2.0 mil)

Liability (ies):
1 Apartment RM 120k (Valuation RM 250k , Owe bank RM 100k)
1 Merz E Class RM 350k (Down RM 150k, now entering 2nd year)
Insurance:
RM 2.4k p.a

Investment:


No stock, no mutual funds in my life !

Savings account (Up-to-date)
RM 750 (Wahahahha !)

Monthly spending:
1. RM1,000 for petrol and toll to work
2. RM250 car maintenance
3. RM1,500 for food
4. RM1,000 for entertainment
5. RM1,000 Miscellaneous
6. RM 500-RM 1,000 to parent

Monthly Income : RM 10-30k
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imho . isnt the insuran of 2.4k a little insufficient? just in case anythng unwanted happen

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QUOTE(Sh@rty 5 @ Sep 2 2011, 03:33 PM)
imho . isnt the insuran of 2.4k a little insufficient? just in case anythng unwanted happen
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Hi,

My ultimate aims is NOT TO HAVE INSURANCE in coming years.

So I just put minimal portion for that.

I never view Insurance is any kind of investment or savings. As I gain no control on my $ by the time I put them in.
Similar to Mutual Funds.


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QUOTE(casperity @ Sep 2 2011, 03:41 PM)
Hi,

My ultimate aims is NOT TO HAVE INSURANCE in coming years.

So I just put minimal portion for that.

I never view Insurance is any kind of investment or savings. As I gain no control on my $ by the time I put them in.
Similar to Mutual Funds.
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You're right - insurance is a no-win game, it's just coverage UNLESS you're looking to shield a sum from creditors for family to inherit

When U reach $0 insurance needed, in reality, U'd be "in-sourcing" the insurance, ie. self-insured biggrin.gif
My aim too heheh but for now, i still need DEATH (no, not life tongue.gif) insurance & Hospitalization insurance just in case cry.gif, to cover properties & self until all paid-up and i can more than afford to go zzz in a hospital (choi choi) laugh.gif

As for Mutual funds... U may want to look at bond funds bro.
IMHO, you're on the right track for Asset Allocation - Equities : Properties : Fixed Income
You've got your businesses (Equities), U got your properties, now.. Fixed Income (EPF, Bonds, Money Market, FDs).
Just a thought

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 2 2011, 03:49 PM)
You're right  - insurance is a no-win game, it's just coverage UNLESS you're looking to shield a sum from creditors for family to inherit

When U reach $0 insurance needed, in reality, U'd be "in-sourcing" the insurance, ie. self-insured biggrin.gif
My aim too heheh but for now, i still need DEATH (no, not life tongue.gif) insurance & Hospitalization insurance just in case cry.gif, to cover properties & self until all paid-up and i can more than afford to go zzz in a hospital (choi choi)  laugh.gif

As for Mutual funds... U may want to look at bond funds bro.
IMHO, you're on the right track for Asset Allocation - Equities : Properties : Fixed Income
You've got your businesses (Equities), U got your properties, now.. Fixed Income (EPF, Bonds, Money Market, FDs).
Just a thought
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