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Colaboy
post Feb 8 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Feb 7 2011, 07:58 PM)
woah...such young age and have such net worth. Oh well, i'm all by my own. Grad 3 years ago

age: 26
job: Design engineer
single no GF (just broke up)
take home pay: 2.7k

House + expenses = 1.4k
CC bill = ~300

House = none
Car= old proton (the only gift my dad gave me when i grad so no loan)

Cash in bank = ~5k
Insurance = paying 2.4k per year. (Medical card with investment link)

I know at such age i have nothing but I'm trying hard to make some passive income. Hence, my CC bills every month. I keep failing but i nvr give up and stand up and keep going. I believe this year i'll be able to generate some passive income.

But one thing, i wonder why some of you call your house an asset if you still paying the loan to your bank? I mean if you need to pay let's say 1k to the bank every month and your rental is 500. So means the house become your temporary liability, right? It becomes asset when it generate passive income for you.

I don't know whether what I think is right or wrong but I'm going to generate some passive income and make sure that I am able to cover my house loan using the rental and passive income, then i'll get my property. Hmm.....

anyone, enlighten me, please?

I remember my dad once told me when we were smoking together outside the house

"Son, you are on your own now. Your dad don't have any money to support you and don't have anything to give u. If you want something, earn it. As long as don't do anything illegal"

Oh well. I'm working hard working hard....
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consider yourself very lucky now . . . have a dad that told you to make money for yourself
dont have to headache about his financial . . .
playerseeker
post Feb 8 2011, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Colaboy @ Feb 8 2011, 02:06 PM)
consider yourself very lucky now . . . have a dad that told you to make money for yourself
dont have to headache about his financial . . .
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Oh well, I'm quite gladful on that as my dad was a pensioner so he has his own pension. he told me that I don't have to worry about him and my mum's financially but just that his pension is cukup makan only. So I'm on my own to make my own money as he won't be supporting me financially. But maybe mentally. Anyhow, I stay with them so I still contribute to the house as the responsibility of a son.

I always tell myself I'm lucky and also do not compete with others on anything. I just compete with myself and set my own goal and go for it. blush.gif

Anyway, I do hope am able to increase my net worth by this year end. I'm planning to have 2 passive income at least this year. blush.gif
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post Feb 9 2011, 11:55 AM

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I am also traying to have passive income this year. However, with my condition, it seems very tight own property this year.

age : 25 going to be 26 this year
gender : female
occupation : telecommunication engineer ( started working since July 2008)
salary : 2.6 k monthly

Commitment :
300 for EPF
500 for car installment
150 for education loan
200 for ASB loan
300 for utilities bills,astro n etc ( I am living with my parents)
250 for petrol & toll
150 for f&b


balance from montly salary = 750

so-called assets:

ASB loan : 20k
gold & silver : 10 k
ASB account : 2k
Cash in bank : 1 k


This is my experience:

July 2008-Jun 2009 : I was working in Satellite company
Manage to save 10k.
Then I start a small business, scammed by ppl and lost all 10k. Very very sad wasn't it?

July 2009 - now : I moved to GLC company. and started all over again after I lost 10k. However I could not save much coz I registered for master
degree part time. Will be graduated this May.

I do some online business which can generate profit average 200 weekly. However it is on and off coz I am also study. Sometime I need to go for outstation.

My wishes this year:

To save at least 10k
To earn at least 6k from online business

By 30, I want to have at least 100k.

Am I on the right path??



JiJai
post Feb 9 2011, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(ncm1903 @ Feb 8 2011, 10:55 PM)
I am also traying to have passive income this year. However, with my condition, it seems very tight own property this year.

age : 25 going to be 26 this year
gender : female
occupation : telecommunication engineer ( started working since July 2008)
salary : 2.6 k monthly

Commitment :
300 for EPF
500 for car installment
150 for education loan
200 for ASB loan
300 for utilities bills,astro n etc ( I am living with my parents)
250 for petrol & toll
150 for f&b
balance from montly salary = 750

so-called assets:

ASB loan : 20k
gold & silver : 10 k
ASB account : 2k
Cash in bank : 1 k
This is my experience:

July 2008-Jun 2009 : I was working in Satellite company
Manage to save 10k.
Then I start a small business, scammed by ppl and lost all 10k. Very very sad wasn't it?

July 2009 - now : I moved to GLC company. and started all over again after I lost 10k. However I could not save much coz I registered for master
                          degree part time. Will be graduated this May.

I do some online business which can generate profit average 200 weekly. However it is on and off coz I am also study. Sometime I need to go for outstation.

My wishes this year:

To save at least 10k
To earn at least 6k from online business

By 30, I want to have at least 100k.

Am I on the right path??
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your master can help you to save those 10k imo. there's surely a change in your future salary brows.gif

btw, why do you put asb loan under assets? shouldn't it be placed under liability?

and you are doing quite well in your mid 20's

This post has been edited by JiJai: Feb 9 2011, 12:09 PM
ncm1903
post Feb 9 2011, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(JiJai @ Feb 9 2011, 12:07 PM)
your master can help you to save those 10k imo. there's surely a change in your future salary  brows.gif

btw, why do you put asb loan under assets? shouldn't it be placed under liability?

and you are doing quite well in your mid 20's
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asb loan is a lialibilities.i just put it under so-called assets because I am trying to practice the power of compund interest.
Which means I must never fail to pay monthly installment and must never touch the dividen every year.
Eventually will come out as snawball effect.
I am not sure how long I can grasp this idea ( meaning not to touch the dividen money), you know sometimes unexpected things happen,
car brake down, handphone needs to be replace, vacation and so on.

Nowdays, with with 2k-3k earning monthly is not a big figure especially if you are living in the city such as KL.



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post Feb 9 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(ncm1903 @ Feb 9 2011, 11:55 AM)
so-called assets:

ASB loan : 20k
gold & silver : 10 k
ASB account : 2k
Cash in bank : 1 k
Only 20K ASB loan? Max ASB is 200K rite? Why dont u try and put more in since the dividends are quite good? Ive maxed out my ASB since 2009.

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post Feb 9 2011, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 9 2011, 01:14 PM)
Only 20K ASB loan? Max ASB is 200K rite? Why dont u try and put more in since the dividends are quite good? Ive maxed out my ASB since 2009.
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I am afraid at some point my commitment will increase such as getting married, having child and so on.
And I also do not want too long loan tenure since it will be in certificate form until the tenure end.

How many tenure years do you take?
and do you think it better?
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post Feb 9 2011, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(ncm1903 @ Feb 9 2011, 02:29 PM)
I am afraid at some point my commitment will increase such as getting married, having child and so on.
And I also do not want too long loan tenure since it will be in certificate form until the tenure end.

How many tenure years do you take?
and do you think it better?
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Well i didnt take a loan. I pumped in cash. You can take a bigger loan n shorten the period. The idea is to make enough money now while ure still young. When u start a family, most of the burden of finances should be on your husband unless u both agree otherwise to split the costs 50-50.
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post Feb 9 2011, 04:32 PM

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post Feb 9 2011, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Feb 7 2011, 11:58 AM)
I remember my dad once told me when we were smoking together outside the house

"Son, you are on your own now. Your dad don't have any money to support you and don't have anything to give u. If you want something, earn it. As long as don't do anything illegal"

Oh well. I'm working hard working hard....
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hmm, same as my dad left me nothing as well, all on my own, thumbup.gif

but the difference is, my dad told me, "Son, you are on your own now. Your dad don't have any money to support you and don't have anything to give u, you can do any business you like, be it legal or illegal, as long as you dont "kill people burn house" (sat yan fong fo in canto)" because he used to do some illegal stuff to like selling pirated VCD's hahaha

lol, so, I jump aeroplane.




Added on February 9, 2011, 5:48 pm
QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 8 2011, 01:24 AM)
Saving 25% of your salary is not good at all. Everybody should target to save at least 40% with the current rising rates of inflation. Your 25% savings today might only be worth 10% in 10 years. So maintaining at least a 40% savings target now will provide the neccessary buffer against inflation.

For your info, im saving approx 55% of my salary every month and that is after taking into account the housing loans, insurance, bills and living expenses.
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well, I wouldnt advice a fixed percentage of salary to be save, as everyone had different amount of salary, if one person salary is RM1000, 50 percent save is RM500, how do you survive with RM500?

This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Feb 9 2011, 05:49 PM
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post Feb 9 2011, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 8 2011, 09:19 AM)
The act of saving starts when ure single not when ure married. Once ure married its very difficult to save especially when u have kids. Thats why its very important to have a solid financial foundation BEFORE getting married n having kids.

For your info, i was already earning a 5 figure salary before i got married which i saved. Thus it was alot easier for me after marriage to deal with the additional expenses of setting up home and starting a family.

So 8K may be enough for a single to survive NOW but if ure planning on settling down then u better start thinking seriously bout saving alot of that 8K. Saving doesnt only mean saving for retirement. It also means having extra funds for emergencies.
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Not saving much for now but yes I do have emergency fund. Mostly invest in land bank and business. No much liabilities at the moment except my personal car and my apartment is paid up. smile.gif

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 8 2011, 09:24 AM)
Saving 25% of your salary is not good at all. Everybody should target to save at least 40% with the current rising rates of inflation. Your 25% savings today might only be worth 10% in 10 years. So maintaining at least a 40% savings target now will provide the neccessary buffer against inflation.

For your info, im saving approx 55% of my salary every month and that is after taking into account the housing loans, insurance, bills and living expenses.
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I don't save much of my salary as I take low salary. Most the expenses are paid by company. The only savings I get is is bonus which is when my company is making profit every year. And most profit/dividend are pumped into land banking.

I'm using different tactic to tackle the current inflation. Yes, if my business is down, I might have trouble. smile.gif
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post Feb 10 2011, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Feb 9 2011, 05:41 PM)
well, I wouldnt advice a fixed percentage of salary to be save, as everyone had different amount of salary, if one person salary is RM1000, 50 percent save is RM500, how do you survive with RM500?
Im refering to ppl who are earning a decent income. Anybody earning about RM1000 a month will find it difficult to make ends meet let alone save. But when i was earning RM1500 bout 11 yrs ago i did manage to save about 25% of my salary. So i dont think putting aside 30-40% of your salary if u are in the income bracket >RM3000 will be a problem. If u cant do that that means your expenses/debts are too high.

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post Feb 10 2011, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 10 2011, 08:36 AM)
Im refering to ppl who are earning a decent income. Anybody earning about RM1000 a month will find it difficult to make ends meet let alone save. But when i was earning RM1500 bout 11 yrs ago i did  manage to save about 25% of my salary. So i dont think putting aside 30-40% of your salary if u are in the income bracket >RM3000 will be a problem. If u cant do that that means your expenses/debts are too high.
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Presumably you do not have children?
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post Feb 10 2011, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 10 2011, 08:43 AM)
Presumably you do not have children?
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Having kids should not be made an excuse not to save enough. There are always ways n means to cut down expenses and increase passive income. Having said that, also have children according to your means. No point having 6 kids and then complaining not enuf money to give them a proper life. If your finances arent stable enuf, then hold off the kids or limit the number. I dont see why ppl would bring kids into the world and have them live a life of poverty.

The rule of thumb is always 'Live Within Your Means'
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post Feb 10 2011, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 10 2011, 08:48 AM)
Having kids should not be made an excuse not to save enough. There are always ways n means to cut down expenses and increase passive income. Having said that, also have children according to your means. No point having 6 kids and then complaining not enuf money to give them a proper life. If your finances arent stable enuf, then hold off the kids or limit the number. I dont see why ppl would bring kids into the world and have them live a life of poverty.

The rule of thumb is always 'Live Within Your Means'
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Hold on.....you are preaching...... no one saying dont save.......but having children and saving 30 to 40% on a salaried income?
Are you also preaching moonlighting? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 7 2011, 04:11 PM)
not comfy if ur gonna buy a hse & hav to worry bout the kids future education.
lets not even fo to buyin exp, branded luxury things.
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Like I said... 10 million is the retirement figure.. that's about enough to settle most things.


Added on February 10, 2011, 10:50 am
QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 10 2011, 08:48 AM)
Having kids should not be made an excuse not to save enough. There are always ways n means to cut down expenses and increase passive income. Having said that, also have children according to your means. No point having 6 kids and then complaining not enuf money to give them a proper life. If your finances arent stable enuf, then hold off the kids or limit the number. I dont see why ppl would bring kids into the world and have them live a life of poverty.

The rule of thumb is always 'Live Within Your Means'
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True.. if you don't have 10 million why even get married, for that matter why even talk to anyone you don't have to? accidents can happen, before you know it you'll be married with kids and bringing up the next generation of garbagemen and toilet cleaners (for which I suppose the country has to thank you because someone has to do it.)



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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 10 2011, 08:54 AM)
Hold on.....you are preaching...... no one saying dont save.......but having children and saving 30 to 40% on a salaried income?
Are you also  preaching moonlighting?  hmm.gif
I am doing exactly that. I dont preach what i cant practice myself. Do you do a balance / debt check twice a week? I do. If u dont then dont dream bout saving even 30% of your income. Check your expenses and find ways to trim and you will be able to target at least 30% savings if not 40%.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 10 2011, 10:53 AM)
I am doing exactly that. I dont preach what i cant practice myself. Do you do a balance / debt check twice a week? I do. If u dont then dont dream bout saving even 30% of your income. Check your expenses and find ways to trim and you will be able to target at least 30% savings if not 40%.
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Why dont you show us all how you budget on a 3k income and save 40%?

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 10 2011, 08:36 AM)
Im refering to ppl who are earning a decent income. Anybody earning about RM1000 a month will find it difficult to make ends meet let alone save. But when i was earning RM1500 bout 11 yrs ago i did  manage to save about 25% of my salary. So i dont think putting aside 30-40% of your salary if u are in the income bracket >RM3000 will be a problem. If u cant do that that means your expenses/debts are too high.
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I was earning RM 1,500 (have not deduct EPF and SOSCO) per month when I was employed. I can't save any.

Kancil = RM 309
Petrol = RM 150~200
Apartment Rental = RM 400

The rest goes to my food per day.

Have not counted in my bills, entertainment etc.

I'm living alone, that why I can't save on transportation and accommodation. Lucky to have small business to support my lifestyle.

Needed at least RM 2,000~2,500 per month to break even. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(edyek @ Feb 10 2011, 04:30 AM)
I was earning RM 1,500 (have not deduct EPF and SOSCO) per month when I was employed. I can't save any.

Kancil = RM 309
Petrol = RM 150~200
Apartment Rental = RM 400

The rest goes to my food per day.

Have not counted in my bills, entertainment etc.

I'm living alone, that why I can't save on transportation and accommodation. Lucky to have small business to support my lifestyle.

Needed at least RM 2,000~2,500 per month to break even.  sweat.gif
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the whole apartment for 400?????
where?????

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