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post Nov 21 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Alejandro Sosa @ Nov 21 2021, 11:51 AM)
Guys..need some advice regarding Public mutual fund : e - pioneer entrepreneur fund.

I'm tempting to invest about 10k ++ ( out from my fd ) , anyone of you had invested in public mutual ? Can share some experiences ?
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Can try post at public mutual fund dedicated active thread...

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3580942/+2700#entry102886485

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post Nov 28 2021, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(umboy @ Nov 28 2021, 06:03 PM)
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This is an example and a part of my portfolio design by the bank manager
After selling me multiple product and I lost money, she actually ran off to another bank
She also refused to answer my phone

Bank manager will usually talk sweetly when selling their product
They will not show us the chart
I would like to remind everyone to be cautious when investing in such kind of products.
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there are many of this kind of products,...where they gives you 20% roi....

many thread had been made regarding this kind of 20% pa products especially from HLA....
googled and found these,..
https://www.google.com/search?q=hla+wealth+...ih=1076&dpr=0.9

btw, you paid lumpsum 72k to start, you get back in 20 yrs 61k in total guaranteed returns....
after 20 yrs your guaranteed returns will still be short of 11K from the initial 72k paid 20 yrs ago

the rest are stated NON guaranteed...and projected returns...

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post Dec 31 2021, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(kimusu2002 @ Dec 31 2021, 07:26 AM)
Age: 46
Occupation: Data expert
Marital Status: Single
Income: RM30k+

Assets:
1) Stocks - RM220K
2) StashAway: None
3) EPF: RM1.1M
4) Cash/Savings: RM500K
5) Cryto: RM300K
6) Semi D - 2M, own stay Paid
7) Condo - 900K, rent out 3k (loan 680k)
8) Condo - 1.1M, rent out 4.5K (loan 550k)
9) Shop - 1.5M, rent out 5k (loan 700k)
10) Cayenne  - RM500K+ (2019) paid

Liabilities:
1) Housing loan - 1.9M
2) Two dogs - rm500 monthly

Total Net worth:
About 6M is this 6M excludes all liabilities?( "net" worth)

Want to songlap more money and grow networth to 10M and retire around 51 or 52
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Yes, you need to songlap more money, else I think with your liabilities and with just 6 yrs to go, not easy to get to 10 mil

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post Jan 9 2022, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(officepw @ Jan 9 2022, 03:40 PM)
Hi all. Was wondering if my savings considered normal or OK for my age group profile?
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EPF - 205K
PRS - 18k
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Total: 269k (exclude PRS, EPF)

Thanks and much love  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
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With more than 400k net worth, You are doing alright,..... For based on statistic from just 3 yrs ago,....
ONLY 0.2% of adult Malaysians were categorised in the over US$1 million
The remainder 3.7% was placed in the US$100,000 to US$1 million wealth band.
https://themalaysianreserve.com/2019/10/22/...wealth-bracket/
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post Jan 10 2022, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(kimusu2002 @ Jan 10 2022, 03:32 PM)
Ya boss, exclude all liabilities, you see me good i see you good, i am a failure in life
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To me, it is just perception and relative to each individual and relative to the general population of the place of living...
Yes, maybe a failure if you want to stick to a 10 mil target by 52 yrs old...
But if you consider the 2019 statistic,.... Just 0.2% of adults Malaysian has a net worth of MYR 4 mil.... Then you will realise that you are not a failure but extremely successful in life in malaysia..

ONLY 0.2% of adult Malaysians were categorised in the over US$1 million
The remainder 3.7% was placed in the US$100,000 to US$1 million wealth band.
https://themalaysianreserve.com/2019/10/22/...wealth-bracket/

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post Jan 12 2022, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(negayem @ Jan 12 2022, 10:07 AM)
Don't beat yourself down, always look at the glass half full.
Life is too short and too precious ...
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yes, especially for someone that has millions at age 46 like TS....
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post Jan 14 2022, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(126126 @ Jan 14 2022, 09:57 AM)
Age: Family of 4, 1 working adult. 2 child in secondary school
Active Income: RM30k+

Assets:
Stocks - RM3.2m
EPF - RM1.4m
Cash/Equivalent - RM650k
Property - RM6m
ASN - RM1.2m
Toys, collectibles and other assets - 200k

Liabilities:
Loans - RM2.1m

Other income:
Rental - 12k
ASN - 4k
EPF - 6-7k (div only but exclude employer contribution)
Div - 4k (only some equities are exposed to dividend stocks)

Expenses:
Property, tax and general living exp - 23k

Total Net worth: 10.5m
Is this profile good enough for retirement assuming adult at mid 40s?
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Is this profile good enough for retirement assuming adult at mid 40s?
Assuming both you & your spouse will live for another 40 yrs...
Does your current net asset generate enough passive income to sustain your required monthly expenses n your children educational needs?
If your passive income can do that,.... Then should be ease to get answers to "is it good enough for retirement?"
Btw, you did not list insurance plans,... Hope you got that covered too.
Overall,... You are doing extremely well in terms of net worth value in comparison to the general adult working population in malaysia. Bravo. 👏👏

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post Jan 15 2022, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(klehfeh @ Jan 15 2022, 01:04 AM)
are there any business men or entrepreneur that list out their net worth yet ? asking cause curious how the wealth/net worth is like
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while waiting for value added responses,...
hope this statistic can provide some info while you wait for responses, .....

"In 2019 report found that 0.2% or 43,646 adults living in Malaysia were placed in the over US$1 million wealth band, while the majo-rity of the adult population (96.1% or 20.97 million people) were categorised as having wealth at or below US$100,000. (RM400k)

This comprised 42.7% of adult Malaysians with wealth between US$10,000 and US$100,000, (RM40k ~ RM400K) and 53.4% with wealth under US$10,000.(RM40k)

The remainder 3.7% was placed in the US$100,000 to US$1 million wealth band. (RM400k ~ RM4mil)
https://themalaysianreserve.com/2019/10/22/...wealth-bracket/
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post Jan 16 2022, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(126126 @ Jan 16 2022, 09:09 AM)
Medical insurance is covered. All other insurance is not.

I did mention earlier that for the stock portfolio, not all stocks are in dividend stocks, and these are in growth/index stocks. Last few years the performance of those stocks are on average growing >15% pa, and these do create a substantial passive income but since these are not really consistent, it wasn’t disclosed as part of the passive income
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Try imagine n calculate,... If you take all cash you hv + $$ in stock, then put it into something that can generate "x" % pa.....
Can that "x" % pa generated $$ enough to sustain your retirement?... Find that "x" value,
Then see if you can find something that is not risky or volatile that can generate that "x".
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post Mar 16 2022, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(coolwind12345 @ Mar 16 2022, 11:59 AM)
Anyone here same like me? Quite afraid of having car & house loan, not interested to buy car and house.  innocent.gif

Age: 31
Occupation: Engineer
Marital Status: Single
Active Income: RM10K ( Job  )
Active Income: RM5K ( Online Business )
Passive Income: RM5k ( dividend from stocks )

Assets:
1) Stocks - RM1.91M (mostly dividend yielding stocks, been investing since 24 years olds)
2) EPF: RM150K
4) Cash/Savings: RM30K
Liabilities:
1) Housing loan - 0, renting room
2) Car loan - 0, family car
Lost motivation to work hard, should i buy a property and car to stress myself? So i would have my passion to work hard in my job?  rclxub.gif
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I think, unless the property or car is very expensive types, I am sure you will not stress too as your passive income is more than enough to covers repayment of those loan.

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post Mar 17 2022, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(LontongSedap @ Mar 17 2022, 01:10 PM)
Hi sifus, seek advice on how I can Improve my income.
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Non-local
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I also heard that as a foreigner it's not good to put money in EPF as the money can't even take out once it's in until you reach retirement age or government allow you to take out.
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As per this site,...
EPF contributions are not mandatory for foreigners working in Malaysia — but these workers can still opt-in to the EPF, if they prefer. This is because any employer or employee may choose to contribute more than the required minimum rates, which you’ll find in the Third Schedule of the Act..


What happens to your money if/when you leave Malaysia?
The natural question for foreign employees is usually what happens to EPF savings if/when they decide to leave Malaysia. In this case, EPF members who choose to migrate or return to their home country can choose to withdraw all savings deposited in the fund.

https://althr.my/resources/expatriates-fore...0of%20the%20Act.

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post Mar 18 2022, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Boneny @ Mar 18 2022, 10:40 AM)
Anyone knows if there's a good app to track one's net worth? One that can add monthly income and epf using a scheduler, and provide projections. Thanks.
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For the epf part, you can try post 3205, page 161
Fund Investment Corner v3, Funds101
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2601692/+3200#entry103853073

It is not an apps thou but in ms excel

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post Dec 15 2023, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Nutbeater69 @ Dec 15 2023, 11:05 AM)
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Liabilities
Housing loans = RM2M house (RM10k loan in 2025)


I’m hate having bills and loans to pay so I’m thinking to dump RM2M inside the loan account to reduce the interest to 0. Worth it?
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Just a note, some loan agreement does not allows that.
I think I read before, you can lump sum up to a certain %. Must maintain certain % of loan, else they will ask you to terminate that argeement (close that account)
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post Dec 15 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Nutbeater69 @ Dec 15 2023, 11:18 AM)
I can dump everything after 3 years of financing the loan. So I’m going to put 90-98% inside in the first 3 years.
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check your loan agreement to confirm that balance allowed amount....
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post Apr 27 2024, 09:45 AM

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"you yourself are the controller of your own destiny."....
Is only applicable and subjected to your own capability, capacity, wisdom and foresight at that moment you are steering your destiny.

You can only see how your destiny unfolded later.
There is a limit to what and when you can control.
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post Apr 27 2024, 10:12 AM

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If one are to believes that he can be rich by just,
"Get to know your fund managers and invest in their funds", can always see and follow what stocks had been picked and are holdings by the UT fund managers from their monthly published fundfactsheets.

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post Apr 27 2024, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(jyll92 @ Apr 27 2024, 10:17 AM)
then why hold ringgit? i have portfolio both in and out of malaysia the reason i invest in Malaysia is because dividend is not taxable at 2 levels and i need the passive to replace my active income.
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Just asking, is the taxes for those dividend earned can offset the depreciation of myr in your malaysia investment?

BTW, is dividend earned from fsi exempted from taxes till end 2026?
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post Apr 27 2024, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 27 2024, 10:22 AM)
That's why I don't hold ringgit. The only ringgit I hold are my EPF, PRS and my emergency funds. Nothing else.
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I hold that too includes my properties.
I believes some people holds their businesses in malaysia thus they holds their money myr too
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post Apr 27 2024, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 27 2024, 10:31 AM)
As long as you don't bring the money back to Malaysia.
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That is after dec26. Now is still OK.

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post Apr 27 2024, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(jyll92 @ Apr 27 2024, 10:35 AM)
U cannot see it in that regards only. U should invest in company that is non cyclical and the future dividend will fund your retirement. In Malaysia there's only a few companies that you can hold over a long time.

The best companies with moat are all in the US the downside is the lack of dividend. Even there is its massively taxed. It depends on what you want. if you don't need passive US market is the right place
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But you just gave your reason is because of, ...."dividend is not taxable..." thing

QUOTE(jyll92 @ Apr 27 2024, 10:17 AM)
then why hold ringgit? i have portfolio both in and out of malaysia the reason i invest in Malaysia is because dividend is not taxable at 2 levels and i need the passive to replace my active income.
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