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MOBA Heroes of Newerth (HoN) V2 ~ Hon > LoL > DotA, plz dun ask for beta keys in this thread

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Shadow Kun
post Nov 19 2009, 11:03 AM

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no i mean compared to stealth heroes in dota, he can stay cloaked indefinitely provided that he have mana. and his flurry attack when breaking stealth is way better than a plain backstab damage. and to add it more while he's on stealth, even if the enemy can see him, few can match his movement speed. the skill also have quick cooldown and have almost instantaneous fade time. windwalk (even NA's vendetta imo) in dota can't hold a candle against scout's vanish.

and then we have the ward. they last indefinitely, can cover important spots (shops, runes, neutral camps), can detect stealth, and can be used to silence enemies. what's the closest thing we get in dota? weaver's ghosts?


the other 2 skills is just icing to the cake. they seems ok. one is comparable to bounty hunter's crit/dodge and another is comparable with sniper's assassinate with a couple of plus and minus.

if scout were to be put in dota, i'm pretty sure he'll be nerfed in a matter of days after release.

he's not actually gamebreaking or anything but compared to other heroes, he's a bit too good imo.

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post Nov 19 2009, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(swks26 @ Nov 19 2009, 11:46 AM)
Just installed the game. Is there any single player to this? Gotta get used to the keys and heroes sad.gif
Updating the game at the moment hehe
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you can create a practice game if you want to play alone psyduck.
you can max out your level and gold in that mode so you can at least be familiar with the skills and how to buy stuff.
but there's no AI or anything like that yet.
you can also join an unranked game though where nothing will be recorded so usually people wont take it on you harshly if you do bad. smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2009, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(swks26 @ Nov 19 2009, 11:57 AM)
The menu stuff looks complicated sad.gif
Will try out the game stuff later this afternoon. But it looks good. Everything updates fast!

My IGN is Illuminate. Frack! I should have named myself Psyduck laugh.gif
Which severs do you guys normally play on?
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it's actually easier to learn compare to dota once you get the hang of it.
it's better organized imo. and the recommended items for each hero is quite useful if you are clueless of what to buy.
just play on random server. it doesnt matter really. just avoid japan server though. they are a tad slow.

QUOTE(friendly_ip @ Nov 19 2009, 11:58 AM)
About scout it can be a fuking long debate tongue.gif
and can be just very short : imba tongue.gif

but if opponent team is good, scout cant do much providing his teammate is not pro enough tongue.gif
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yea lol.
i know scout can't do much on his own. he still have to rely on his teammates against certain kind of opponent and also if the opposing team members is smart enough to not wander alone. won't call him imba. just that he's a bit too good compared to the others tongue.gif


Added on November 19, 2009, 12:06 pm
QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Nov 19 2009, 12:05 PM)
Heres a picture of how scout players usually play.....

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cant see image shack sad.gif
whats it about?

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post Nov 19 2009, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(ZamAdaII @ Nov 19 2009, 02:15 PM)
Indeed he is but during that game I've Deso, Demon Breastplate, Whispering Helm, Insanitarius and just need 3 hit to kill Scout after casted my ulti. Ulti >>  Stun >> Hit >> Hit >> Hit = Scout died.
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ya scout is really paper and can't handle lots of punishments. disables and nukes pretty much owns him if seen. that's where his ward come at play.that few seconds of not being able to cast anything is more than enough for a scout to finish most int hero.

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post Nov 19 2009, 03:29 PM

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yea but usually it takes a bit of time to take down those with massive HP. enough time for them to fight back (especially with disable/nuke), flee or their back up to come.
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post Nov 19 2009, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Nov 19 2009, 05:17 PM)
Pestilence eats scout in 3 hits.
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post Nov 20 2009, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(choyster @ Nov 20 2009, 01:08 PM)
flight says hi
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*remembered my epic chase scene*
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post Nov 20 2009, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(swks26 @ Nov 20 2009, 03:12 PM)
Damn snap! Just played the game. Didn't know what the hell was happening. Everything seemed so detailed lol.

First ever try. Used Blacksmith for my first ever try of the game.
Was so lost sad.gif
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it's quite normal actually. during the team clash you will usually lose yourself amidst the fancy special effects and it's really hard to differentiate between friend and foe, and on some cases, you dunno which one is you lol. give yourself some time and you will get used to it.
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post Nov 20 2009, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(swks26 @ Nov 20 2009, 03:19 PM)
Hehehe. Umm when buying items, they say 'recommended'.. Is that recommended for the hero you're playing?
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yep. recommended items is unique with different heroes.
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post Nov 20 2009, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(choyster @ Nov 20 2009, 07:36 PM)
yes and pest does not have an active stun and a passive stun not to mention that pest is a str hero which contributes to his low hp gain  compared to scout . Last but not least pest has a -16 armor buff coupled with a shield breaker which makes his attacks uber weak and pestilence has an active skill which makes his ms 511 making him 1 of the slowest hero in the game.

With all the disadvantages stated above i must agree with you sire that scout is better than pest and will win a fight with pest. not to mention that scout contributes much more in a team fight compared to pest.
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post Nov 21 2009, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 21 2009, 06:19 PM)
scout can take almost any int hero out during mid - late
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hard to get tormentor down though. he can kill you without even needing to see you lol.
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post Nov 21 2009, 09:55 PM

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i hope everyone will stop picking scout so that i can have him for myself.
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post Nov 23 2009, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(KHOdin @ Nov 23 2009, 12:59 PM)
well lets bring back the scout out to fight nymph  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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last night i play scout and enemy got nymph.
i always target her wif kurossbow, vanish > chase her, and assassinate her. but after tat i got owned by her team full of disablers. when my frenz come too late ady lol but they will avenge me most of the times. when we didn't get wiped out. laugh.gif
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post Nov 23 2009, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(atok194 @ Nov 23 2009, 02:41 PM)
sigh...i hate playing with "NPC"..
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NPC?


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QUOTE(ZamAdaII @ Nov 23 2009, 01:53 PM)
Let's hope more heroes will come out soon. Can't wait to see the new Hellbourne's hero which look so cool. Is it Bone Clinkz? or the new HoN hero?
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i think the Forsaken Archer will be a new hero. but she looks so hawt wub.gif.
i is so sad when i see my beloved traxex is turned into a gender-confused spiderman.
this new hero seems yummeh.
YOU'RE MINE!!!!

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post Nov 23 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(KHOdin @ Nov 23 2009, 03:29 PM)
haha arachna man voice with boobs
i am more intresteing in the engineer biggrin.gif
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yeah lol.
hmm i wonder if they take ideas from the dota hero suggestion forum.
i think someone proposed an engineer-themed hero there who can repair towers and shit.
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post Nov 24 2009, 10:42 AM

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guys this just happen to hit me when ah wang asked lol.
does different orbs (or attack modifier in HoN) of a different kind (say, lifesteal and mana burn) stacks with each other? since in the description i think it said something like - this AM won't stack with another AM of the same kind, it will automatically choose the one with a higher value.

anybody know?
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post Nov 24 2009, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(KHOdin @ Nov 24 2009, 11:00 AM)
i tot life steal and mana burn is different type ? what i saw was shieldbreaker with arachna webshot and life steal freaking gay combo...
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yeah that's what i said.
so you does can stack many orbs huh?
nice nice.
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post Nov 24 2009, 11:35 AM

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scarey lol.
u guys think it's better than the dota orb system?
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post Nov 24 2009, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(YooNJuN @ Nov 24 2009, 11:39 AM)
There is 2 kind of modifier in HoN : Attack Modifier or Exclusive Modifier .
Its simple , Attack Modifier doesnt stack with other Attack Modifier , Exclusive Modifier doesnt stack with the same Exclusive Modifier .

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superb!
just the thing i needed.
thanks mate.
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post Nov 24 2009, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(KHOdin @ Nov 24 2009, 01:11 PM)
btw do u guys usually play EM or non EM game ?


Added on November 24, 2009, 1:12 pmerm usually instant i were send severals they got it instantly
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i prefer EM as it's faster paced but i don't mind normal mode either.

err can you really invite other ppl even if you didn't prepurchase?

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