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post Oct 5 2009, 01:50 AM

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My oh my.. This discussion is really.... OUT OF THIS WORLD!! XD

Am reading every posts, really enlightening! Now this is what i'd call a nice discussion XD

QUOTE(bgeh @ Sep 6 2009, 04:58 PM)
2) Gravity is an attractive force, and will attract mass. Light, although it has no mass, will also be 'pulled' by gravity [kinda lazy to explain technically why]

6) Depends. The black hole might have an extremely high momentum relative to Earth, and just gets shot out of the planet relatively quickly, and perhaps the Solar System in due time. If Hawking's prediction is right, then the black hole will evaporate in the LHC, and he'll probably end up with a Physics Nobel Prize. If however, Hawking is wrong, and the black hole stays in the LHC and continues accumulating mass [the black hole in the LHC, if created, will be extremely small, and have quite low gravitational attraction], we're all screwed!

It is quite probable though that it would be possible to eject the black hole out of the Solar System relatively quickly, but frankly the likelihood of a black hole being created and then swallowing us all is bloody bloody small.
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2) I'm interested to know how it works. But i'm not well learned in astrology. Will i be able to understand it?

6) wat's LHC?

QUOTE(convivencia @ Sep 17 2009, 06:13 PM)
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black hole is like a mouth

it sucks in everything

and at the other end (not yr normal 3D thingy) it spouted out stuffs, like the anus

in creating new universe in new dimension

never forget that when our universe was first formed, it had more than 45 dimensions, now we can detect 4 of it and can theorize 3 others, for a total of 7
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45 dimensions!? But.. Like... How...?
oh my... My mind can't process all these information... @@
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post Oct 5 2009, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(nobunaga84 @ Oct 5 2009, 01:01 PM)
1st of all, in science, this is called astrophysics, not astrology. astrology is more to the horoscope prediction etc... that's still not a branch of science. for the science of observation on the stars etc, that's astronomy, for the science to learn about the birth of universe etc or in precise word learn the universe as a whole, that's called cosmology. each of this still have their branches, like quantum cosmology etc.


Added on October 5, 2009, 1:08 pm

about the extra dimensions, u can read string theory. string theory as one of the popular approach to the quantum gravity require extra dimension to support its consistency. in supergravity we need 13(if i'm not mistaken) dimension in total, in M theory we need 11 dimensions, in brane localized gravity we need 5 dimensions. in the theory of extra dimensions, all the extra dimensions out of our ordinary 4 dimensions is compactified(e.g. like Calabi-Yau manifolds).

anyway, in another popular approach to quantum gravity, loop quantum gravity we doesn't require extra dimension.
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ooops. my bad ><
I've alot of questions in my mind, can't phrase it out..
Perhaps it'd help if i do some reading on my own first.
Thanks smile.gif

QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Oct 5 2009, 01:21 PM)
-how it occurs when a star blows up
when a star explodes, it will expand at unimaginable rate to mind blowing sizes.... and when it reach max point, it`ll bounce back... take a spring for example... when u toss it, it will elongate till a point and it`ll bouce back... at that point, the star contracts at the same rate it expand to very dense "rock" some rock turn out to be white dwaf; some become dead star; some become black hole...
Yeah that's the way i remembered too, read something about it quite long ago


-what's INSIDE a black hole.
still debating by the scientist... but theoretically, it is said a "white hole" that "vomit" everything out could be connected with black hole and form worm hole.. this worm hole could be used as teleportation and time travel
XD hahaha. That'd be awesome! It's like the wormhole in the Pinball Game in Windows

-also what to do if the LHC makes a black hole in northern Europe
only god knows why... bon jovi  doh.gif
Eh? i thought it's sung by Kid Rock? tongue.gif
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post Oct 5 2009, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Oct 5 2009, 04:25 PM)
no.. you don`t have to read.. I bought the book.. i read it half way and discover the "movie" version of string theory with teh same author in the documentary explaning in words sweat.gif

you can watch it in you tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7FV9aaiwKQ

got few parts  thumbup.gif
ever since as a child, I was facinated by the vastness and mystery of deep space...
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Oh. Thanks XD
I'm gonna load the youtube vid now. thanks alot!

I was just as fascinated. However as i grew older, with parents and realistic factors coming in (such as the prospect of studying about space), made me not wanting to go any further in. :/

But oh well, it still stirs up my mind of how much of things we have yet to know/discover/understand. That feeling, is just so awesome.. XD
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post Oct 8 2009, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Oct 8 2009, 11:39 AM)
that radius is the radius of event horizon....

there was this simple explanation... density=mass/volume....

when star contract after big bang, it contract to the rate reaching 0 but never will hit zero... so, let us assume the rate as 0

therefore, density=mass(which is star mass)/0= infinity....

when a star is said to hit infinite density, i`ll form a gravitational well so steep that not even light can escape, and the boundary of non return is called event horizon.. and put in number, called Schwarzchild Radiussssss........
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Oh.

But er, the extra 's' in the radius, it's the exact name of the theory is it? XD

 

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