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TSeleshoe
post Sep 4 2009, 03:57 PM, updated 17y ago

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post Sep 4 2009, 03:58 PM

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same like ps3 holding back gta4
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post Sep 4 2009, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(eleshoe @ Sep 4 2009, 03:57 PM)
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oh really? try telling that to 1st party developers like Naughty Dog and they will tell you to shove that crapbox up your candya$$!!!!!!!

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post Sep 4 2009, 04:11 PM

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So it's confirmed that FF13 on X360 will come in 4 DVD discs? hmm.gif
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post Sep 4 2009, 04:13 PM

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"Hi-Def standard blu-ray."

I stopped there.. a person who doesn't know the difference between media & resolution is laughable
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post Sep 4 2009, 04:14 PM

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I personally feels that the PS3 has just a little more horsepower to spare if compared to the 360. No doubt the CELL BE is technically much more superior to the 360 CPU but the PS3 RSX graphics is somewhat equivalent to the 360's ATI XENO.

So in term of eye candy, these 2 system are quite the same.
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post Sep 4 2009, 04:21 PM

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tl;dr
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post Sep 4 2009, 04:35 PM

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post Sep 4 2009, 05:19 PM

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actually both consoles are the same la.. i don't see any huge graphic quality on ps3 vs the xbox.. Both of them are totally looks the same. I own 2 consoles btw. So that i don't miss out exclusive titles. haha

I was expecting huge quality difference of BluRay games compare with DVD. So far all the games i played, BOTH XBOX and PS3 QUALITY ARE THE SAME! Both also i played on 1080P. So conclusion is, personally i feel those fanboy who criticize about each other are bias.. haha

Now im thinking, why should i buy BR games, when else i can get it on 1 DVD which cost cheaper rite? unless games like FF13 of cos its more worth to buy BR.
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post Sep 4 2009, 05:20 PM

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I beg your pardon but what's tl;dr?
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post Sep 4 2009, 05:23 PM

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Are the differences between hardware just affecting graphic quality only?

I mean, okay, BluRay discs can hold a LOT more info in one go, which means it should be able to hold a lot more information uncompressed (textures, sound clips, etc) which should translate into better loading speeds.

Note that the above paragraph is just a theory. I don't know whether it works out like that in real life.

What other differences are there from a technical standpoint?
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post Sep 4 2009, 05:35 PM

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maybe ps3 will load abit faster la and less risk of having hardware problem (which i feel it depends on your luck. i use my xbox 3 years+ till today still kicking).. and more functions like watching bluray and stuff.. but Gaming graphic and texture wise, NO DIFFERENCE! what ps3 can do Xbox oso can do at a cheaper price! for me, I will buy Xbox games if that game are multiplatform. I will buy PS3 games, if its exclusive like mgs4, gow3 games like that... i rather be a smart consumer then a fanboy..

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QUOTE(pelvin @ Sep 4 2009, 05:35 PM)
maybe ps3 will load abit faster la and less risk of having hardware problem (which i feel it  depends on your luck. i use my xbox 3 years+ till today still kicking).. and more functions like watching bluray and stuff.. but Gaming graphic and texture wise, NO DIFFERENCE! what ps3 can do Xbox oso can do at a cheaper price! for me, I will buy Xbox games if that game are multiplatform. I will buy PS3 games, if its exclusive like mgs4, gow3 games like that... i rather be a smart consumer then a fanboy..
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post Sep 4 2009, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Sep 4 2009, 04:14 PM)
I personally feels that the PS3 has just a little more horsepower to spare if compared to the 360. No doubt the CELL BE is technically  much more superior to the 360 CPU but the PS3 RSX graphics is somewhat equivalent to the 360's ATI XENO.

So in term of eye candy, these 2 system are quite the same.
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Actually, there were several sites that proved that the XENO renders objects faster than the RSX.

However, PS3 devs can push the bulk of the workload onto the Cell and let the RSX do nothing but render, while the XENO has to do some other work while rendering at the same time. So the amount of eye candy is probably mainly towards how much the dev want to give to the Cell and how much to give the RSX.

It has been proven that if used correctly, the PS3's architecture does have noticeably superior hardware, but third-party devs haven't shown much in this area. Most (the hardcore PS3-hating type) Xbots already claim that the 360 can run a game as advanced as Killzone 2. It may be true, but I doubt the 360 can run a game as graphically demanding as Killzone 2 without taking out it's awesome ragdoll physics. Even Crysis doesn't have comparable ragdolling.


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post Sep 5 2009, 01:44 PM

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For sure there is different in terms of graphics quality between PS3 and 360, just my little opinion.

For games which exists for both PS3 and 360, the developer for sure will provide the same (or at least the same) quality for both, they will not want either of the company say things like "Why you make better graphics for them but not for us!", so they will make identical experience for both consoles to avioid "not balance".

In other hand, exclusive games are different, take example Uncharted 2, this game is only specially make for PS3 (who doesn't know that), and the development are all focus on the power of Cell and make fully use of it's power, and dun forget also the bluray disc can hold much more data thus more detail.

And i believe i saw some news saying that the kind of quality in Uncharted 2 is not possible in 360.

That's why in my opinion, in terms of hardware, PS3 has advantage over 360 and because of this, if all game developers really want to make full use of the power of the Cell and bluray, better quality will be seen in PS3.

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post Sep 5 2009, 10:51 PM

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lets not forget xbox360 came out 1 year before ps3

1 year different of technology...

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nowadays its not about power its about which console sells games well id say currently now its xbox360 era, PS3 isnt king even if the hardware is powerfull, What happen to the previous xbox had so much raw power compared to the ps2 still it died coz not many developers supporting the hardware, brute power is nt enuf if there is no softwares to utilize it.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Sep 4 2009, 05:20 PM)
I beg your pardon but what's tl;dr?
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post Sep 6 2009, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Sep 6 2009, 02:29 AM)
Literally, "Too long; didn't read"
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post Sep 7 2009, 01:28 AM

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its true that xbox 360 games are more easy to develop
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post Sep 7 2009, 09:12 AM

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It's all about business.

PlayStation 3 may hold a better hardware than its rival 360, but in terms of ease-of-development wise, 360 tends to be the ideal platform.

Distributors just can't afford to have their developers to spend a great amount of extensive time, making the PlayStation 3 version of a game to look as good as 360's. They'll simply generalize the development with one-single engine; neglecting the platform that is somewhat not-development-friendly.

You guys may have already known this but, oh well, that's just me, wasting time at the office~
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the article from hiphopgamershow.com is sensationalized to attract eyeballs. not to mention that its also very poorly written. the writer clearly took the original post by david jefferies out of context, sinisterly inferring that since microsoft is 'compromising' on its graphic standards, it will be holding back the ps3.

if you guys actually take the time to read the original blog post here, you will realise that david jefferies was talking about the issue of image resolution vs. image quality, triggered by Microsoft to relaxed their rule that all games must be of 1280x720 resolution.

i wont go into details but you guys should read his post in its entirety. at no point did he mentioned anything about anything like the hiphopgamershow.com article suggested.

you guys should really take everything you read on the internet with a pinch of salt, especially from a site called hiphopgamershow.com. lol.

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post Sep 8 2009, 01:14 PM

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post Sep 24 2009, 09:50 PM

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Si peh sian la. yawn.gif Always there theory or idea to fuel the comparison argument. Which 1 powerful, cheaper, better looking, etc........... All this argument benefit absolutely nothing to player of both console. Here an idea, want ur console to be the sole winner? Totally ban any product by opposing company, boycott WINDOWS, Sony LCD TV, etc.......... thumbup.gif


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post Sep 24 2009, 10:23 PM

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post Oct 18 2009, 04:17 PM

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Heh. This writer of this article is just trying to make war of consoles between fans of both consoles shakehead.gif. Dun care if PS3 is not great. I still love my PS3..rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 20 2009, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(pelvin @ Sep 4 2009, 06:19 PM)
actually both consoles are the same la.. i don't see any huge graphic quality on ps3 vs the xbox.. Both of them are totally looks the same. I own 2 consoles btw. So that i don't miss out exclusive titles. haha

I was expecting huge quality difference of BluRay games compare with DVD. So far all the games i played, BOTH XBOX and PS3 QUALITY ARE THE SAME! Both also i played on 1080P. So conclusion is, personally i feel those fanboy who criticize about each other are bias.. haha

Now im thinking, why should i buy BR games, when else i can get it on 1 DVD which cost cheaper rite?  unless games like FF13 of cos its more worth to buy BR.
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I agree with you too...

See what ever DVD can fit in...why PS3 should use Blueray? And we pay more? Unless PS is smart enough to add in extra features...like soundtracks, making of the game, additional art work or anything extra...then I think people will go for PS3...of course there are games like uncharted 2 exclusive for ps3...but only 1 or 2 exclusive is not enough.


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QUOTE(alanmukkl @ Oct 20 2009, 09:01 PM)
I agree with you too...

See what ever DVD can fit in...why PS3 should use Blueray? And we pay more? Unless PS is smart enough to add in extra features...like soundtracks, making of the game, additional art work or anything extra...then I think people will go for PS3...of course there are games like uncharted 2 exclusive for ps3...but only 1 or 2 exclusive is not enough.
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those are 3rd party games u mean?

for 1st party games, they are indeed utilizing the storage advantage in bluray disc,

for 3rd party developers, they have to ensure the contents are the same for all platforms, otherwise ppl will say they are biased towards one platform only, plus there is also no reason for them to pour in extra contents for PS3 version, unless Sony paid them to do so.

pricing wise, Xbox 360 and PS3 multiplatform games are almost the same, of course if say pirated game then nothing to say lah

also take note that multiplayer on xbox needs $$, PSN is FOC.

 

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