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post Sep 4 2009, 10:54 AM, updated 17y ago

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Added on September 4, 2009, 11:05 amThis is so gonna fail.
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post Sep 4 2009, 11:47 AM

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Nevermind let we all try this. Now at office, cannot focus.
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post Sep 4 2009, 12:02 PM

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I started wearing a belt (not your typical leather weightlifting belt but rather the "softer" one meant to protect your lower back during normal non-workout times) and I actually like it.

I get this really comfortable feeling because I'm able to lift without feeling any lower back pain. Also, I feel like I could lift heavier weights. However, once removed, the sharp pain comes again. Now even the end of my coccyx hurts.

This makes me wonder if I'd hurt myself even more while toying with weights a lil' too heavy for me just because I felt like I could do it (no thanks to the belt). sad.gif

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post Sep 4 2009, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Sep 4 2009, 12:02 PM)
I started wearing a belt (not your typical leather weightlifting belt but rather the "softer" one meant to protect your lower back during normal non-workout times) and I actually like it.

I get this really comfortable feeling because I'm able to lift without feeling any lower back pain. Also, I feel like I could lift heavier weights. However, once removed, the sharp pain comes again. Now even the end of my coccyx hurts.

This makes me wonder if I'd hurt myself even more while toying with weights a lil' too heavy for me just because I felt like I could do it (no thanks to the belt). sad.gif
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I'm actually laughing at your msg because I've this picture of your coccyx from the front and....oh well, never mind.

How tight are you wearing your belt? I've noticed, when it's too tight, you tend to have a fake confidence feeling and may use bad form.

Personal opinion, (with no studies about you done) is that you may be doing that. Using bad form because of overloading confidence. Try loosening it a bit.

For me, I use the belt, and put it slightly higher, because it tends to let my body activate the lats a little more? In my sport, the lats play a major role in keeping the position steady, so that' why I use it. Also it distributes the load more evenly which is great.

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Yeah wearing it tight makes me feel like I could push more weights or at least push a few more reps with normal weights.

Guess that's how I hurt myself. Thanks. Will wear it higher and more loosely. smile.gif
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i read alot about that Green tea lower collestrol level...is it? anybody got info about it?
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post Sep 5 2009, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(bebeq @ Sep 4 2009, 11:53 PM)
i read alot about that Green tea lower collestrol level...is it? anybody got info about it?
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Let me look.

Im sure there are research papers about this on pubmed, but I'm absolutely uninterested with that at the moment.
All I need, is something that will help me snatch 110KG and cnj 130KG. HEh....


Added on September 5, 2009, 12:24 amI've something else though.

From the Journal of the International Society of Sport Nutrition
Examination of a pre-exercise high energy drink on exercise performanceJay R
Hoffman , Mattan W Hoffman and Christopher TranchinaDepartment of Health and
Exercise Science, The College of New Jersey, Ewing, NJ 08628-0718, USA author
email corresponding author email
from 2008 International Society of Sports Nutrition Conference and Expo
Las Vegas, NV, USA. 9–10 June 2008Journal of the International Society of
Sports Nutrition 2008,
5(Suppl 1):P29doi:10.1186/1550-2783-5-S1-P29The electronic version of this
abstract is the complete one and can be found online at:
http://www.jissn.com/content/5/S1/P29

Published:
17 September 2008

purpose of this study was to examine the effect of a pre-exercise high
energy drink on reaction time and anaerobic power in competitive
strength/power athletes. In addition, the effect of the pre-exercise
drink on subjective feelings of energy, fatigue, alertness and focus
was also explored.MethodsTwelve
male strength/power athletes (21.1 ± 1.3 y; 179.8 ± 7.1 cm; 88.6 ± 12.1
kg; 17.6 ± 3.3% body fat) underwent two testing sessions administered
in a randomized and double-blind fashion. During each session, subjects
reported to the Human Performance Laboratory and were provided either
120 ml of a high energy drink (S), commercially marketed as Redline® or
120 ml of a placebo (P). The placebo was similar in taste and
appearance but contained no active ingredients. Following consumption
of the supplement or placebo subjects rested quietly for 10-minutes
prior to completing a 4-question survey and commencing exercise. The
survey consisted of 4 questions asking each subject to describe their
feelings of energy, fatigue, alertness and focus at that moment.
Following the completion of the questionnaire subjects performed a
2-minute quickness and reaction test on the Makoto testing device
(Makoto USA, Centennial CO) and a 20-second Wingate Anaerobic Power
test. Following a 10-minute rest subjects repeated the testing sequence
and after a similar rest period a third and final testing sequence was
performed. The Makoto testing device consisted of subjects reacting to
both a visual and auditory stimulus and striking one out of 30
potential targets on three towers.ResultsSignificant
difference in reaction performance was seen between S and P in both
average number of targets struck (55.8 ± 7.4 versus 51.9 ± 7.4,
respectively) and percent of targets struck (71.9 ± 10.5% versus 66.8 ±
10.9%, respectively). No significant differences between trials were
seen in any anaerobic power measure. Subjective feelings of energy (3.5
± 0.5 versus 3.1 ± 0.5) and focus (3.8 ± 0.5 versus 3.3 ± 0.7) were
significantly higher during S compared to P, respectively. In addition,
trends towards an increased alertness (p = 0.088) and a decreased
fatigue (p = 0.091) were also seen in S compared to P.

ConclusionResults
indicate a significant increase in reaction performance during
exercise, with no effect on anaerobic power performance. In addition,
ingestion of this supplement significantly improves subjective feelings
of focus and energy.
I think coffee will accomplish the same thing as this drink and coffee will
improve anaerobic performance and is more cost effective.
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 - Kahlil Gibran
W.G. JohnsonUbermensch Sports ConsultancySan Diego, CA


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post Sep 5 2009, 12:46 AM

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pizzaboy i hope u do alot cardio since u wan to go 130 kg...don u feel hard to breathe?

and tnx for info
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I don't understand the Losing Fat portion of the article pinned. BB'ers routinely cut to lose body fat while maintaining muscle mass. And the recipe for normal range fat loss [not extreme competitive fat loss] is very well known -- why is that guy even trying to re-invent something that is simple and has worked millions of times for millions of people?

I have been on a cut for 6 weeks and my abs have made a reappearance. At least the top 4 of them. So I know the usual prescription works, at least for me.

Yawn.

1. Eat 500 kcal below maintenance. I gauge this by benchmarking with what I used to eat, and feeling a bit hungry between meals.

2. Continue lifting heavy weights to maintain if not augment muscle mass.

3. Do HIIT to jack up the metabolism.

4. Consume lots of protein to avoid muscle liquidation. Cut the carbs, not the protein.

Does it get any simpler? It works. And this same advice is all over bb.com.
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QUOTE(bebeq @ Sep 5 2009, 12:46 AM)
pizzaboy i hope u do alot cardio since u wan to go 130 kg...don u feel hard to breathe?

  and tnx for info
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130kg CnJ, not bodyweight. doh.gif
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Actually, if you lift weights 3X a week, you don't even need HIIT to up your metabolism. I should just have trusted Rippetoe. He said gaining muscle is difficult while losing fat is easy. And it really is so.


Added on September 5, 2009, 1:28 amAnd it's CRUCIAL to drive home the point that HIIT is not cardio. I avoided HIIT for many months because I thought it was cardio, and I hated cardio. 30 mins of heart pumping and general torture doing something absolutely boring like stationary bicycling -- who invented that shit anyway?

HIIT is totally different, it's fun, it's easy. You can HIIT running, swimming, cycling, whatever. It's not torture.


Added on September 5, 2009, 1:31 amAnd the whole idea of HIIT is not to burn calories. Exercise is very inefficient at burning calories. HIIT is metabolic conditioning. You burn calories by not eating calories.

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QUOTE(bebeq @ Sep 5 2009, 12:46 AM)
pizzaboy i hope u do alot cardio since u wan to go 130 kg...don u feel hard to breathe?

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I want to clean and jerk beyond Naim Suley's CNJ record.
It's not that I WEIGH 130KG. I weigh 77KG.

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I don't think he's talking about specific fat loss. I think he's probably talking about those people whom aren't already training.

Notice his article said about, increasing activity throughout the day. Increasing resistance. Adding muscle mass, losing fat. He's talking about those people who have a hard time already trying to move around, what more spend 1 hour on a elliptical (which you guys shouldn't either) machine.

Oh btw, it can get simpler trust me. Squat 4x a week, every single day to a daily 1RM, drop 10-20% and do select between 4-8 on the set ranges and 1-8 on the rep ranges. Then end every single workout with 10 minutes of plyos or running. It usually burns your bodyfat like a furnace.

 

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