I couldn't concur more to your statement but no one seem to see it the same light as you and I do . They choose to worry bout minutia stuffs, so what if the caliper shows you are at 17.12345% BF. If you can't see your abs, you aren't lean enough (I am aware that abs are not the epitome of a strong muscular physique)

try PM reyzai...he's selling nutrex product...maybe he can explain the details on the differences ??

but if you ain't planning to cut, try look for pump supps...such as white flood or superpump 250...

have increased my weight for squat - 40kg for both sites
and chest press - 30kg

hate doing squat at different centres cz they have different bars, so when i am used to a bar at A place, doing it at B place, wil stil hurt my back (bone ard neck area).

well to be honest, kepong is even cheaper, half price to be exact...and not bounded to any sort of package... but.. i don't go for massages, my mom does... and she commented its much better than sri hartamas's.

What does the middle box say? Decrease <????> each week for 10-12 weeks.

The strength gains will come. Strength is secondary for bb'ers, hypertrophy first.

A lot to explain but lemme put it in a nutshell. The strength - hypertrophy curve is not always linear. Compare physiques of trainees here on bb oriented and powerlifting oriented programs. We focus on contraction, isolation of the muscles and going by feel when training, not how heavy the weight is.

i thought powerlifting is a different thing altogether?
u can post whatever questions in the powerlifting thread bro


what darkie is saying, use your guts and common sense when u do your weights
there's no right or wrong cuz i always think its all crap when someone says "the only to get big / strong etc etc is to do xxx kind of way of training..." unless of course such things are common and obvious
different people different orientation and focus
i believe, just like what darkie said in bb thread v3 or v4 that there is no absolution in bb'ing
unless ur talking about powerlifting cuz i have no idea how to start on that cuz its a different thing dah
pizza is the best resource guy

I'd be interested in finding out how many people actually use good form during their lifts (regardless of where you stand on the hi/low reps/weight/etc.).